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"In particular, many fans found it disappointing that the girls from Save the Homeland, Gwen, Dia, Lyla, Katie, and Gina, whom could not be wed in the previous game, could not be married in this game either." Who the heck wrote this? You can marry all of these girls! I edited it to remove this. Isn't the rest of that Trivia note just opinion anyway? - ABC —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.10.46.254 ( talk) 17:02, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
If your going to add something to the charts, please fix them accordingly and alphabetically.
As for grammar, words such as "you" should not be used, as this is NOT encyclopedic.
Lord Falcon 01:30, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
:For that matter, most of these charts shouldn't be here. If you have time and a reasonably good description of the characters for instance, please change them into lists as it is more encyclopedic.--
Niroht 16:01, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Charts removed. Have a nice day. --
Niroht
21:15, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
I don't mean to sound mean or anything, however I find it very annoying when someone suggests that my general intelligence is worse than their own based on my lack on interest on a particular subject.
The question is wether or not the four links to off site Harvest Moon fan sites should be included. My arguement is simple. The official site provides nothing. Furthermore, IGN, which is in no way an expert on Harvest Moon, is apparently fine. It is my opinion that the lack of information from those two sources, which may on the outside seem more official, justifies the inclusion of the fan sites. Now, if people would like to discuss which particular fansites should be allowed then, by all means, state your opinion, however I plan on reverting the page so that it includes those links unless Jedi can provide a logical explaination as to why they do not serve a useful and unique purpose. Thank you, and goodnight. Vjasper 05:30, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that in one section it states that the game ends if you marry Jamie. After this, I went searching other websites to try to find some evidence of this or why it happens. This is the only site that mentions that, and as neither of the two external links seem to offer a citation of that fact, could someone double-check it? It really doesn't sound right considering the plot of the game. clevomon 20:07, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
The Fact is true, If The Player chooses to marry Jamie, The will end. You will just be shown a cutscene of what happens to your family and the village but you cannot continue your game. Here is a site that tells, what I just said. Here's the site: http://www.sonophax.net/ht/?file=rival&s=soh 00Goldeneye 20:43, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
I married Jamie as a male character quite a few times (even though the screenshot I added is NOT mine). (SPOILERS!) If you choose to marry Jamie, you get a very special (and VERY nice) wedding that takes place at the Harvest Goddess Spring, and it is the Harvest Goddess that marries you two. After the lovely wedding scene, you get certain cutscenes depending on what kind of stuff you did before marrying Jamie (such as winning the cow festival, sheep festival, and so on). VERY nice. However the game DOES NOT END. The game will actually go back to wherever you last saved before marrying Jamie. SilentWind 21:57, 1 October 2006 (UTC)SilentWind
This was stated that the game does not end. it continues no matter who you marry. this should be included into the infromation to clear up confusion! once again the game does not end! take it from someone that has acctually played the game (and there are many here) also all reliable game sites state that nomatter who you marry the game does not end. I dont know if this comment is considered a POV but im acctually stating facts and I tried my best to stay away from a POV comment Maverick423 19:54, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
This article seems very much like a FAQ or walkthrough. I would try to fix some of it, but I'm currently playing the game and don't want to spoil any of it, in addition I'm not sure the best way to fix it. Could someone look into this?-- Niroht 23:06, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
I've now added a little text to the 'musical notes' section so that it doesn't look so barren (there were just one or two sentences which were game-guide anyway). In doing so I've hopefully cleaned up after my previous edits and left the article in such a way as it doesn't look odd (that's not to say the text is particularly brilliant, just that it at least pertains to the section). I'm standing back now and waiting for feedback before proceeding further. QuagmireDog 14:11, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Good job with the notes bit, and thanks. I prefer to beat the game on my own so having this article say everything prevents me from editing it. Also very FAQ-ish, though, are the charts of characters and animals, what they're like, etc. That needs to be trimmed into a single list of characters with short descriptions. Additionally I'm almost entirely certain the the entire image gallery thing at the end has to go. Again, good work. -- Niroht 21:57, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
This article wasn`t that faqish a month ago.Someone added so much spoiler content we could post this article on gamefaqs.Before I start deleting faqish stuff next month i need someone to tell me what not to mess with.I don`t want to start an edit war.-- Purelyrandom 17:29, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
The image of a freebie to those who pre-rdered the game does not heklp the article at all... I'm gonna remove it if noone/not enough people object. Abby724 01:14, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
For removing the image-
How about moving it to the Trivia section? — Laserion 13:39, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be a part about when you/your wife gets pregnant, and the resulting child?
I already went ahead and did the honors. SilentWind 16:15, 5 October 2006 (UTC)SilentWind
I just went through and removed the characters table, turning it into a list of characters with short descriptions. Some of the need expanding, though, especially Meryl. Please expand any that you can. -- Niroht 21:57, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Darnit. I'd really really really really appreciate if you put the table back. Wikipedia used to be my all-time guide to Harvest Moon, but now it is no longer because you took away the part where it said what the character likes and where it can be found. =( Sorry, I don't mean to sound n00bish, but please, I really depend on Wikipedia for helpful info.
Well, thanks for your help anyway. I suppose you're right, =D
I fixed the Seasons section as well as I could. Fixed up some major errors, typos and poorly written sentances. SilentWind 19:56, 1 October 2006 (UTC)SilentWind
I also fixed the places where the word "you" was used. Everyone, when you are editing articles like this please do not use the word "you". Help keep the quality of this article polished. SilentWind 16:56, 5 October 2006 (UTC)SilentWind
Grr! Anonymous (IP) people keep adding senseless, confusing or unnecessary paragraphs or sentances SilentWind 21:59, 15 October 2006 (UTC)SilentWind
Does anyone know when this will be released in the UK? Surely not 2007.- user:EEVEE103
No one has answered my question, so I will assume november 2006 or december 2006. user:EEVEE103
Goodness knows, it keeps getting put back. Either they're having trouble localizing it or they might even be holding back till the Wii is released early December - effectively letting the game run on two systems at the time of release. 86.142.194.72 15:52, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
the nintendo official magazine has now said january, but releasing it near the wii launch date, like you said, would be a good idea...- user:EEVEE103
Its due for release on October 19 2007 on Wii JohnnyWestlake 22:10, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Now Rising Star says that they're going to release it on the 14th of March, 2008. Apparently Nintendo wouldn't release some code that they needed, or something. WorMzy ( talk) 10:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, this is the best of four photos I have found on the entire Internet of Jamie's wedding. I wonder why there are only four? Anyway, sorry about the very poor quality of the photo. I have yet to locate a screenshot of Jamie's wedding with Jamie being the male and your character being a female. Hopefully, if I do, it will be much better quality... SilentWind 19:49, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
isnt there a photo that has small screenshots merged into one giant photo of all the weddings? i could of sworn i saw it wouldnt this photo suit the marrage area better?
Maverick423
18:07, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
A while ago, I tried to go through the article and improve it as best I could, and would love to try to continue working on it. ^_^
What kinds of citations are needed - how do you prove something like not having a home rating system besides by playing the game? Or does it need a citation that Animal Crossing does have a rating system?
And what way is there to go about making it sound less FAQ-ish? When do details get too in-depth and not necessary for non-players? Telling what's available in each season? Specific goals like Power Berries? Lists of animals?
And is it necessary to talk about festivals in the article? There's nothing on them now, just wondering if there should be.
Thanks, Toadette Fan 01:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
I deleted the info specifically about Kurt, his hangouts and likes and stuff for "if you're hooked on" him. Is that what is meant by too FAQ-ish, or is there more than needs to be fixed? And about the description of every musical note - it's rather specific, isn't it? I thought information that only players would be interested in is considered too FAQ-y, and I'm sure non-fans wouldn't need such an in-depth list... and this one actually looks like it was copy/pasted directly from a game guide...
Toadette Fan
20:41, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
The article says Jamie "is always a girl no matter the gender of the player." I thought Jamie's gender was always the opposite of the player's, hence the androgynous name, hair style, etc? NightMaj 02:31, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
You're right, Jamies gender is always the opposite to the player. WorMzy ( talk) 10:12, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I removed the discouraged trivia section and attempted to put the information on what game the characters came from inside the article. However, are character origins necessary for the Character section, as in, stating in which game a character first appeared? What important information should the character bios be restricted to? Toadette Fan ( talk) 20:23, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes As s/he said above Jamie's gender is opposite no matter what. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Draco pupgirl ( talk • contribs) 00:34, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Okay, so I've been looking through some good and featured video game articles and they all seem to have a few things in common, namely a section for critical reception of the game and a nice huge chunk of source references at the bottom. Is there any particular way to go about doing that? I'm not quite sure what kinds of reviewers and critics are notable enough to research, but I figure - as the holder of the most ridiculous collection of HM:MM scenes and quotes known to mankind - I might soon be bold and start citing some character/plot/gameplay facts that can be backed up straight from the game. Any specific controversial ones that need to be verified? Toadette Fan ( talk) 05:12, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Do the changes in the Wii version warrant a seperate section? I'm picking up the game tomorrow so I can list some of the changes. (Daft Ada) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.64.224.250 ( talk) 12:52, 13 March 2008 (UTC) The Wii version cut out the female character. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.86.188.99 ( talk) 23:17, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
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"In particular, many fans found it disappointing that the girls from Save the Homeland, Gwen, Dia, Lyla, Katie, and Gina, whom could not be wed in the previous game, could not be married in this game either." Who the heck wrote this? You can marry all of these girls! I edited it to remove this. Isn't the rest of that Trivia note just opinion anyway? - ABC —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.10.46.254 ( talk) 17:02, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
If your going to add something to the charts, please fix them accordingly and alphabetically.
As for grammar, words such as "you" should not be used, as this is NOT encyclopedic.
Lord Falcon 01:30, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
:For that matter, most of these charts shouldn't be here. If you have time and a reasonably good description of the characters for instance, please change them into lists as it is more encyclopedic.--
Niroht 16:01, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Charts removed. Have a nice day. --
Niroht
21:15, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
I don't mean to sound mean or anything, however I find it very annoying when someone suggests that my general intelligence is worse than their own based on my lack on interest on a particular subject.
The question is wether or not the four links to off site Harvest Moon fan sites should be included. My arguement is simple. The official site provides nothing. Furthermore, IGN, which is in no way an expert on Harvest Moon, is apparently fine. It is my opinion that the lack of information from those two sources, which may on the outside seem more official, justifies the inclusion of the fan sites. Now, if people would like to discuss which particular fansites should be allowed then, by all means, state your opinion, however I plan on reverting the page so that it includes those links unless Jedi can provide a logical explaination as to why they do not serve a useful and unique purpose. Thank you, and goodnight. Vjasper 05:30, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that in one section it states that the game ends if you marry Jamie. After this, I went searching other websites to try to find some evidence of this or why it happens. This is the only site that mentions that, and as neither of the two external links seem to offer a citation of that fact, could someone double-check it? It really doesn't sound right considering the plot of the game. clevomon 20:07, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
The Fact is true, If The Player chooses to marry Jamie, The will end. You will just be shown a cutscene of what happens to your family and the village but you cannot continue your game. Here is a site that tells, what I just said. Here's the site: http://www.sonophax.net/ht/?file=rival&s=soh 00Goldeneye 20:43, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
I married Jamie as a male character quite a few times (even though the screenshot I added is NOT mine). (SPOILERS!) If you choose to marry Jamie, you get a very special (and VERY nice) wedding that takes place at the Harvest Goddess Spring, and it is the Harvest Goddess that marries you two. After the lovely wedding scene, you get certain cutscenes depending on what kind of stuff you did before marrying Jamie (such as winning the cow festival, sheep festival, and so on). VERY nice. However the game DOES NOT END. The game will actually go back to wherever you last saved before marrying Jamie. SilentWind 21:57, 1 October 2006 (UTC)SilentWind
This was stated that the game does not end. it continues no matter who you marry. this should be included into the infromation to clear up confusion! once again the game does not end! take it from someone that has acctually played the game (and there are many here) also all reliable game sites state that nomatter who you marry the game does not end. I dont know if this comment is considered a POV but im acctually stating facts and I tried my best to stay away from a POV comment Maverick423 19:54, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
This article seems very much like a FAQ or walkthrough. I would try to fix some of it, but I'm currently playing the game and don't want to spoil any of it, in addition I'm not sure the best way to fix it. Could someone look into this?-- Niroht 23:06, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
I've now added a little text to the 'musical notes' section so that it doesn't look so barren (there were just one or two sentences which were game-guide anyway). In doing so I've hopefully cleaned up after my previous edits and left the article in such a way as it doesn't look odd (that's not to say the text is particularly brilliant, just that it at least pertains to the section). I'm standing back now and waiting for feedback before proceeding further. QuagmireDog 14:11, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Good job with the notes bit, and thanks. I prefer to beat the game on my own so having this article say everything prevents me from editing it. Also very FAQ-ish, though, are the charts of characters and animals, what they're like, etc. That needs to be trimmed into a single list of characters with short descriptions. Additionally I'm almost entirely certain the the entire image gallery thing at the end has to go. Again, good work. -- Niroht 21:57, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
This article wasn`t that faqish a month ago.Someone added so much spoiler content we could post this article on gamefaqs.Before I start deleting faqish stuff next month i need someone to tell me what not to mess with.I don`t want to start an edit war.-- Purelyrandom 17:29, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
The image of a freebie to those who pre-rdered the game does not heklp the article at all... I'm gonna remove it if noone/not enough people object. Abby724 01:14, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
For removing the image-
How about moving it to the Trivia section? — Laserion 13:39, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be a part about when you/your wife gets pregnant, and the resulting child?
I already went ahead and did the honors. SilentWind 16:15, 5 October 2006 (UTC)SilentWind
I just went through and removed the characters table, turning it into a list of characters with short descriptions. Some of the need expanding, though, especially Meryl. Please expand any that you can. -- Niroht 21:57, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Darnit. I'd really really really really appreciate if you put the table back. Wikipedia used to be my all-time guide to Harvest Moon, but now it is no longer because you took away the part where it said what the character likes and where it can be found. =( Sorry, I don't mean to sound n00bish, but please, I really depend on Wikipedia for helpful info.
Well, thanks for your help anyway. I suppose you're right, =D
I fixed the Seasons section as well as I could. Fixed up some major errors, typos and poorly written sentances. SilentWind 19:56, 1 October 2006 (UTC)SilentWind
I also fixed the places where the word "you" was used. Everyone, when you are editing articles like this please do not use the word "you". Help keep the quality of this article polished. SilentWind 16:56, 5 October 2006 (UTC)SilentWind
Grr! Anonymous (IP) people keep adding senseless, confusing or unnecessary paragraphs or sentances SilentWind 21:59, 15 October 2006 (UTC)SilentWind
Does anyone know when this will be released in the UK? Surely not 2007.- user:EEVEE103
No one has answered my question, so I will assume november 2006 or december 2006. user:EEVEE103
Goodness knows, it keeps getting put back. Either they're having trouble localizing it or they might even be holding back till the Wii is released early December - effectively letting the game run on two systems at the time of release. 86.142.194.72 15:52, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
the nintendo official magazine has now said january, but releasing it near the wii launch date, like you said, would be a good idea...- user:EEVEE103
Its due for release on October 19 2007 on Wii JohnnyWestlake 22:10, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Now Rising Star says that they're going to release it on the 14th of March, 2008. Apparently Nintendo wouldn't release some code that they needed, or something. WorMzy ( talk) 10:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, this is the best of four photos I have found on the entire Internet of Jamie's wedding. I wonder why there are only four? Anyway, sorry about the very poor quality of the photo. I have yet to locate a screenshot of Jamie's wedding with Jamie being the male and your character being a female. Hopefully, if I do, it will be much better quality... SilentWind 19:49, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
isnt there a photo that has small screenshots merged into one giant photo of all the weddings? i could of sworn i saw it wouldnt this photo suit the marrage area better?
Maverick423
18:07, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
A while ago, I tried to go through the article and improve it as best I could, and would love to try to continue working on it. ^_^
What kinds of citations are needed - how do you prove something like not having a home rating system besides by playing the game? Or does it need a citation that Animal Crossing does have a rating system?
And what way is there to go about making it sound less FAQ-ish? When do details get too in-depth and not necessary for non-players? Telling what's available in each season? Specific goals like Power Berries? Lists of animals?
And is it necessary to talk about festivals in the article? There's nothing on them now, just wondering if there should be.
Thanks, Toadette Fan 01:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
I deleted the info specifically about Kurt, his hangouts and likes and stuff for "if you're hooked on" him. Is that what is meant by too FAQ-ish, or is there more than needs to be fixed? And about the description of every musical note - it's rather specific, isn't it? I thought information that only players would be interested in is considered too FAQ-y, and I'm sure non-fans wouldn't need such an in-depth list... and this one actually looks like it was copy/pasted directly from a game guide...
Toadette Fan
20:41, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
The article says Jamie "is always a girl no matter the gender of the player." I thought Jamie's gender was always the opposite of the player's, hence the androgynous name, hair style, etc? NightMaj 02:31, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
You're right, Jamies gender is always the opposite to the player. WorMzy ( talk) 10:12, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I removed the discouraged trivia section and attempted to put the information on what game the characters came from inside the article. However, are character origins necessary for the Character section, as in, stating in which game a character first appeared? What important information should the character bios be restricted to? Toadette Fan ( talk) 20:23, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes As s/he said above Jamie's gender is opposite no matter what. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Draco pupgirl ( talk • contribs) 00:34, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Okay, so I've been looking through some good and featured video game articles and they all seem to have a few things in common, namely a section for critical reception of the game and a nice huge chunk of source references at the bottom. Is there any particular way to go about doing that? I'm not quite sure what kinds of reviewers and critics are notable enough to research, but I figure - as the holder of the most ridiculous collection of HM:MM scenes and quotes known to mankind - I might soon be bold and start citing some character/plot/gameplay facts that can be backed up straight from the game. Any specific controversial ones that need to be verified? Toadette Fan ( talk) 05:12, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Do the changes in the Wii version warrant a seperate section? I'm picking up the game tomorrow so I can list some of the changes. (Daft Ada) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.64.224.250 ( talk) 12:52, 13 March 2008 (UTC) The Wii version cut out the female character. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.86.188.99 ( talk) 23:17, 15 March 2008 (UTC)