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Hey @ Editor2020: I’m not entirely sure why you removed his names? It’s not unusual for deities to go by various names. CycoMa ( talk) 03:59, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Oops commented too soon. CycoMa ( talk) 04:00, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
@ Editor2020: I wouldn’t revert you or make any changes until you are done. So when you are done can you comment and tell me. CycoMa ( talk) 04:16, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
@ Editor2020: Okay you did a good job but, I’m not entirely sure why you removed the mention of him being documented in Egyptian records in 1900BC. CycoMa ( talk) 04:20, 25 September 2021 (UTC) Oh wait I looked the source for that claim and it didn’t say it like that. So you were right to remove it. CycoMa ( talk) 04:29, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
The form Hauron is used much more commonly in literature than Haurun, I think a move is warranted. HaniwaEnthusiast ( talk) 16:30, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
An anonymous user changed the phrasing of the paragraph regarding Na'aman's theory, so that now it makes it sound as if it is certain that the logogram discussed represents Anat. This edit strikes me as disruptive, as to my knowledge no new evidence has surfaced since, and while somewhat influential (relatively speaking), the theory is still just a theory. The edit also makes it sound as if the identity of the deity designated by the same logogram in texts from Emar was agreed upon, which is just blatantly untrue - this is only Day's proposal based on Na'aman's theory, it found no broader support as far as I know. HaniwaEnthusiast ( talk) 11:37, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
The article is not built logically, it mixes the chronological levels like there's no tomorrow. What can be read between the lines is that it's primarily a northern ("Asian") cult, which only later made it into Egypt, and just because Egypt is bigger & more popular are we fixated on it (not at all encyclopedic!). Thirdly, Phoenicians, good Canaanites as they were, took it with them around the Med.
If Egypt was just a later, secondary realm: shoudn't the article be titled Horon, which seams to be closer to the original Semitic name? Or does popularity (Egypt) take precedence over origin?
Any theory where it originated? Was it the Syrian coast, or specifically Ugarit? And did it possibly move southwards through Canaan, where the Hebrews picked it up? Or maybe it spread from Canaan in both directions, with Ugarit being a northernmost point? Might the Hyksos have established it in Egypt, or doesn't it fit chronologically? Or would this "itinerary" & chronology be altogether based on so little that it wouldn't be worth speculating? What I mean is: do scholars offer any such theories?
" Philistia": long gone in C2 BCE, why even mention Philistines at this stage? By now it's a known fact that they were absorbed into local culture, but can't the Horon worship have come to Jamnia only AFTER their disappearence as a distinct ethnos and culture by the late C5 BCE? Arminden ( talk) 10:49, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
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Hey @ Editor2020: I’m not entirely sure why you removed his names? It’s not unusual for deities to go by various names. CycoMa ( talk) 03:59, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Oops commented too soon. CycoMa ( talk) 04:00, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
@ Editor2020: I wouldn’t revert you or make any changes until you are done. So when you are done can you comment and tell me. CycoMa ( talk) 04:16, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
@ Editor2020: Okay you did a good job but, I’m not entirely sure why you removed the mention of him being documented in Egyptian records in 1900BC. CycoMa ( talk) 04:20, 25 September 2021 (UTC) Oh wait I looked the source for that claim and it didn’t say it like that. So you were right to remove it. CycoMa ( talk) 04:29, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
The form Hauron is used much more commonly in literature than Haurun, I think a move is warranted. HaniwaEnthusiast ( talk) 16:30, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
An anonymous user changed the phrasing of the paragraph regarding Na'aman's theory, so that now it makes it sound as if it is certain that the logogram discussed represents Anat. This edit strikes me as disruptive, as to my knowledge no new evidence has surfaced since, and while somewhat influential (relatively speaking), the theory is still just a theory. The edit also makes it sound as if the identity of the deity designated by the same logogram in texts from Emar was agreed upon, which is just blatantly untrue - this is only Day's proposal based on Na'aman's theory, it found no broader support as far as I know. HaniwaEnthusiast ( talk) 11:37, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
The article is not built logically, it mixes the chronological levels like there's no tomorrow. What can be read between the lines is that it's primarily a northern ("Asian") cult, which only later made it into Egypt, and just because Egypt is bigger & more popular are we fixated on it (not at all encyclopedic!). Thirdly, Phoenicians, good Canaanites as they were, took it with them around the Med.
If Egypt was just a later, secondary realm: shoudn't the article be titled Horon, which seams to be closer to the original Semitic name? Or does popularity (Egypt) take precedence over origin?
Any theory where it originated? Was it the Syrian coast, or specifically Ugarit? And did it possibly move southwards through Canaan, where the Hebrews picked it up? Or maybe it spread from Canaan in both directions, with Ugarit being a northernmost point? Might the Hyksos have established it in Egypt, or doesn't it fit chronologically? Or would this "itinerary" & chronology be altogether based on so little that it wouldn't be worth speculating? What I mean is: do scholars offer any such theories?
" Philistia": long gone in C2 BCE, why even mention Philistines at this stage? By now it's a known fact that they were absorbed into local culture, but can't the Horon worship have come to Jamnia only AFTER their disappearence as a distinct ethnos and culture by the late C5 BCE? Arminden ( talk) 10:49, 17 February 2024 (UTC)