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I suppose that now this is created and the basics are done, we can go into smaller details. With a franchise article, I saw another one at Sailor Moon. In there, they have a small caption for each of the main charecters, in this case we would have 5. Would we want to consider adding one in, or no?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbloemeke ( talk • contribs)
So, I did a little research into other Good Articles of franchises, and here is what I found. First off, we need a section entitled "Plot". It just is for the basic overview of everything, basically the concepts of the story. In this case it would be that the story is about five kids who create a club centered around Haruhi which is also host to a meriad of people such as Time Travelers, Aliens, and Espers. This should not get into the specifics (SPOILER: Something like Asakura Ryouko tries to kill Kyon is NOT what needs to be in.) Individual plot elements are too specific.
I also noticed that absolutely no article has what we have, which is the series concepts. For instance, Kanon has no section devoted on Fox-Humans, and Sailor Moon has no sections on any of the antagonistic societies not of the inner scouts/outer scouts/starlights. Each of those is also an organization.
Most GA level articles seemed to have 3 main section. Plot, Charecters, and Adaptations. They also all seemed to have a very sizable lead. So, my opinion is that to make it into a GA article, that is what we need to do. What are your opinions on this? Sbloemeke 19:41, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure they translated Yuki Nagato's organization as the "Data Integration Thought Entity." Can anyone check to make sure?
Also, it says in the article that she is a Data Entity. I don't think she herself is the entity... so for now, I'm changing it to "humanoid interface created by the Data Integration Thought Entity." 74.116.137.2 17:34, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Just as a side note, did the fan translation sited in the SOS Brigade section, as "Save the world by Overloading it with fun, Suzumiya Haruhi's brigade", come from A.F.K.'s sub? Luigi6138 23:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Suggestion: I suggest that all general information regarding the Suzumiya Haruhi series, novel, plot, etc. except for the topics regarding franchises, be summarized, if not removed. I believe that there are already entries for the plot of the story. It will just make a redundant encyclopedia entry. Links must be provided to the general information about the series, but not the whole article/information. I hope that this will improve the quality of this entry. Vekou 12:07, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Since this is a franchise page, the infobox can be reduced to the size similar the Gundam franchise page. It is imaginable for that infobox to stretch the entire article (and more) if the Gundam series included all of its works into a single compounded infobox. For this series, infobox subsections, found in their own articles such as the anime and light novel series, can be removed. Yet, objection can stem from lack of a manga and video game sub-article for the franchise. So, this is something to think about later on. KyuuA4 ( talk) 17:40, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
"Namco Bandai Games has announced that another adventure game, The Promise of Haruhi Suzumiya (涼宮ハルヒの約束, Suzumiya Haruhi no Yakusoku?),[10] was released for the PlayStation Portable on December 20, 2007. " So, they announced that the game was released a month ago....someone wanna fix the english here? 68.8.219.56 ( talk) 09:45, 11 February 2008 (UTC)jopojelly
"Spreading Excitement All Over the World with the Haruhi Suzumiya Brigade" - I'm not sure that the "the" before the titular character's name should be there, and I don't think asosbrigade.com has been updated for quite a while now (most of the pages aren't there and I can't use Wayback Machine on the pages archived and find something out of those). I have watched the ASOS Brigade miniseries as well as the dub of broadcast-episode-2/chronological-episode-1 but I don't think that's enough of a citation. -- Addict 2006 23:30, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Here is a section from
Haruhi_Suzumiya_(franchise)#Organization
"Sealed Realities" or "Closed Spaces" are odd occurrences in the cross-dimensional faultlines catalyzed by Haruhi Suzumiya when she is antagonized as a sort of practice round for her godly powers. The world within the Sealed Reality is almost identical to a corresponding area of the world, but is colored in grey tones completely and devoid of people....
What is a "grey tone"? I find no other mention of it anywhere... I am curious, but also, it may need to be defined for better encyclopedic quality --
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16:39, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
All I can find are blogs. -- Addict 2006 19:03, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
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What's March 26, 2009 about ( here)? -- Addict 2006 16:02, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Was removing that entire section completely necessary? I agree that it is a bit excessive, but wouldn't trimming it be a bit more helpful. The section does contain some useful information to help people understand the series. - plau ( talk) 17:40, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
What prompted the copy edit request? I don't see anything that particularly stands out in this article. Are there any specific sections, or issues (tone, grammer etc.) that need to be addressed? Conversely, are the areas which need attention those that are still in flux from the recent merge/move actions? For those who have been truly following the discussion, is it safe to say that no action is forthcoming which will invalidate a copy edit? I truly love this franchise, and would enjoy working on the article, but I want to make sure that any changes made will actually be of benefit. RevZoe ( talk) 20:23, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
What with all the drama surrounding the possible airing of Season Two this month, it seems as if the article needs at least a sentence under the anime heading about this. Does anyone else agree? Or are there reasons for why this is not mentioned? J4cK0fHe4rt5 ( talk) 17:52, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Well I'm talking about the more recent developments, the last thing mentioned in the current paragraph is from 2007, but I have heard bits and pieces about the current April re-airing amounting to 28 episodes, and whether this is with Season Two mixed in or showing afterward, or something else. It just seems that there has been a lot of recent talk about the second series which is not mentioned at all in this article. J4cK0fHe4rt5 ( talk) 21:21, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
I noticed there is presently no mention of the huge controversy that erupted on the Internet over Kyoto Animation's teasing of its fans. They announced a second season of Haruhi, which then turned out to be a bunch of very short video clips that were released on YouTube, and a planned rebroadcast of the first season, rather than an all-new season of the show with a new plot. Fan reaction to this was very emotional; does this warrant a mention in the article or is it something only fans would be concerned with? - moritheil Talk 23:33, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
What about the controversy over Endless Eight, it's the same episode 4 times now. People are starting to stop watching this!!!
Tman7776 ( talk) 18:11, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
So as of May 22 there's a new episode with different opening/ending themes, and as I understand it its going in broadcast order. What I don't understand is what's the difference between List_of_Haruhi_Suzumiya_episodes and List_of_The_Melancholy_of_Haruhi_Suzumiya_episodes. The later doesn't have the new episode, though its mentioned at the top, and the former has what appears to be a duplication of some of the information in the Melancholy list. What is the organization scheme here? -- Kraftlos ( Talk | Contrib) 15:27, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Would it be better to only hve List of Haruhi Suzumiya episodes as the main article link under the anime section since the other articles are linked from there? AngelFire3423 ( talk) 21:22, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
I think there should be some mention of the current Endless Eight episodes.
At the time of this writing episodes 3, 4 & 5 have repeated the events of episode 2 with some minor variations. Currently there is a huge fan uproar because of this. Nobody knows when the looping will stop. It is speculated that it will either end at episode 8 or end after 8 looping episodes.
I do wonder what the purpose was for having repeated looping episodes and if anybody involved with the anime was reprimanded for it.
Either way I do think it deserves a section simply because it is almost unheard of for a show to do something like this. Maxtro ( talk) 20:25, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone else think we should use the novel's translated terms except in contexts strictly relating to the anime (e.g. "Data Overmind" versus "Data Integration Thought Entity")? (I've never seen the dubbed anime, so I personally have no idea whether terminology is consistent between Funimation's and Little, Brown's translations.)— Loveはドコ? ( talk • contribs) 07:40, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Just wondering, can someone take the time to create List of Nyorōn Churuya-san episodes? Its counterpart, The Melancholy of Haruhi-chan Suzumiya, already has its own episode list. BlazerKnight ( talk) 23:37, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
I thought Nagato's boss was the Data Integrated Entity or something along those lines. What there a change in the translation? Evilgidgit ( talk) 15:36, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
-- KrebMarkt ( talk) 13:39, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
This seems to be an outdated translation by various fansubbers that continues to this day. It seems redundant as 消失 has been translated to English as "Disappearance" not only by the English license holder but by the original Japanese company as Disappearance. The film it self had "The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya" as it's title in the original Japanese release as shown in this link http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/2161/thedisappearance.jpg. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.164.140.130 ( talk) 19:21, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
There a a few instances where past dates are referred to in present or future tense. Some minor cleaning should be done to bring it all up to date. — unsigned —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.72.180.226 ( talk) 06:07, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
It sure would be nice if this article mentioned what the hell SOS and ASOS stands for? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.255.8.230 ( talk) 08:13, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
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I suppose that now this is created and the basics are done, we can go into smaller details. With a franchise article, I saw another one at Sailor Moon. In there, they have a small caption for each of the main charecters, in this case we would have 5. Would we want to consider adding one in, or no?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbloemeke ( talk • contribs)
So, I did a little research into other Good Articles of franchises, and here is what I found. First off, we need a section entitled "Plot". It just is for the basic overview of everything, basically the concepts of the story. In this case it would be that the story is about five kids who create a club centered around Haruhi which is also host to a meriad of people such as Time Travelers, Aliens, and Espers. This should not get into the specifics (SPOILER: Something like Asakura Ryouko tries to kill Kyon is NOT what needs to be in.) Individual plot elements are too specific.
I also noticed that absolutely no article has what we have, which is the series concepts. For instance, Kanon has no section devoted on Fox-Humans, and Sailor Moon has no sections on any of the antagonistic societies not of the inner scouts/outer scouts/starlights. Each of those is also an organization.
Most GA level articles seemed to have 3 main section. Plot, Charecters, and Adaptations. They also all seemed to have a very sizable lead. So, my opinion is that to make it into a GA article, that is what we need to do. What are your opinions on this? Sbloemeke 19:41, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure they translated Yuki Nagato's organization as the "Data Integration Thought Entity." Can anyone check to make sure?
Also, it says in the article that she is a Data Entity. I don't think she herself is the entity... so for now, I'm changing it to "humanoid interface created by the Data Integration Thought Entity." 74.116.137.2 17:34, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Just as a side note, did the fan translation sited in the SOS Brigade section, as "Save the world by Overloading it with fun, Suzumiya Haruhi's brigade", come from A.F.K.'s sub? Luigi6138 23:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Suggestion: I suggest that all general information regarding the Suzumiya Haruhi series, novel, plot, etc. except for the topics regarding franchises, be summarized, if not removed. I believe that there are already entries for the plot of the story. It will just make a redundant encyclopedia entry. Links must be provided to the general information about the series, but not the whole article/information. I hope that this will improve the quality of this entry. Vekou 12:07, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Since this is a franchise page, the infobox can be reduced to the size similar the Gundam franchise page. It is imaginable for that infobox to stretch the entire article (and more) if the Gundam series included all of its works into a single compounded infobox. For this series, infobox subsections, found in their own articles such as the anime and light novel series, can be removed. Yet, objection can stem from lack of a manga and video game sub-article for the franchise. So, this is something to think about later on. KyuuA4 ( talk) 17:40, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
"Namco Bandai Games has announced that another adventure game, The Promise of Haruhi Suzumiya (涼宮ハルヒの約束, Suzumiya Haruhi no Yakusoku?),[10] was released for the PlayStation Portable on December 20, 2007. " So, they announced that the game was released a month ago....someone wanna fix the english here? 68.8.219.56 ( talk) 09:45, 11 February 2008 (UTC)jopojelly
"Spreading Excitement All Over the World with the Haruhi Suzumiya Brigade" - I'm not sure that the "the" before the titular character's name should be there, and I don't think asosbrigade.com has been updated for quite a while now (most of the pages aren't there and I can't use Wayback Machine on the pages archived and find something out of those). I have watched the ASOS Brigade miniseries as well as the dub of broadcast-episode-2/chronological-episode-1 but I don't think that's enough of a citation. -- Addict 2006 23:30, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Here is a section from
Haruhi_Suzumiya_(franchise)#Organization
"Sealed Realities" or "Closed Spaces" are odd occurrences in the cross-dimensional faultlines catalyzed by Haruhi Suzumiya when she is antagonized as a sort of practice round for her godly powers. The world within the Sealed Reality is almost identical to a corresponding area of the world, but is colored in grey tones completely and devoid of people....
What is a "grey tone"? I find no other mention of it anywhere... I am curious, but also, it may need to be defined for better encyclopedic quality --
LiteralKa (
talk)
16:39, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
All I can find are blogs. -- Addict 2006 19:03, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
The image Image:Haruhi book 01 s.jpg is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check
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What's March 26, 2009 about ( here)? -- Addict 2006 16:02, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Was removing that entire section completely necessary? I agree that it is a bit excessive, but wouldn't trimming it be a bit more helpful. The section does contain some useful information to help people understand the series. - plau ( talk) 17:40, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
What prompted the copy edit request? I don't see anything that particularly stands out in this article. Are there any specific sections, or issues (tone, grammer etc.) that need to be addressed? Conversely, are the areas which need attention those that are still in flux from the recent merge/move actions? For those who have been truly following the discussion, is it safe to say that no action is forthcoming which will invalidate a copy edit? I truly love this franchise, and would enjoy working on the article, but I want to make sure that any changes made will actually be of benefit. RevZoe ( talk) 20:23, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
What with all the drama surrounding the possible airing of Season Two this month, it seems as if the article needs at least a sentence under the anime heading about this. Does anyone else agree? Or are there reasons for why this is not mentioned? J4cK0fHe4rt5 ( talk) 17:52, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Well I'm talking about the more recent developments, the last thing mentioned in the current paragraph is from 2007, but I have heard bits and pieces about the current April re-airing amounting to 28 episodes, and whether this is with Season Two mixed in or showing afterward, or something else. It just seems that there has been a lot of recent talk about the second series which is not mentioned at all in this article. J4cK0fHe4rt5 ( talk) 21:21, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
I noticed there is presently no mention of the huge controversy that erupted on the Internet over Kyoto Animation's teasing of its fans. They announced a second season of Haruhi, which then turned out to be a bunch of very short video clips that were released on YouTube, and a planned rebroadcast of the first season, rather than an all-new season of the show with a new plot. Fan reaction to this was very emotional; does this warrant a mention in the article or is it something only fans would be concerned with? - moritheil Talk 23:33, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
What about the controversy over Endless Eight, it's the same episode 4 times now. People are starting to stop watching this!!!
Tman7776 ( talk) 18:11, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
So as of May 22 there's a new episode with different opening/ending themes, and as I understand it its going in broadcast order. What I don't understand is what's the difference between List_of_Haruhi_Suzumiya_episodes and List_of_The_Melancholy_of_Haruhi_Suzumiya_episodes. The later doesn't have the new episode, though its mentioned at the top, and the former has what appears to be a duplication of some of the information in the Melancholy list. What is the organization scheme here? -- Kraftlos ( Talk | Contrib) 15:27, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Would it be better to only hve List of Haruhi Suzumiya episodes as the main article link under the anime section since the other articles are linked from there? AngelFire3423 ( talk) 21:22, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
I think there should be some mention of the current Endless Eight episodes.
At the time of this writing episodes 3, 4 & 5 have repeated the events of episode 2 with some minor variations. Currently there is a huge fan uproar because of this. Nobody knows when the looping will stop. It is speculated that it will either end at episode 8 or end after 8 looping episodes.
I do wonder what the purpose was for having repeated looping episodes and if anybody involved with the anime was reprimanded for it.
Either way I do think it deserves a section simply because it is almost unheard of for a show to do something like this. Maxtro ( talk) 20:25, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone else think we should use the novel's translated terms except in contexts strictly relating to the anime (e.g. "Data Overmind" versus "Data Integration Thought Entity")? (I've never seen the dubbed anime, so I personally have no idea whether terminology is consistent between Funimation's and Little, Brown's translations.)— Loveはドコ? ( talk • contribs) 07:40, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Just wondering, can someone take the time to create List of Nyorōn Churuya-san episodes? Its counterpart, The Melancholy of Haruhi-chan Suzumiya, already has its own episode list. BlazerKnight ( talk) 23:37, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
I thought Nagato's boss was the Data Integrated Entity or something along those lines. What there a change in the translation? Evilgidgit ( talk) 15:36, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
-- KrebMarkt ( talk) 13:39, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
This seems to be an outdated translation by various fansubbers that continues to this day. It seems redundant as 消失 has been translated to English as "Disappearance" not only by the English license holder but by the original Japanese company as Disappearance. The film it self had "The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya" as it's title in the original Japanese release as shown in this link http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/2161/thedisappearance.jpg. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.164.140.130 ( talk) 19:21, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
There a a few instances where past dates are referred to in present or future tense. Some minor cleaning should be done to bring it all up to date. — unsigned —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.72.180.226 ( talk) 06:07, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
It sure would be nice if this article mentioned what the hell SOS and ASOS stands for? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.255.8.230 ( talk) 08:13, 4 February 2011 (UTC)