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This is ridiculous, first you have to discuss the topics in their own talk page, contact the contributers of them, etc. You can't just do everything you feel like, first you tried to delete them all now you redirect them to here? Please stop. -- - K a s h Talk | email 21:19, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
The content is already the same. The Iranian metal article has in fact little content and is presented without much context. It is more suitable to capture its information here. Spearhead 21:48, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
..Iranian countries?! you mean Islamic? I oppose. What do you mean "without much context"? It's a country's music scene. It doesn't need to be part of anything. It should be expanded instead of merged. -- - K a s h Talk | email 21:58, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
They should definitely be merged. The scene itself is non-notable except that it is in an Islamic nation which presents its own problem. marnues 02:19, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Merge. The movement is notable as a whole under the label of "in Islamic countries". + Johnson 07:43, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Where's the "Venezualian metal" page (125 bands according to metal archives)? Where's the "Belarus metal" page (109 bands according to metal archives)? Where's the "Puerto Rican metal" page (71 bands according to metal archives)? There aren't any such pages. There isn't even a page for countries better known for playing heavy metal such as Finland or Germany. There is therefore no reason to have an "Iranian metal" page, but we can get a good article if we merge it here, the issues faced by bands in Islamic countries are important and deserve an article. Individual countries is another matter. -- IronChris | (talk) 21:17, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Hey Deizio, if you read this, I think this time it calls for it. Kush, please see WP:CHILL. + Johnson 07:45, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
With much love to Spearhead and all fellow WP:HMM members, I propose that this page should be nominated for deletion. I appreciate the good, nay great faith that went into its creation, but it's an arbitrary grouping and an unnecessary compromise. If regional scenes are demonstrably individually notable, then excellent. If not, they should be deleted until such time that they make the grade. Non-notable, unrelated scenes in various countries cannot be combined to make a notable article, this is no more appropriate than Heavy metal in countries with large reserves of fresh water. WP:CHILL all the way. See the talk pages of constituent articles for thoughts on them... Deizio 20:43, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
"other nations without separation of church and government"? That sounds like the writer has an agenda to me, because it implies that if other religions were involved with government, such as Christianity (which was where the "separation" issue originated), the same bans would exist in those countries, and therefore attacks religion in general.
I wil admit that I'm coming round to the idea of inclusion for this. My reasons to delete it haven't really changed, but as a pragmatic approach to classifying wikipedia information it does make some sense. I'm not sure yet... but I'll be keeping an eye on the AfD and this page in the meantime. In any case, if there were truly some documented cases of arrests or other serious problems caused by playing or listening to metal music in countries whose Islamic countries, whose laws and customs are dictated by Islam, I'd be on board. Deizio 17:42, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Are 3 online articles from magazines reliable enough sources to justify the existance of this article? it seems like all they talk about is Malaysia rather than "Islamic countries" although those words are mentioned. Correct me please if I am wrong -- - K a s h Talk | email 22:54, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
I added an announcement in the wrong place...whoops. -- Eastlaw 05:30, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
I have a friend in malaysia who dresses liek something the hot topic threw up and she's the guitarist in an afi style hardcore punk band in Malaysia. Would that go in the topic despite that hardcore and metal are so different? Ic an ask her about the genre in malaysia if you like so we can get more info. -- Myahon 6:53, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
This article was nominated for deletion on 25 February 2009 (UTC). The result of the discussion was merge to Heavy Metal Music. |
This article was nominated for deletion on 2006 May 9. The result of the discussion was keep. |
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This is ridiculous, first you have to discuss the topics in their own talk page, contact the contributers of them, etc. You can't just do everything you feel like, first you tried to delete them all now you redirect them to here? Please stop. -- - K a s h Talk | email 21:19, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
The content is already the same. The Iranian metal article has in fact little content and is presented without much context. It is more suitable to capture its information here. Spearhead 21:48, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
..Iranian countries?! you mean Islamic? I oppose. What do you mean "without much context"? It's a country's music scene. It doesn't need to be part of anything. It should be expanded instead of merged. -- - K a s h Talk | email 21:58, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
They should definitely be merged. The scene itself is non-notable except that it is in an Islamic nation which presents its own problem. marnues 02:19, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Merge. The movement is notable as a whole under the label of "in Islamic countries". + Johnson 07:43, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Where's the "Venezualian metal" page (125 bands according to metal archives)? Where's the "Belarus metal" page (109 bands according to metal archives)? Where's the "Puerto Rican metal" page (71 bands according to metal archives)? There aren't any such pages. There isn't even a page for countries better known for playing heavy metal such as Finland or Germany. There is therefore no reason to have an "Iranian metal" page, but we can get a good article if we merge it here, the issues faced by bands in Islamic countries are important and deserve an article. Individual countries is another matter. -- IronChris | (talk) 21:17, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Hey Deizio, if you read this, I think this time it calls for it. Kush, please see WP:CHILL. + Johnson 07:45, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
With much love to Spearhead and all fellow WP:HMM members, I propose that this page should be nominated for deletion. I appreciate the good, nay great faith that went into its creation, but it's an arbitrary grouping and an unnecessary compromise. If regional scenes are demonstrably individually notable, then excellent. If not, they should be deleted until such time that they make the grade. Non-notable, unrelated scenes in various countries cannot be combined to make a notable article, this is no more appropriate than Heavy metal in countries with large reserves of fresh water. WP:CHILL all the way. See the talk pages of constituent articles for thoughts on them... Deizio 20:43, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
"other nations without separation of church and government"? That sounds like the writer has an agenda to me, because it implies that if other religions were involved with government, such as Christianity (which was where the "separation" issue originated), the same bans would exist in those countries, and therefore attacks religion in general.
I wil admit that I'm coming round to the idea of inclusion for this. My reasons to delete it haven't really changed, but as a pragmatic approach to classifying wikipedia information it does make some sense. I'm not sure yet... but I'll be keeping an eye on the AfD and this page in the meantime. In any case, if there were truly some documented cases of arrests or other serious problems caused by playing or listening to metal music in countries whose Islamic countries, whose laws and customs are dictated by Islam, I'd be on board. Deizio 17:42, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Are 3 online articles from magazines reliable enough sources to justify the existance of this article? it seems like all they talk about is Malaysia rather than "Islamic countries" although those words are mentioned. Correct me please if I am wrong -- - K a s h Talk | email 22:54, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
I added an announcement in the wrong place...whoops. -- Eastlaw 05:30, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
I have a friend in malaysia who dresses liek something the hot topic threw up and she's the guitarist in an afi style hardcore punk band in Malaysia. Would that go in the topic despite that hardcore and metal are so different? Ic an ask her about the genre in malaysia if you like so we can get more info. -- Myahon 6:53, 12 August 2006 (UTC)