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A fact from Helen Hope appeared on Wikipedia's
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Did you know... that in the 1700s, Helen Hope turned a Scottish moor into a wood and named it after her eldest son?
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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... that in the 1700s, Helen Hope created a wood (pictured) and named it after her eldest son? Source: "In 1700 they moved to the earl's family home of Tyninghame House [...] As soon as that was done, Helen announced that she would like to enclose the Muir of Tyninghame, a piece of rough ground [...] Helen then renamed the area Binning Wood in honour of her ten-year-old elder son, who shared her enthusiasm for planting." - "Hope, Helen, countess of Haddington". Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (online ed.). Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/70532
ALT1:... that in the 1700s, Helen Hope turned a Scottish moor into a wood (pictured) and named it after her eldest son? Source: "In 1700 they moved to the earl's family home of Tyninghame House [...] As soon as that was done, Helen announced that she would like to enclose the Muir of Tyninghame, a piece of rough ground [...] Helen then renamed the area Binning Wood in honour of her ten-year-old elder son, who shared her enthusiasm for planting." - "Hope, Helen, countess of Haddington". Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (online ed.). Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/70532
Hi
Mujinga, review follows: article moved to mainspace 25 July; article exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I found no copyright violation from the main ODNB source; A QPQ has been carried out; image is free, but I don't think it adds much value here; I think more interest on the hooks would be added if we give an indication of date, could we add "18th-century" or similar? Hook facts generally check out but I could find no mention in the source that the
Tyninghame estate that was planted was previously moorland? I also noted that the ODNB lists her husband's book as Treatise on the manner of raising forest trees (1761) while you have it as a Short Treatise on Forest Trees (1756)? -
Dumelow (
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10:04, 31 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Hi Dumelow thanks for the review. Yes I agree the picture isn't particularly inspiring :)
Muir is Scottish for moorland, so it is mentioned as "Muir of Tyninghame". Good spot on the book title, i got my sources in a tangle there, now fixed - both titles are correct since it was re-issued under a different name and I've added that info. I've added 1700s to the hooks and that made me think of another one, listed below
Mujinga (
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13:10, 3 August 2020 (UTC)reply
ALT2:... that in the 1700s, Helen Hope created a wood named after her eldest son and it is still there today?
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A fact from Helen Hope appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 16 August 2020 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that in the 1700s, Helen Hope turned a Scottish moor into a wood and named it after her eldest son?
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
... that in the 1700s, Helen Hope created a wood (pictured) and named it after her eldest son? Source: "In 1700 they moved to the earl's family home of Tyninghame House [...] As soon as that was done, Helen announced that she would like to enclose the Muir of Tyninghame, a piece of rough ground [...] Helen then renamed the area Binning Wood in honour of her ten-year-old elder son, who shared her enthusiasm for planting." - "Hope, Helen, countess of Haddington". Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (online ed.). Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/70532
ALT1:... that in the 1700s, Helen Hope turned a Scottish moor into a wood (pictured) and named it after her eldest son? Source: "In 1700 they moved to the earl's family home of Tyninghame House [...] As soon as that was done, Helen announced that she would like to enclose the Muir of Tyninghame, a piece of rough ground [...] Helen then renamed the area Binning Wood in honour of her ten-year-old elder son, who shared her enthusiasm for planting." - "Hope, Helen, countess of Haddington". Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (online ed.). Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/70532
Hi
Mujinga, review follows: article moved to mainspace 25 July; article exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I found no copyright violation from the main ODNB source; A QPQ has been carried out; image is free, but I don't think it adds much value here; I think more interest on the hooks would be added if we give an indication of date, could we add "18th-century" or similar? Hook facts generally check out but I could find no mention in the source that the
Tyninghame estate that was planted was previously moorland? I also noted that the ODNB lists her husband's book as Treatise on the manner of raising forest trees (1761) while you have it as a Short Treatise on Forest Trees (1756)? -
Dumelow (
talk)
10:04, 31 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Hi Dumelow thanks for the review. Yes I agree the picture isn't particularly inspiring :)
Muir is Scottish for moorland, so it is mentioned as "Muir of Tyninghame". Good spot on the book title, i got my sources in a tangle there, now fixed - both titles are correct since it was re-issued under a different name and I've added that info. I've added 1700s to the hooks and that made me think of another one, listed below
Mujinga (
talk)
13:10, 3 August 2020 (UTC)reply
ALT2:... that in the 1700s, Helen Hope created a wood named after her eldest son and it is still there today?