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We seem to be going through another round of "let's change the genre".
Can anyone provide a definitive reference, (or failing that, a plausable explanation), of which genre(s) is/are appropriate?
Then, next time we have another round, we can say "rv - see talk page"
Candidates seem to be:
Opinions please. Pdfpdf ( talk) 04:43, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
I couldn't see what you were referring to but I see it now buried in the end of your post quote. Thanks for pointing out the error on the original page. I have corrected it. There is all kinds of discussion on several "term" pages that used to be incorrectly lumped as genres. All of these terms have been removed from genre lists n such and most have had any categories deleted that in some way made the reader think that the term meant some sort of distinct musical style or format. Like the previously mentioned British Invasion another one that pops to mind is "New Wave of British Heavy Metal". Again, a "term decrribing an era" and not an actual genre. "Classic rock" is another "classic" example. It is a radio format that frequently gets added incorrectly as a genre. Hope that helps. Anger22 ( Talk 2 22) 15:59, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
"Sweet Victory" by David Glenn Eisley (yeah, that song from SpongeBob) "Total Eclipse of the Heart" by Bonnie Tyler "WE Will Rock You" by Queen
Please, please listen. It really sounds like a unique genre!
OK! So the list now seems to be:
Any other opinions? Cheers,
Pdfpdf (
talk)
13:32, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Updated.
Pdfpdf (
talk)
14:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Updated again.
Pdfpdf (
talk)
16:59, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Please place Agree or Disgaree if you wish to place Arena Rock as a genre...
Agree If you listen to these songs. They really sound like a unique Genre. It's all about the loud drum banging, slow tempo, loud voices thing... Please vote agree!!! "Sweet Victory" by David Glenn Eisley (yeah, that song from SpongeBob) "Total Eclipse of the Heart" by Bonnie Tyler "WE Will Rock You" by Queen
I do not think that this band will ever be heavy metal. 121.97.138.6 ( talk)
But, how about Glam Metal? 121.97.138.6 ( talk) 08:30, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
OMG! There is so many types of rock! What type of Rock do you mean? Punk Rock? Funk Rock?
Dudes, there are so many types of rock!
121.97.106.87 (
talk)
13:42, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
I think you don't have to place just "rock" anymore. The other genres help classify what type of rock Heart is. 121.97.106.87 ( talk) 23:45, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Pop Metal- also known as Glam Metal!- if you won't place Heavy, maybe Glam a.k.a. Pop Metal The song called "Alone" is the closest song to Glam Metal... 121.97.138.6
Deleting content is vandalism and can get you blocked dude. Anger22 ( Talk 2 22) 23:27, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
the only problem would be deleting it. Anger22 ( Talk 2 22) 23:47, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Or, how about Glam Rock? They came from early 70's and had that Glam Rock Look 121.97.138.6
Ok, my opinion a while ago was to place Glam metal or Glam Rock.
Please cancel....
They can't Glam Rock
1. They didn't start out in the early 70s.
121.97.106.87 (
talk)
So does this mean we have consensus on:
Pdfpdf ( talk) 10:23, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
For those who state they were never heavy metal, I would strongly suggest you listen to songs from their 1985 Heart album such as If Looks Could Kill, Shell Shock and The Wolf. Those scream eighties metal. 67.182.31.229 ( talk) 03:27, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Quoting the legacy section: Among the groups who have recorded at their Bad Animals studio are R.E.M., Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden and Candlebox (all of whom have cited Heart as a major influence
Although I don't claim to be an expert on said bands ( although I'm a fan of all but candlebox) I don't recall any of these bands stating that they were influenced by heart ( although I do remember that Alice In Chains played a tribute to heart, so there's a little evidence for AiC's inclusion), also it shows that there is a citation needed.
I believe that it should be removed, however, I believe it should at the very least be disscussed first.
Also, if anyone can find source(s) to back this statement, then I don't see any reason it shouldn't continue to be there.
ps: I do not dispute the claim that these bands recorded at Bad Animals studio, I don't know, but if it turns out the statement of Heart's influencing these bands is untrue than it's pretty irrelevant.
Alternative Idiot ( talk) 23:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Near the start there's a line about the returning to Seattle after Carter granted the amnesty to draft evaders. It is not clear to me why that would have affected them. I didn't see anything about any of the male band members running the border, so why is that relevant? 70.52.184.19 ( talk) 04:41, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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We seem to be going through another round of "let's change the genre".
Can anyone provide a definitive reference, (or failing that, a plausable explanation), of which genre(s) is/are appropriate?
Then, next time we have another round, we can say "rv - see talk page"
Candidates seem to be:
Opinions please. Pdfpdf ( talk) 04:43, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
I couldn't see what you were referring to but I see it now buried in the end of your post quote. Thanks for pointing out the error on the original page. I have corrected it. There is all kinds of discussion on several "term" pages that used to be incorrectly lumped as genres. All of these terms have been removed from genre lists n such and most have had any categories deleted that in some way made the reader think that the term meant some sort of distinct musical style or format. Like the previously mentioned British Invasion another one that pops to mind is "New Wave of British Heavy Metal". Again, a "term decrribing an era" and not an actual genre. "Classic rock" is another "classic" example. It is a radio format that frequently gets added incorrectly as a genre. Hope that helps. Anger22 ( Talk 2 22) 15:59, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
"Sweet Victory" by David Glenn Eisley (yeah, that song from SpongeBob) "Total Eclipse of the Heart" by Bonnie Tyler "WE Will Rock You" by Queen
Please, please listen. It really sounds like a unique genre!
OK! So the list now seems to be:
Any other opinions? Cheers,
Pdfpdf (
talk)
13:32, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Updated.
Pdfpdf (
talk)
14:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Updated again.
Pdfpdf (
talk)
16:59, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Please place Agree or Disgaree if you wish to place Arena Rock as a genre...
Agree If you listen to these songs. They really sound like a unique Genre. It's all about the loud drum banging, slow tempo, loud voices thing... Please vote agree!!! "Sweet Victory" by David Glenn Eisley (yeah, that song from SpongeBob) "Total Eclipse of the Heart" by Bonnie Tyler "WE Will Rock You" by Queen
I do not think that this band will ever be heavy metal. 121.97.138.6 ( talk)
But, how about Glam Metal? 121.97.138.6 ( talk) 08:30, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
OMG! There is so many types of rock! What type of Rock do you mean? Punk Rock? Funk Rock?
Dudes, there are so many types of rock!
121.97.106.87 (
talk)
13:42, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
I think you don't have to place just "rock" anymore. The other genres help classify what type of rock Heart is. 121.97.106.87 ( talk) 23:45, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Pop Metal- also known as Glam Metal!- if you won't place Heavy, maybe Glam a.k.a. Pop Metal The song called "Alone" is the closest song to Glam Metal... 121.97.138.6
Deleting content is vandalism and can get you blocked dude. Anger22 ( Talk 2 22) 23:27, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
the only problem would be deleting it. Anger22 ( Talk 2 22) 23:47, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Or, how about Glam Rock? They came from early 70's and had that Glam Rock Look 121.97.138.6
Ok, my opinion a while ago was to place Glam metal or Glam Rock.
Please cancel....
They can't Glam Rock
1. They didn't start out in the early 70s.
121.97.106.87 (
talk)
So does this mean we have consensus on:
Pdfpdf ( talk) 10:23, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
For those who state they were never heavy metal, I would strongly suggest you listen to songs from their 1985 Heart album such as If Looks Could Kill, Shell Shock and The Wolf. Those scream eighties metal. 67.182.31.229 ( talk) 03:27, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Quoting the legacy section: Among the groups who have recorded at their Bad Animals studio are R.E.M., Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden and Candlebox (all of whom have cited Heart as a major influence
Although I don't claim to be an expert on said bands ( although I'm a fan of all but candlebox) I don't recall any of these bands stating that they were influenced by heart ( although I do remember that Alice In Chains played a tribute to heart, so there's a little evidence for AiC's inclusion), also it shows that there is a citation needed.
I believe that it should be removed, however, I believe it should at the very least be disscussed first.
Also, if anyone can find source(s) to back this statement, then I don't see any reason it shouldn't continue to be there.
ps: I do not dispute the claim that these bands recorded at Bad Animals studio, I don't know, but if it turns out the statement of Heart's influencing these bands is untrue than it's pretty irrelevant.
Alternative Idiot ( talk) 23:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Near the start there's a line about the returning to Seattle after Carter granted the amnesty to draft evaders. It is not clear to me why that would have affected them. I didn't see anything about any of the male band members running the border, so why is that relevant? 70.52.184.19 ( talk) 04:41, 8 July 2008 (UTC)