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Please add category for Graphic Designer and include Jacob Hassett as the artist. Hassettproductions ( talk) 04:55, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
All this has is AllMusic saying it "works exceedingly well as a modern pop album"; and Rolling Stone saying it "invokes an intimately emotional Seventies soft-rock vibe". The field on the infobox is empty. Cornerstonepicker ( talk) 20:13, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
For Vox, Sarah Sahim suggests that "in giving the intransigent boundaries previously dictated to him the middle finger, Styles is typifying the essence of punk." [1] Bungledup ( talk) 16:34, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
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Add In the genre section Pop Rock Indie Rock Dream Pop And Maybe Rock N 'Roll And Alternative rock SOMEMEHELLBOIII ( talk) 10:29, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
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Personnel looks heavy now. I have small screen on my PC but before when it was in 2 columns it looked great. And there were no problems with that. Same on my phone. And almost all albums pages has "Personnel" in 2 columns. Is it really necessary to give to it so much space? — Preceding unsigned comment added by EleniSpelmen ( talk • contribs) 12:07, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
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Fellow UKer Dua Lipa debut album was also self titled. And so as Cabello and Lovato though it was their forenames.
But most self titled long players rather have leading sentence transfused to something like this e.g. "XYZ is the (cardinal number goes here) studio album by the XYZ of the same name" in lieu of having artist name repeated more than once.
Sounds like a fancier way to address right? The latter album mentioned above wasn't her first it was her fourth.
Let this sentencing convention happen one of those days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.163.17 ( talk • contribs) 23:19, 9 May 20198 (UTC)
Namely NVH it's the fact that the artist's name can't be repeated more than once. It's the main point of this conversation.
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@ EleniSpelmen: "Sweet Creature" is a single according to multiple sources:
Listen to Harry Styles' new single 'Sweet Creature'( [1]) and
Harry Styles discusses new single 'Sweet Creature'( [2])
... 'Sweet Creature,' his second solo single ...( [3])
Harry Styles reduced his fan base to tears after he dropped his second solo single( [4])
... the legality of Styles' new single( [5]).
Radio impact or a music video is not necessarily required for a song to be considered a single, but if you'd like to argue about radio, the song premiered on Beats 1 Radio as Zane Lowe's "World Record", songs that are released there are generally considered singles, and I can't imagine why he would promote it there if this was just a promotional single. You've yet to provide any source that calls it a promotional single, buzz single, or anything like that. You can't just assume a song to be a promotional single whenever the artist or the label doesn't directly call it a single. Hayman30 ( talk) 04:51, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Sweet Creature never was a single and never was promoted as one– that's your opinion, not fact. We don't have some sort of threshold to determine which songs are singles are which ones aren't. If a source calls it a single, it is a single. In this case, multiple sources call it a single.
Please give me something more than outlets saying the word 'single' in articles written at the same day when it was released– I don't need to "give" you anything. No one gets to control which songs are singles and which ones aren't. Sources determine that. And what's the problem with "articles written at the same day when it was released"? As if article should be written days after the song's release to be considered reliable? I don't seem to get your point here.
Here is Billboard, Forbes and official Sony press release saying it is just a 'new track'– calling it a "track" or "song" doesn't mean it can't be a single. There's no contradiction here. "Sweet Creature" can be a single, song, and track at the same time. The Forbes article you quoted is a contributor article which is not considered a reliable source as per WP:FORBESCON. The Sony press release you provided, which referred to "Sign of the Times" as "the current single" at the time, is debatable, but it still doesn't explicitly call "Sweet Creature" a promotional single. We can't just automatically assume that the song is a promotional single based on a primary source, especially when there's no explicit statement, as per WP:PRIMARY. I'm inclined to go with what the secondary sources say and keep this as a single, but I'll ping Certificationsaccess to see if they have any additional input on this, as they were the one who originally added this. By the way, when pinging an editor, please sign your message, or else the ping won't go through. Thanks. Hayman30 ( talk) 10:06, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Harry has released second single, Two Ghosts( [10])
Harry Styles appeared on the ITV chat show to promote his second solo single( [11]).
"Kiwi" is the third music video and single from the One Direction member’s self-titled debut solo album( [12]) and
“Kiwi” served as the third and final single to Styles’ self-titled debut solo album,( [13])
Harry's six official singles ranked by chart sales (downloads & streams) below( [14]).
I was here, I'm a fan of Harry and there were no mentions of 'Sweet Creature' being promoted as official single– it doesn't matter who you are, how much advanced knowledge you have about Harry Styles, or if you work at Sony Music. Verifiability matters on Wikipedia, and your observation cannot be verified, nor can it be a reliable source.
Both Two Ghosts and Kiwi had impact date, videos, and were promoted as official singles.– again, there isn't a set of rules that determine whether a song is a single, at least not on Wikipedia. Music video, radio impact, etc. are not determining factors, they're irrelevant to the discussion. What we need is a source saying that it is a single.
It has been 3 years and there is no point to change all his pages and name 'Sweet Creature' as a single when there is nothing that can confirm it was– if there's no point change it, why do you care so much? And it's not about whether there's a "point" to change it, it's about whether the content on this article is accurate. We have a conflict of sources here, and it's important to let the readers know. And again, we don't need any "confirmation", sources are all we need.
.... single (the same word for "song")). Based on your own logic if article said "single" it doesn't mean it is a single– um, no? A "single" is different from a "song", people don't just point to a random song on the album and call it a single, there's a clear distinction. Make sure to ping me when you reply. Thanks. Hayman30 ( talk) 03:20, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
Billboard did not directly refer to "Two Ghost" as the second single either, it merely said that "Kiwi" is the third, there's no way we can infer from that statement whether the second single is "Sweet Creature" or "Two Ghosts"'Two Ghosts' had radio impact date (all the links on its page) + Harry himself announced it as a single on "The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon" ( [15])(last video in the article, 2:45). It is confirmed that 'Two Ghosts' was a single, so Billboard mentioning 'Kiwi' as the third and last single kinda means that 'Sweet Creature' wasn't the one.
Billboard mentioning 'Kiwi' as the third and last single kinda means that 'Sweet Creature' wasn't the one.– you arrived at that conclusion by inferring from what the author wrote, but they didn't explicitly say that "Two Ghosts" is the second single, that's entirely your interpretation in which you inserted your own views. Hayman30 ( talk) 14:24, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
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The album reached gold for 7.5k+ copies shipped in Austria. source: https://ifpi.at/auszeichnungen/ Please add that! -- 2A02:B98:4731:9FE4:FCDB:4765:BB5C:CCB ( talk) 15:32, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
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Please add category for Graphic Designer and include Jacob Hassett as the artist. Hassettproductions ( talk) 04:55, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
All this has is AllMusic saying it "works exceedingly well as a modern pop album"; and Rolling Stone saying it "invokes an intimately emotional Seventies soft-rock vibe". The field on the infobox is empty. Cornerstonepicker ( talk) 20:13, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
For Vox, Sarah Sahim suggests that "in giving the intransigent boundaries previously dictated to him the middle finger, Styles is typifying the essence of punk." [1] Bungledup ( talk) 16:34, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
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Add In the genre section Pop Rock Indie Rock Dream Pop And Maybe Rock N 'Roll And Alternative rock SOMEMEHELLBOIII ( talk) 10:29, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
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Personnel looks heavy now. I have small screen on my PC but before when it was in 2 columns it looked great. And there were no problems with that. Same on my phone. And almost all albums pages has "Personnel" in 2 columns. Is it really necessary to give to it so much space? — Preceding unsigned comment added by EleniSpelmen ( talk • contribs) 12:07, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
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Fellow UKer Dua Lipa debut album was also self titled. And so as Cabello and Lovato though it was their forenames.
But most self titled long players rather have leading sentence transfused to something like this e.g. "XYZ is the (cardinal number goes here) studio album by the XYZ of the same name" in lieu of having artist name repeated more than once.
Sounds like a fancier way to address right? The latter album mentioned above wasn't her first it was her fourth.
Let this sentencing convention happen one of those days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.163.17 ( talk • contribs) 23:19, 9 May 20198 (UTC)
Namely NVH it's the fact that the artist's name can't be repeated more than once. It's the main point of this conversation.
67.81.163.178 ( talk) 15:15, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
@ EleniSpelmen: "Sweet Creature" is a single according to multiple sources:
Listen to Harry Styles' new single 'Sweet Creature'( [1]) and
Harry Styles discusses new single 'Sweet Creature'( [2])
... 'Sweet Creature,' his second solo single ...( [3])
Harry Styles reduced his fan base to tears after he dropped his second solo single( [4])
... the legality of Styles' new single( [5]).
Radio impact or a music video is not necessarily required for a song to be considered a single, but if you'd like to argue about radio, the song premiered on Beats 1 Radio as Zane Lowe's "World Record", songs that are released there are generally considered singles, and I can't imagine why he would promote it there if this was just a promotional single. You've yet to provide any source that calls it a promotional single, buzz single, or anything like that. You can't just assume a song to be a promotional single whenever the artist or the label doesn't directly call it a single. Hayman30 ( talk) 04:51, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Sweet Creature never was a single and never was promoted as one– that's your opinion, not fact. We don't have some sort of threshold to determine which songs are singles are which ones aren't. If a source calls it a single, it is a single. In this case, multiple sources call it a single.
Please give me something more than outlets saying the word 'single' in articles written at the same day when it was released– I don't need to "give" you anything. No one gets to control which songs are singles and which ones aren't. Sources determine that. And what's the problem with "articles written at the same day when it was released"? As if article should be written days after the song's release to be considered reliable? I don't seem to get your point here.
Here is Billboard, Forbes and official Sony press release saying it is just a 'new track'– calling it a "track" or "song" doesn't mean it can't be a single. There's no contradiction here. "Sweet Creature" can be a single, song, and track at the same time. The Forbes article you quoted is a contributor article which is not considered a reliable source as per WP:FORBESCON. The Sony press release you provided, which referred to "Sign of the Times" as "the current single" at the time, is debatable, but it still doesn't explicitly call "Sweet Creature" a promotional single. We can't just automatically assume that the song is a promotional single based on a primary source, especially when there's no explicit statement, as per WP:PRIMARY. I'm inclined to go with what the secondary sources say and keep this as a single, but I'll ping Certificationsaccess to see if they have any additional input on this, as they were the one who originally added this. By the way, when pinging an editor, please sign your message, or else the ping won't go through. Thanks. Hayman30 ( talk) 10:06, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Harry has released second single, Two Ghosts( [10])
Harry Styles appeared on the ITV chat show to promote his second solo single( [11]).
"Kiwi" is the third music video and single from the One Direction member’s self-titled debut solo album( [12]) and
“Kiwi” served as the third and final single to Styles’ self-titled debut solo album,( [13])
Harry's six official singles ranked by chart sales (downloads & streams) below( [14]).
I was here, I'm a fan of Harry and there were no mentions of 'Sweet Creature' being promoted as official single– it doesn't matter who you are, how much advanced knowledge you have about Harry Styles, or if you work at Sony Music. Verifiability matters on Wikipedia, and your observation cannot be verified, nor can it be a reliable source.
Both Two Ghosts and Kiwi had impact date, videos, and were promoted as official singles.– again, there isn't a set of rules that determine whether a song is a single, at least not on Wikipedia. Music video, radio impact, etc. are not determining factors, they're irrelevant to the discussion. What we need is a source saying that it is a single.
It has been 3 years and there is no point to change all his pages and name 'Sweet Creature' as a single when there is nothing that can confirm it was– if there's no point change it, why do you care so much? And it's not about whether there's a "point" to change it, it's about whether the content on this article is accurate. We have a conflict of sources here, and it's important to let the readers know. And again, we don't need any "confirmation", sources are all we need.
.... single (the same word for "song")). Based on your own logic if article said "single" it doesn't mean it is a single– um, no? A "single" is different from a "song", people don't just point to a random song on the album and call it a single, there's a clear distinction. Make sure to ping me when you reply. Thanks. Hayman30 ( talk) 03:20, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
Billboard did not directly refer to "Two Ghost" as the second single either, it merely said that "Kiwi" is the third, there's no way we can infer from that statement whether the second single is "Sweet Creature" or "Two Ghosts"'Two Ghosts' had radio impact date (all the links on its page) + Harry himself announced it as a single on "The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon" ( [15])(last video in the article, 2:45). It is confirmed that 'Two Ghosts' was a single, so Billboard mentioning 'Kiwi' as the third and last single kinda means that 'Sweet Creature' wasn't the one.
Billboard mentioning 'Kiwi' as the third and last single kinda means that 'Sweet Creature' wasn't the one.– you arrived at that conclusion by inferring from what the author wrote, but they didn't explicitly say that "Two Ghosts" is the second single, that's entirely your interpretation in which you inserted your own views. Hayman30 ( talk) 14:24, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
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The album reached gold for 7.5k+ copies shipped in Austria. source: https://ifpi.at/auszeichnungen/ Please add that! -- 2A02:B98:4731:9FE4:FCDB:4765:BB5C:CCB ( talk) 15:32, 29 March 2022 (UTC)