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I'm a little confused over whether or not she got to go to space via lottery, and what that means. Several of the articles I've seen mention some sort of "lottery," but I can't seem to find what that actually entailed, or whether it was more of a competition. -- NeuronExMachina 17:28, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
It is such a shame that this article does not have a photo of Helen Sharman. Can someone add it? - Pernambuco 03:29, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Helen Sharman is listed in the article List of Ashkenazi Jews. I don't see any reference for this elsewhere - including her book, where she does not discuss religion. Hektor 11:13, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
I've made two or three attempts to correct the error in this article where it incorrectly states that Sharman lit the flame at the 1991 Universiade. Someone has rather sniffily reverted the edits, noting the article "conforms to known sources". Whatever sources these are, are wrong. I was a student at the time and witnessed the opening ceremony personally. Miss Sharman was indeed selected to light the flame, and was carrying the torch through the crowd towards the flame when she rather embarrassingly tripped over her own feet and dropped the torch on the floor, spilling the flammable parts on the carpet. There ensued some seconds of flapping before she was directed by an official to continue on her way with the now non-burning torch. When she reached the main torch, she simply waved the stump of her hand-torch at it, and it was lit, as it was always going to be, automatically by an electrical ignition system. The event was cringingly embarrassing for all present and certainly impossible to forget for anyone who saw it personally. Since several thousand people were present, and several hundred thousand at least saw the event on television, corroboration should not be difficult to establish. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.153.191.255 ( talk • contribs) .
Some observations: 1. The Guardian article is, therefore, also wrong. She was present, and the flame lit - that's all. She was not carrying a viable source of ignition when she reached the torch because she had dropped and smashed it. The flame was ignited, as it was apparently always going to anyway, by an electrical ignition system similar to that found on cookers. 2. I did do a search for any corroborative article, but since the Universiade occurred well before pervasive internet news, I was not able to find anything. You were. Well done you. 3. Eyewitness reports are inferior to inaccurate online sources? OK. Whatever. I will adjust my assessment of Wikipedia article accuracy accordingly in future. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.188.147.38 ( talk • contribs).
I have added one word, "formally," which allows for Sharman to have performed the ceremony of appearing to light the flame, although her torch did in fact go out. As mentioned, the flame was ignited by other means anyway, and Sharman's role in lighting it was only ever going to be ceremonial. SpaceHistory101 ( talk) 18:08, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, let's try "officially" instead. And I am more than happy to discuss, and be reverted - but please, without the sarcasm ("casually?") would be helpful. We're all trying to do the same thing, make this page more accurate. Thank you. SpaceHistory101 ( talk) 03:10, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Sharman is from the west, which tends to call their spacefarers "astronauts." However, those who flew / fly in the Soviet / Russian program, as Sharman did, are called "cosmonauts." Would it not be more accurate to call her the latter? Currently, she is called the former on this page. SpaceHistory101 ( talk) 18:04, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Very true - good point - thanks. SpaceHistory101 ( talk) 03:55, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
"In 2013, the UK Space Agency released statements describing Tim Peake - who travelled to the International Space Station in 2015 - as the UK's first official astronaut, seemingly forgetting Sharman's own trip into space." 122.57.123.239 ( talk) 23:10, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
Anyone who flies aboard a Russian or Soviet launch vehicle, or aboard Mir is a cosmonaut. They might also be an astronaut though. -- 65.92.246.142 ( talk) 10:31, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
The 13:04, 12 January 2011 194.81.239.9 version of this article is translated into Chinese Wikipedia.-- Wing ( talk) 20:56, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Generally was awarded to those who flew as a cosmonaut even if not a soviet national. Does anyone if she was given this honour? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.40.4.248 ( talk) 01:57, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Can users please desist from removing her from English categories. She is from Yorkshire originally.-- MacRùsgail ( talk) 15:45, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
As someone with a Doctorate, it is the norm in the UK to title someone withe prefix 'Dr'. I will add that. -- Nozzer71 ( talk) 07:37, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
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I'm a little confused over whether or not she got to go to space via lottery, and what that means. Several of the articles I've seen mention some sort of "lottery," but I can't seem to find what that actually entailed, or whether it was more of a competition. -- NeuronExMachina 17:28, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
It is such a shame that this article does not have a photo of Helen Sharman. Can someone add it? - Pernambuco 03:29, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Helen Sharman is listed in the article List of Ashkenazi Jews. I don't see any reference for this elsewhere - including her book, where she does not discuss religion. Hektor 11:13, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
I've made two or three attempts to correct the error in this article where it incorrectly states that Sharman lit the flame at the 1991 Universiade. Someone has rather sniffily reverted the edits, noting the article "conforms to known sources". Whatever sources these are, are wrong. I was a student at the time and witnessed the opening ceremony personally. Miss Sharman was indeed selected to light the flame, and was carrying the torch through the crowd towards the flame when she rather embarrassingly tripped over her own feet and dropped the torch on the floor, spilling the flammable parts on the carpet. There ensued some seconds of flapping before she was directed by an official to continue on her way with the now non-burning torch. When she reached the main torch, she simply waved the stump of her hand-torch at it, and it was lit, as it was always going to be, automatically by an electrical ignition system. The event was cringingly embarrassing for all present and certainly impossible to forget for anyone who saw it personally. Since several thousand people were present, and several hundred thousand at least saw the event on television, corroboration should not be difficult to establish. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.153.191.255 ( talk • contribs) .
Some observations: 1. The Guardian article is, therefore, also wrong. She was present, and the flame lit - that's all. She was not carrying a viable source of ignition when she reached the torch because she had dropped and smashed it. The flame was ignited, as it was apparently always going to anyway, by an electrical ignition system similar to that found on cookers. 2. I did do a search for any corroborative article, but since the Universiade occurred well before pervasive internet news, I was not able to find anything. You were. Well done you. 3. Eyewitness reports are inferior to inaccurate online sources? OK. Whatever. I will adjust my assessment of Wikipedia article accuracy accordingly in future. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.188.147.38 ( talk • contribs).
I have added one word, "formally," which allows for Sharman to have performed the ceremony of appearing to light the flame, although her torch did in fact go out. As mentioned, the flame was ignited by other means anyway, and Sharman's role in lighting it was only ever going to be ceremonial. SpaceHistory101 ( talk) 18:08, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, let's try "officially" instead. And I am more than happy to discuss, and be reverted - but please, without the sarcasm ("casually?") would be helpful. We're all trying to do the same thing, make this page more accurate. Thank you. SpaceHistory101 ( talk) 03:10, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Sharman is from the west, which tends to call their spacefarers "astronauts." However, those who flew / fly in the Soviet / Russian program, as Sharman did, are called "cosmonauts." Would it not be more accurate to call her the latter? Currently, she is called the former on this page. SpaceHistory101 ( talk) 18:04, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Very true - good point - thanks. SpaceHistory101 ( talk) 03:55, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
"In 2013, the UK Space Agency released statements describing Tim Peake - who travelled to the International Space Station in 2015 - as the UK's first official astronaut, seemingly forgetting Sharman's own trip into space." 122.57.123.239 ( talk) 23:10, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
Anyone who flies aboard a Russian or Soviet launch vehicle, or aboard Mir is a cosmonaut. They might also be an astronaut though. -- 65.92.246.142 ( talk) 10:31, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
The 13:04, 12 January 2011 194.81.239.9 version of this article is translated into Chinese Wikipedia.-- Wing ( talk) 20:56, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Generally was awarded to those who flew as a cosmonaut even if not a soviet national. Does anyone if she was given this honour? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.40.4.248 ( talk) 01:57, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Can users please desist from removing her from English categories. She is from Yorkshire originally.-- MacRùsgail ( talk) 15:45, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
As someone with a Doctorate, it is the norm in the UK to title someone withe prefix 'Dr'. I will add that. -- Nozzer71 ( talk) 07:37, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
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