This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Hawzen in the Tigray War article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
![]() | This article was nominated for deletion on 9 November 2021. The result of the discussion was Procedural keep. |
![]() | This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
![]() | Text has been copied to or from this article; see the list below. The source pages now serve to
provide attribution for the content in the destination pages and must not be deleted as long as the copies exist. For attribution and to access older versions of the copied text, please see the history links below.
|
The proposal is to merge the four other articles into this one (November 2020 Hawzen massacre), with a proposed starting text being this version of 19:15, 20 November 2021 and renaming it to Hawzen in the Tigray War. The rename will technically start in the section below. It will probably be simpler to put most arguments and oppose/support in the rename section below, since the merge and rename only make sense if done together. Boud ( talk) 19:24, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved, with the understanding that the four other articles will be merged into this one. ( non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 19:52, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
November 2020 Hawzen massacre →
Hawzen in the Tigray War – There were five documented massacres, looting of the hospital by the EDF, and a rape camp set up by the ENDF; there are easily enough reliable sources for these events co-located in this small town in this war. There is a multiple merge proposal at
Talk:November 2020 Hawzen massacre#Merge and rename. I've
been bold and started the merge, since my guess is that it's likely to achieve consensus. See
this version of 19:15, 20 November 2021 for a proposed starting point for the merged/renamed article.
Boud (
talk) 19:24, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
Boud (
talk)
19:24, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
Would showing a photo of "ordinary life" in Hawzen be justified? I guess a "background" section to Hawzen might justify one of more of these pre-war photos, that were in the four merged articles for the individual massacres. The photos are:
Please restore one (or more) of these if consensus seems likely. Boud ( talk) 23:34, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
This article needs a thorough going-over. The five previous articles that were merged here were based on the self-published "Atlas" document on ResearchGate. There's no question that war crimes against civilians happened in Hawzen, but the sources mostly indicate occupation, rape camps, and the destruction of the hospital. There's one AP News article about 70 people killed. The rest of the alleged massacres (death counts, dates, etc.) in the section "Military events" remains unsourced. @ Boud: do you think you could give this a look-over since you're probably the editor most familiar with this topic? Platonk ( talk) 00:01, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Hawzen in the Tigray War article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
![]() | This article was nominated for deletion on 9 November 2021. The result of the discussion was Procedural keep. |
![]() | This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
![]() | Text has been copied to or from this article; see the list below. The source pages now serve to
provide attribution for the content in the destination pages and must not be deleted as long as the copies exist. For attribution and to access older versions of the copied text, please see the history links below.
|
The proposal is to merge the four other articles into this one (November 2020 Hawzen massacre), with a proposed starting text being this version of 19:15, 20 November 2021 and renaming it to Hawzen in the Tigray War. The rename will technically start in the section below. It will probably be simpler to put most arguments and oppose/support in the rename section below, since the merge and rename only make sense if done together. Boud ( talk) 19:24, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved, with the understanding that the four other articles will be merged into this one. ( non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 19:52, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
November 2020 Hawzen massacre →
Hawzen in the Tigray War – There were five documented massacres, looting of the hospital by the EDF, and a rape camp set up by the ENDF; there are easily enough reliable sources for these events co-located in this small town in this war. There is a multiple merge proposal at
Talk:November 2020 Hawzen massacre#Merge and rename. I've
been bold and started the merge, since my guess is that it's likely to achieve consensus. See
this version of 19:15, 20 November 2021 for a proposed starting point for the merged/renamed article.
Boud (
talk) 19:24, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
Boud (
talk)
19:24, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
Would showing a photo of "ordinary life" in Hawzen be justified? I guess a "background" section to Hawzen might justify one of more of these pre-war photos, that were in the four merged articles for the individual massacres. The photos are:
Please restore one (or more) of these if consensus seems likely. Boud ( talk) 23:34, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
This article needs a thorough going-over. The five previous articles that were merged here were based on the self-published "Atlas" document on ResearchGate. There's no question that war crimes against civilians happened in Hawzen, but the sources mostly indicate occupation, rape camps, and the destruction of the hospital. There's one AP News article about 70 people killed. The rest of the alleged massacres (death counts, dates, etc.) in the section "Military events" remains unsourced. @ Boud: do you think you could give this a look-over since you're probably the editor most familiar with this topic? Platonk ( talk) 00:01, 5 February 2022 (UTC)