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Maybe a spoiler warning would be appropriate...? It contains several details from the stories of the books. 83.145.61.253 22:47, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Having read several of these novels, I'm confused about the status of the daughter Maddie. In "City of Bones" (2002), it says that Bosch has no children. Yet in "Nine Dragons" (2009) he has a teenage daughter. Can anyone clear up this apparent discrepancy? Lazyzee ( talk) 16:06, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
The current infobox pic is kind of washed out with poor lightning, and parts of the face is obscured. I'm sure a better screen shot can be procured. CapnZapp ( talk) 10:01, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Done – CapnZapp Maybe it can, but not on my telly / not easily. For the moment, I have lifted the exposure on the existing one, and hope you like the change. Best wishes DBaK ( talk) 20:49, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
Do two reverts count as an edit war?" - Are you saying you'll stop at two?
Anyway, a photo of Titus Welliver in character as Harry Bosch is clearly more relevant to this article than a photo of Welliver out of character." - First off, I hope you realize they're the same person. Second, there is nothing in the current photo to show that it's specically a scene from Bosch. It could be from any show or movie Welliver has been in. If it wasn't such a tight frame and instead had more visual cues from the show, that would help. Oh, and maybe not having half his obscured would be a big help as well. Not sure why you're so dead set on this image, it's just a screen shot... almost any screen shot of him from the show would be better. Meanwhile, I added an image where you can actually see the guy's face! It's certainly more helpful than the current image, whether he's in character or not.
Even the fact that he's sucking on a cigarette is useful information." - Lolz! No... it's not. - wolf 21:26, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
Again, a picture of him smoking doesn't inform the reader about this character. He smoked early in the show, then quit. It's not as if it had any impact on the character during the series, nor did it play any part of any storyline in the series. Smoking is not even mentioned anywhere in the article. Therefore, it's not worth retaining this image, just because he's seen smoking in it, as opposed to an image where the reader can actually see the guy's entire face.
You say he's wearing a suit and his hair is shorter. So what? a) The difference in hair between the two images is negligible, b) his hair is the same as the second iamge at times onscreen anyway, c) he doesn't always wear a suit, (he's not Luther, for example) he also wears casual clothing in the series, and d) I believe he wears a leather jacket on screen at times as well. Other than that, there is nothing in the first image to help inform readers him. It's too close cropped, there's nothing in the background, like; a police car, the squad room, a crime scene, his unique home-on-stilts, or other characters in the series. The image could just as easily be Welliver from another role or IRL.
You've now had two different editors tell you that the image should be changed because his face is obscured in the current one, but as you know, consensus isn't a vote, but about the quality of the arguments supporting a particular position. Between the two images, the article is better served with the second image. But if you are so dead-set against it, then find another that is better than either image, surely you agree that would serve the article even better, no? - wolf 23:25, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
Please, let's not get distracted. The topic at hand is that the current image is poor, and needs replacing. Specifically: please find an image where you can clearly see the actor/character's face. Everything else is secondary, and at most a matter of personal preference should we ever have several images to choose from that meets this basic requirement. But we can resume these discussions if and when we get to that point. CapnZapp ( talk) 01:42, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
The current picture isn't good, and I'm removing it until we can find a replacement.
This way, the current picture won't be left standing just because we can't agree on which pic to use.
Let's start fresh, with no picture. Any pictures where Wellivers face can be clearly seen are welcome. CapnZapp ( talk) 11:29, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
I'm pinging you User:Lamro on the assumption you genuinely thought you were fixing a mistake without seeing this talk section. If you have no opinion on what picture to use, please undo your restoration until discussion has finished. If you do have an opinion, let's discuss! For instance, what do you think about using the above-linked image as a source for a new header pic? CapnZapp ( talk) 11:18, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
No objections to suggested pic? Good. Uploading now ( File:Detectives_Harry_Bosch_and_Jerry_Edgar.jpg) and cropping to File:Detective_Harry_Bosch.jpg. CapnZapp ( talk) 17:01, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
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Maybe a spoiler warning would be appropriate...? It contains several details from the stories of the books. 83.145.61.253 22:47, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Having read several of these novels, I'm confused about the status of the daughter Maddie. In "City of Bones" (2002), it says that Bosch has no children. Yet in "Nine Dragons" (2009) he has a teenage daughter. Can anyone clear up this apparent discrepancy? Lazyzee ( talk) 16:06, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
The current infobox pic is kind of washed out with poor lightning, and parts of the face is obscured. I'm sure a better screen shot can be procured. CapnZapp ( talk) 10:01, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Done – CapnZapp Maybe it can, but not on my telly / not easily. For the moment, I have lifted the exposure on the existing one, and hope you like the change. Best wishes DBaK ( talk) 20:49, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
Do two reverts count as an edit war?" - Are you saying you'll stop at two?
Anyway, a photo of Titus Welliver in character as Harry Bosch is clearly more relevant to this article than a photo of Welliver out of character." - First off, I hope you realize they're the same person. Second, there is nothing in the current photo to show that it's specically a scene from Bosch. It could be from any show or movie Welliver has been in. If it wasn't such a tight frame and instead had more visual cues from the show, that would help. Oh, and maybe not having half his obscured would be a big help as well. Not sure why you're so dead set on this image, it's just a screen shot... almost any screen shot of him from the show would be better. Meanwhile, I added an image where you can actually see the guy's face! It's certainly more helpful than the current image, whether he's in character or not.
Even the fact that he's sucking on a cigarette is useful information." - Lolz! No... it's not. - wolf 21:26, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
Again, a picture of him smoking doesn't inform the reader about this character. He smoked early in the show, then quit. It's not as if it had any impact on the character during the series, nor did it play any part of any storyline in the series. Smoking is not even mentioned anywhere in the article. Therefore, it's not worth retaining this image, just because he's seen smoking in it, as opposed to an image where the reader can actually see the guy's entire face.
You say he's wearing a suit and his hair is shorter. So what? a) The difference in hair between the two images is negligible, b) his hair is the same as the second iamge at times onscreen anyway, c) he doesn't always wear a suit, (he's not Luther, for example) he also wears casual clothing in the series, and d) I believe he wears a leather jacket on screen at times as well. Other than that, there is nothing in the first image to help inform readers him. It's too close cropped, there's nothing in the background, like; a police car, the squad room, a crime scene, his unique home-on-stilts, or other characters in the series. The image could just as easily be Welliver from another role or IRL.
You've now had two different editors tell you that the image should be changed because his face is obscured in the current one, but as you know, consensus isn't a vote, but about the quality of the arguments supporting a particular position. Between the two images, the article is better served with the second image. But if you are so dead-set against it, then find another that is better than either image, surely you agree that would serve the article even better, no? - wolf 23:25, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
Please, let's not get distracted. The topic at hand is that the current image is poor, and needs replacing. Specifically: please find an image where you can clearly see the actor/character's face. Everything else is secondary, and at most a matter of personal preference should we ever have several images to choose from that meets this basic requirement. But we can resume these discussions if and when we get to that point. CapnZapp ( talk) 01:42, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
The current picture isn't good, and I'm removing it until we can find a replacement.
This way, the current picture won't be left standing just because we can't agree on which pic to use.
Let's start fresh, with no picture. Any pictures where Wellivers face can be clearly seen are welcome. CapnZapp ( talk) 11:29, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
I'm pinging you User:Lamro on the assumption you genuinely thought you were fixing a mistake without seeing this talk section. If you have no opinion on what picture to use, please undo your restoration until discussion has finished. If you do have an opinion, let's discuss! For instance, what do you think about using the above-linked image as a source for a new header pic? CapnZapp ( talk) 11:18, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
No objections to suggested pic? Good. Uploading now ( File:Detectives_Harry_Bosch_and_Jerry_Edgar.jpg) and cropping to File:Detective_Harry_Bosch.jpg. CapnZapp ( talk) 17:01, 30 October 2023 (UTC)