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Born 1965? according to Index NZ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hugo999 ( talk • contribs) 14:01, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
A an unregistered user has been editing this article, removing several paragraphs, and saying that they are a staff member of Harete Hipango. If this is you, then as a person employed by the subject of the article to edit it, you have a conflict of interest. This does not mean you cannot be involved in the article, but you must follow Wikipedia's Conflict of Interest guidelines which are at WP:COI. In particular:
I see in a recent edit you wrote, "[Harete Hipango has]stated that much of the information in the "Controveries" section is false, and is causing a lot of distress to her family."
The clearer you can explain, preferably with evidence, why information in the article is inaccurate or not neutral, the more likely it is that the article can be accurately updated. As your edits so far haven't followed these policies and guidelines, the IP address you work from has been blocked for two weeks, but you can edit Wikipedia again if you create an account. Yours, HenryCrun15 ( talk) 05:38, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
means representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic. How does the article need to be amended for this to be met? Because if there isn't anything that can or need to be amended, then the tag must go. Schwede 66 18:16, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
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See WP:CSECTION. Wikipedia articles should generally not have sections headed Criticism/Controversy or similar. The material should be integrated into the main body of the article.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 08:09, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
Similar moves can be made for the other material under Controversies that needs to be moved. Under the heading 2021 return to parliament, there is already a sentence describing how other National Party MP's don't like her - so the controversies that occurred post 2021 should fit comfortably under that sentence. Manifiscently ( talk) 23:35, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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Suggest change this sentence in the Intro: Hipango served as an MP from 2017 to 2020 but did not receive a seat in the 2020 general election. After National MP Nick Smith resigned, she re-entered Parliament in June 2021 as his replacement.
To: Hipango served as MP for Whanganui from 2017 to 2020 but was defeated in the 2020 general election. However, after National MP Nick Smith resigned in May 2021, she re-entered Parliament in June 2021 as a list MP. Manifiscently ( talk) 09:08, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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Break section in into two sections by changing this heading 2020 loss of seat, and subsequent return in 2021 into two headings as follows:
2020 loss of seat
At the 2020 general election, Hipango was defeated in Whanganui by Labour's Steph Lewis by a margin of 8,191 votes.[19] Hipango was ranked 21st on National's party list, but this was not high enough to receive a seat at the election. Hipango was the highest-ranked list candidate who did not enter parliament after the 2020 election.
2021 return as list MP
In May 2021, National list MP Nick Smith announced that he would resign. As the highest-ranked person on National's party list not in parliament, Hipango was automatically his replacement.[20] Hipango re-entered parliament on 11 June 2021.[21][22] She took on Smith's electoral reform and research and science portfolios, as well as the portfolio of Māori tourism that she had held previously, but other policy work for the party previously undertaken by Smith was taken on by a more senior MP.[23][15] .... Manifiscently ( talk) 09:24, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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Add the following section to Controversies section, below 'Inappropriate spending allegations' but above 'Anti-vaccination campaign'
On 22 June 2021, a post stating "Great to see you back in the House Harete, and making a speech too!" appeared on Hipango's Facebook page from herself. [1]. It has been alleged that she "forgot to use her fake account" when creating this post. [2] 101.100.128.20 ( talk) 21:28, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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Under 2020 general election, remove this sentence:
Hipango was the highest-ranked list candidate who did not enter parliament after the 2020 election.
It is rendered unnecessary (and repetitive) by the following sentence which occurs a little further down the page:
As the highest-ranked person on National's party list not in parliament, Hipango was automatically his replacement. Manifiscently ( talk) 23:41, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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Change this sentence:
On 27 January, Radio New Zealand reported that Hipango had asked a member of her staff to edit her Wikipedia biography to remove mention of her attendance at these rallies and that she now regretted this request
to read...
On 27 January, Radio New Zealand reported that Hipango had asked a member of her staff to edit her Wikipedia biography to remove any mention of negative or controversial issues Hipango was involved in, including her attendance at these rallies. The staff member deleted the Controversies section of her wikipedia page four times before Hipango publicly advised that she now regretted this request.
This wording clarifies that Hipango's attempt to edit her wikipedia page was actually carried out. Manifiscently ( talk) 23:53, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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As per discussion on Talk page, move this para (currently under Controversies)...
In 2020, Hipango posted an image on Facebook of Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern overlayed text with quote marks of a quote Ardern did not make. Hipango denied any wrongdoing, telling the Whanganui Chronicle the image was "a construction of key words aligned with Jacinda Ardern."
and place it under this para:
At the 2020 general election, Hipango was defeated in Whanganui by Labour's Steph Lewis by a margin of 8,191 votes.[20] Hipango was ranked 21st on National's party list, but this was not high enough to receive a seat at the election. Hipango was the highest-ranked list candidate who did not enter parliament after the 2020 election. Manifiscently ( talk) 00:03, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi team, last night I did a bit of an effort to bulk out the information in her early life and pre-Parliament section. A large part of her early and personal life section was her whakapapa. I think this is a good way to retain the information that was there, whilst also acknowledging the importance of whakapapa in te ao Māori. I'd love wider feedback on it, because I acted unilaterally on it. Nauseous Man ( talk) 01:07, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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Replace this sentence:
In 2020, Hipango posted an image on Facebook of Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern overlaid with the text of a quote falsely attributed to Ardern. Hipango denied any wrongdoing, telling the Whanganui Chronicle "It is not a false quote ... It is a construction of key words aligned with Jacinda Ardern."
with this:
In September 2020, in the run-up to the election, Hipango posted an image on Facebook of Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern overlaid with the text of a quote falsely attributed to Ardern. Hipango denied any wrongdoing, telling the Whanganui Chronicle "It is not a false quote ... It is a construction of key words aligned with Jacinda Ardern." The post was subsequently removed from Facebook by independent fact-checkers. [1] Manifiscently ( talk) 23:16, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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Replace the heading Anti-vaccination campaign with Anti-vaccination stance.
She does not appear to be part of or belong to a campaign, but apparently supports the stance taken by anti-vaxxers. And the page is about her, not about a campaign she may support. Manifiscently ( talk) 01:22, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
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She is NOT the M.P. for Whanganui. She is a list M.P. 122.59.11.43 ( talk) 23:41, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
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After this sentence in the Intro:
Hipango served as MP for Whanganui from 2017 to 2020 but was defeated in the 2020 general election. However, after National MP Nick Smith resigned in May 2021, she re-entered Parliament in June 2021 as a list MP.
Add the following summary of the article:
As a practicing Catholic, during her first term in parliament, she opposed the the End of Life Choice Act 2019 and the Abortion Legislation Act 2020. She also used the internet and social media to make public statements on other issues which put her offside with many of her National Party colleagues. Manifiscently ( talk) 01:59, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
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The line starting:
On 27 January, Hipango acknowledged she had asked a member of her staff to edit her Wikipedia biography ...
should have the year 2022 added to the date, to read On 27 January 2022, ...
Its existing position in the article, with this statement appears under a heading 2021 return to parliament suggests this event occurred in 2021, which is incorrect. This line probably needs to appear under a 2022 year heading, perhaps even appearing in a separate section, though this hardly seems worth having its own separate section heading. This would not be necessary if the headings for the earlier events were omitted and the events just listed in chronological order, though that might reduce the accessibility and readability of the article, as the article appears better with the headings it now has. Where the line is at the moment it is out of place, but it doesn't seem to fit comfortably elsewhere either. - Cameron Dewe ( talk) 11:19, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
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In the second sentence of the introduction, "currently" is spelled "currrently", with three "r"s. Please fix the spelling. 122.150.71.249 ( talk) 00:22, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
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Born 1965? according to Index NZ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hugo999 ( talk • contribs) 14:01, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
A an unregistered user has been editing this article, removing several paragraphs, and saying that they are a staff member of Harete Hipango. If this is you, then as a person employed by the subject of the article to edit it, you have a conflict of interest. This does not mean you cannot be involved in the article, but you must follow Wikipedia's Conflict of Interest guidelines which are at WP:COI. In particular:
I see in a recent edit you wrote, "[Harete Hipango has]stated that much of the information in the "Controveries" section is false, and is causing a lot of distress to her family."
The clearer you can explain, preferably with evidence, why information in the article is inaccurate or not neutral, the more likely it is that the article can be accurately updated. As your edits so far haven't followed these policies and guidelines, the IP address you work from has been blocked for two weeks, but you can edit Wikipedia again if you create an account. Yours, HenryCrun15 ( talk) 05:38, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
means representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic. How does the article need to be amended for this to be met? Because if there isn't anything that can or need to be amended, then the tag must go. Schwede 66 18:16, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
I have added a {{ COI editnotice}} to the top of the page and moved the {{ Connected contributor |User1=202.22.30.101}} just below it, so that these notices are apparent at the top of the Talk page. However, upon reviewing the contributions from 202.22.30.101 I notice there are several other articles about MP's and other NZ parliamentary service related articles that have also been edited from this IP address since 2017. In a number of cases those edits have been quickly modified and sometimes promptly reverted. In one case, the editor seeks to make a correction to an article and in the process even admits to knowing of having a conflict of interest in the edit summary. So I am wondering if similar notices should also be added to other articles that anonymous editors sharing this IP address have previously contributed to. Those notices would serve as a reminder to related parties, or those with a conflict of interest, how to have an article modified and also alert other editors of an IP address that may generate Conflict of Interest edit requests. - Cameron Dewe ( talk) 08:54, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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See WP:CSECTION. Wikipedia articles should generally not have sections headed Criticism/Controversy or similar. The material should be integrated into the main body of the article.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 08:09, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
Similar moves can be made for the other material under Controversies that needs to be moved. Under the heading 2021 return to parliament, there is already a sentence describing how other National Party MP's don't like her - so the controversies that occurred post 2021 should fit comfortably under that sentence. Manifiscently ( talk) 23:35, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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Suggest change this sentence in the Intro: Hipango served as an MP from 2017 to 2020 but did not receive a seat in the 2020 general election. After National MP Nick Smith resigned, she re-entered Parliament in June 2021 as his replacement.
To: Hipango served as MP for Whanganui from 2017 to 2020 but was defeated in the 2020 general election. However, after National MP Nick Smith resigned in May 2021, she re-entered Parliament in June 2021 as a list MP. Manifiscently ( talk) 09:08, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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Break section in into two sections by changing this heading 2020 loss of seat, and subsequent return in 2021 into two headings as follows:
2020 loss of seat
At the 2020 general election, Hipango was defeated in Whanganui by Labour's Steph Lewis by a margin of 8,191 votes.[19] Hipango was ranked 21st on National's party list, but this was not high enough to receive a seat at the election. Hipango was the highest-ranked list candidate who did not enter parliament after the 2020 election.
2021 return as list MP
In May 2021, National list MP Nick Smith announced that he would resign. As the highest-ranked person on National's party list not in parliament, Hipango was automatically his replacement.[20] Hipango re-entered parliament on 11 June 2021.[21][22] She took on Smith's electoral reform and research and science portfolios, as well as the portfolio of Māori tourism that she had held previously, but other policy work for the party previously undertaken by Smith was taken on by a more senior MP.[23][15] .... Manifiscently ( talk) 09:24, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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Add the following section to Controversies section, below 'Inappropriate spending allegations' but above 'Anti-vaccination campaign'
On 22 June 2021, a post stating "Great to see you back in the House Harete, and making a speech too!" appeared on Hipango's Facebook page from herself. [1]. It has been alleged that she "forgot to use her fake account" when creating this post. [2] 101.100.128.20 ( talk) 21:28, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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Under 2020 general election, remove this sentence:
Hipango was the highest-ranked list candidate who did not enter parliament after the 2020 election.
It is rendered unnecessary (and repetitive) by the following sentence which occurs a little further down the page:
As the highest-ranked person on National's party list not in parliament, Hipango was automatically his replacement. Manifiscently ( talk) 23:41, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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Change this sentence:
On 27 January, Radio New Zealand reported that Hipango had asked a member of her staff to edit her Wikipedia biography to remove mention of her attendance at these rallies and that she now regretted this request
to read...
On 27 January, Radio New Zealand reported that Hipango had asked a member of her staff to edit her Wikipedia biography to remove any mention of negative or controversial issues Hipango was involved in, including her attendance at these rallies. The staff member deleted the Controversies section of her wikipedia page four times before Hipango publicly advised that she now regretted this request.
This wording clarifies that Hipango's attempt to edit her wikipedia page was actually carried out. Manifiscently ( talk) 23:53, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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As per discussion on Talk page, move this para (currently under Controversies)...
In 2020, Hipango posted an image on Facebook of Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern overlayed text with quote marks of a quote Ardern did not make. Hipango denied any wrongdoing, telling the Whanganui Chronicle the image was "a construction of key words aligned with Jacinda Ardern."
and place it under this para:
At the 2020 general election, Hipango was defeated in Whanganui by Labour's Steph Lewis by a margin of 8,191 votes.[20] Hipango was ranked 21st on National's party list, but this was not high enough to receive a seat at the election. Hipango was the highest-ranked list candidate who did not enter parliament after the 2020 election. Manifiscently ( talk) 00:03, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi team, last night I did a bit of an effort to bulk out the information in her early life and pre-Parliament section. A large part of her early and personal life section was her whakapapa. I think this is a good way to retain the information that was there, whilst also acknowledging the importance of whakapapa in te ao Māori. I'd love wider feedback on it, because I acted unilaterally on it. Nauseous Man ( talk) 01:07, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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Replace this sentence:
In 2020, Hipango posted an image on Facebook of Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern overlaid with the text of a quote falsely attributed to Ardern. Hipango denied any wrongdoing, telling the Whanganui Chronicle "It is not a false quote ... It is a construction of key words aligned with Jacinda Ardern."
with this:
In September 2020, in the run-up to the election, Hipango posted an image on Facebook of Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern overlaid with the text of a quote falsely attributed to Ardern. Hipango denied any wrongdoing, telling the Whanganui Chronicle "It is not a false quote ... It is a construction of key words aligned with Jacinda Ardern." The post was subsequently removed from Facebook by independent fact-checkers. [1] Manifiscently ( talk) 23:16, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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Replace the heading Anti-vaccination campaign with Anti-vaccination stance.
She does not appear to be part of or belong to a campaign, but apparently supports the stance taken by anti-vaxxers. And the page is about her, not about a campaign she may support. Manifiscently ( talk) 01:22, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
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She is NOT the M.P. for Whanganui. She is a list M.P. 122.59.11.43 ( talk) 23:41, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
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After this sentence in the Intro:
Hipango served as MP for Whanganui from 2017 to 2020 but was defeated in the 2020 general election. However, after National MP Nick Smith resigned in May 2021, she re-entered Parliament in June 2021 as a list MP.
Add the following summary of the article:
As a practicing Catholic, during her first term in parliament, she opposed the the End of Life Choice Act 2019 and the Abortion Legislation Act 2020. She also used the internet and social media to make public statements on other issues which put her offside with many of her National Party colleagues. Manifiscently ( talk) 01:59, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
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The line starting:
On 27 January, Hipango acknowledged she had asked a member of her staff to edit her Wikipedia biography ...
should have the year 2022 added to the date, to read On 27 January 2022, ...
Its existing position in the article, with this statement appears under a heading 2021 return to parliament suggests this event occurred in 2021, which is incorrect. This line probably needs to appear under a 2022 year heading, perhaps even appearing in a separate section, though this hardly seems worth having its own separate section heading. This would not be necessary if the headings for the earlier events were omitted and the events just listed in chronological order, though that might reduce the accessibility and readability of the article, as the article appears better with the headings it now has. Where the line is at the moment it is out of place, but it doesn't seem to fit comfortably elsewhere either. - Cameron Dewe ( talk) 11:19, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
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In the second sentence of the introduction, "currently" is spelled "currrently", with three "r"s. Please fix the spelling. 122.150.71.249 ( talk) 00:22, 2 February 2022 (UTC)