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Zoo director Thane Maynard stated, "The child was being dragged around ... His head was banging on concrete.
I did not notice this happening in the video clips shown on CTV News. Do any of our sources include a clip showing this happened so we can witness the speed of impact? Ranze ( talk) 22:01, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
I saw the drag footage and would not call it rough. Video is unusual for Wikipedia. There is the question of who holds the rights to it and whether it would be fair use. I would be more interested in seeing any headbashing since that is more potentially injurious. It takes minimal force to move someone across water. Ranze ( talk) 04:18, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
I just consolidated a new category commons:Category:Gorilla_gorilla_in_Cincinnati_Zoo and was wondering if anyone is familiar enough with Harambe to know if he is in any of these or not. I'm not good with faces. Ranze ( talk) 06:21, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to Death of Harambe. Most !voters here seem to agree on moving the article to something referencing the gorilla's death, and "Death of Harambe" was the idea with the most consensus behind it. (closed by a page mover) Omni Flames ( talk) 00:43, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
Harambe →
Harambe (gorilla) – location for disambiguation, name could also refer to
Disney's Animal Kingdom#Africa or
Harambee stuff or the 1988 song he was named after.
Ranze (
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Steel1943 (
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*Against. Moving a page during an AfD debate is confusing and provocative. Wait and see if the article survives.
WWGB (
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01:43, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
I think the above renaming conversation is completely defunct, considering that it practically undermines the failed AfD that took place simultaneously. However, we should gather consensus for whether or not we want this article to be about the animal, or the incident that concerns the animal. I'd like to open that up for discussion now. DARTHBOTTO talk• cont 01:50, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
The names are public knowledge in multiple reliable sources. Is there some reason we are not naming them? -- Green C 14:53, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
There's also the veiled death threats against the mother: "Some animal lovers even suggested she should have been shot and killed instead of the gorilla Harambe." I don't think Wikipedia wants to be held liable. — Wylie pedia 02:22, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved as clear consensus has been established. ( closed by non-admin page mover) — Music1201 talk 16:06, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
Death of Harambe →
Killing of Harambe – more of our sources refer to the gorilla's killing than his death. If he had died of natural causes then this incident would not be notable. The response here is to the gorilla's killing not his death so this would be more accurate.
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I feel that there needs to be at least a little bit of information about the Death of Harambe as an internet meme. http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/harambe-the-gorilla-s-death
73.223.146.233 ( talk) 19:45, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
Does this Gorilla seriously need it's own wikipedia page? It will be forgotten in a few weeks like that Cecil thing. Online global lynch mob does not equate to note worthiness 130.195.253.76 ( talk) 01:01, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
I agree, this will be forgotten, the Internet Is just over reacting again. Seriously, Gorillas are killed every day by illegal hunting, Yet we don't care out that, This is stupid and i don't care about it at all, You are all overreacting, Get it together — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C0:C700:A540:5921:8C58:17F9:4BCF ( talk) 23:40, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
This page is extremely biased and unprofessional. These facts are not cited, obviously, since the editor of this page has clearly not been educated in this incident. Kayjaylew ( talk) 04:28, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
WE SHOULD CHANGE IT TO THE MURDER OF HARAMBE. end of discussion. #RipHarambe — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harambe2016 ( talk • contribs) 17:57, August 15, 2016 (UTC)
I think that, given the significance of the meme and the relevance to the killing, 'Dicks out for Harambe' should be added to this page. It has a strong social media presence, and there are news articles from reputable websites documenting the movement.
I suggest the addition of the sentence: "The killing provoked discussion in internet communities, prompting the creation of a social movement 'Dicks out for Harambe' in memorial for the slain gorilla."
cited with this article: http://www.dailydot.com/unclick/dicks-out-for-harambe/
added after the sentence: "The incident was recorded... where the video went viral" in the 'Reactions' section. 72.208.63.239 ( talk) 21:27, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
Has anyone tried to add it, is anyone opposing it? Also the WaPo for a third reliable sources. NYMag's assertion of notability ("Pervasive") could be the thing to say. -- Green C 13:12, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
If you look at the original interview with Goodall, she does not say she "believed the killing was justified under the circumstances," nor does she conclude Harambe "needed to be killed". She says "life and death decisions sometimes have to be made". Yahoo changed the title of their article to Says Zoo Had No Choice, but she didn't even say that. She simply retracted the statement that the gorilla was trying to protect the child. Morganaticity ( talk) 22:29, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed the article is locked right now, presumably to prevent vandalism. I propose that a link to Bokito_(gorilla)'s page be added to the "See also" section; there was quite a stir in the Dutch media over him and although he was not killed, the incident surrounding Bokito seems similar, and sparked public debates similar to those surrounding Harambe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.57.37.104 ( talk) 23:10, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
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change "in which a worker shot and killed a 17-year-old Harambe" to "in which a worker shot and killed the 17-year-old Harambe" think the reason for that is pretty clear: it's THE harambe and not just A harambe 2003:D2:CBD1:2286:155E:D043:1F71:242B ( talk) 23:24, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
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Old: In Australia, people joked about supporting Harambe as a write-in candidate on the ballot for the election of Prime Minister.
Suggested replacement: In Australia, people joked about supporting Harambe as a write-in candidate on the ballot for the federal election.
Reason: In Australia, there is no election for the role of Prime Minister. You instead vote for a local representative who may or may not represent a party.
Just a small nitpick :)
Tf2manu994 ( talk) 08:36, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks to those keeping this page sane. The traffic to this page it fairly high, it even made the WP:TOP25 this week (at #25) which is quite surprising for such a bizarre meme.-- Milowent • has spoken 21:23, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
So I know Wikipedia is super progressive and sensitive about racism, but it's clear to me that this article lacks information about the enormous amount of racism allegations in the aftermath of the killing of Harambe, claiming it was a racist motivated killing. Just a few of the sources: [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] including celeberties and Twitter users. Beatitudinem ( talk) 19:52, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
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the title should be
the assassination of harambe Godblessisrael420 ( talk) 04:23, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
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The section about australians joking about writing in Harambe, should say TheIR Federal Election to make it more clear.
2601:405:4202:C7F0:2C93:774D:318E:7A82 ( talk) 08:10, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KIMXGElC7Q 71.8.148.148 ( talk) 20:46, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
There are two instances in the subsection Music of songs titled "Harambe" that do not mention the gorilla in the lyrics. The seem like nothing more than opportunism, trying to capitalise on the dead ape. I deleted them as having no relevance to Harambe, but another editor insists they are named Harambe and so should appear. I seek the thoughts of other editors on the relevance of this content. WWGB ( talk) 03:17, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
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I used this page as recording practice:
(blanket) ( talk) 00:38, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
It's not bad really you have a good voice. Some stumbles or pauses over words, a couple that need better pronunciation, but yeah, not bad at all. Good work hope you keep narrating. The article is still being worked on (I just redid the Internet meme section to be more coherent). Too bad we couldn't take the Incident section reading and use that in a box for that section. It has a dramatic narrative and short to listen. -- Green C 04:03, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
Is "killing" the appropriate term for the title here? I feel like "shooting" might be more appropriate, unless it fundamentally changes the title. Radioactivated ( talk) 21:12, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
The article is ambiguous about the status of the child. Is there a reason for this? Hamsterlopithecus ( talk) 03:55, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
Hey, just a head's up - I removed the Filthy Frank mention for two reasons. The first is that Forbes article was one of their blog posts. These have no editorial oversight and are marked with the phrase "Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own.", which indicates that. Second, there has been a pretty concentrated attempt to add Filthy Frank to various Wikipedia articles in the last year or two. Chef (film) has been a popular target and it looks like this was also one that was tagged. Articles on this person have been repeatedly deleted, to the point where Filthy Frank and a few of the other names have been salted. Two of his links have been added to the blacklist because people kept readding them after repeatedly being told that they didn't belong. Apparently the fandom is getting obsessed with adding him to Wikipedia, if the AfD Reddit post is any indication. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 09:17, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
The page should have an additional category about the primatologist view on harambe and whether he was actually trying to kill the toddler or not Erin Dunn ( talk) 19:14, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
On October 27,2016, a gay music group called the lavender hag squad did a tour to honour the life of the gorilla. because the child was pat haggs's son in law — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack Leena ( talk • contribs) 17:49, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
Change it to president. SplashyFlame ( talk) 21:11, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/11/17/report-cincy-zoos-gorilla-barrier-wasnt-compliance/94025422/ Not sure where to put this in the article, or whether to include it at all, since all the report concludes is that the enclosure was safe until it wasn't. Mapsax ( talk) 13:23, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/52934799@N03/7644076958/. MB298 ( talk) 21:07, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
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Please change: A number of primatologists and conservationists wrote later that the zoo had no other choice under the circumstances, and that it highlighted the danger of zoo animals in close proximity to humans and the need for better standards of care.
To: A number of primatologists and conservationists wrote later that the zoo had no other choice under the circumstances, and that it highlighted the danger of zoo animals in proximity to humans and the need for better standards of care.
because using "close" before "proximity" is redundant. 24.237.27.120 ( talk) 18:35, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Not done "Close proximity" is a relatively common usage, and was used by one of the references we cite.
Meters (
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It's redundant to add "proximity" to close, but not redundant to add "close" to proximity :) There are degrees of proximity not all necessarily meaning "close" (very close, near, outer proximity). Since proximity deals only with distance (outer proximity is a more scientific terminology which might include solar systems), the word "close" creates a subjective human-scale sense of nearby, thus "close proximity to humans". -- Green C 01:36, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
My understanding that in the first few hours after the shooting, before the race of the boy was generally known, there were criticisms of the shooting of the gorilla based on the false assumption that the boy was white. http://fusionlacedillusions.com/index.php/2016/05/31/racism-afercan-americans-think-cincinnati-zoo-killed-17-year-old-male-gorilla/ Once corrected, that portion of the criticism quickly subsided, although there were continued objections in general. If reliable sources (Twitter, etc) could be found, I think it would be useful to reveal those initial objectors and objections: The ones who thought that the killing of Harambe was bad ONLY BECAUSE they thought the victim kid was white. 67.5.215.37 ( talk) 20:10, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
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harambe was 420lbs actually 185.74.235.126 ( talk) 10:05, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Why do things on this page keep getting removed for being unimportant despite people being much more interested in them than whole articles on other parts of the wiki? For example, I added in a reference to a tribute song a YouTube channel made for Harambe which has 9 million views. But on the other hand, we have plenty of pages on this encyclopedia dedicated to planets and plants and bacteria that probably less than 1 million people are interested in. And that's a page, not just a quick reference! I think this wiki needs to start prioritising about what people are actually interested in. I'm sorry, but I think this hyperlink: Harambe Tribute Song will receive a lot more interest than this: Cryptobacterium. Consider reverting the latest edit. JohnSmith678 ( talk) 19:59, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this warrants inclusion, but Harambe's grandmother Josephine died on January 18, 2017. (Sources: PEOPLE.com, NY Daily News). Mostly it's getting local coverage, but if anything it's something to watch out for in case this becomes a thing like her grandson's death did. Falling Gravity 05:02, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
That article has a link to this article, and the two stories are similar in that they are about well-known animals that got killed, and the respective public responses to them. It can be said that Harambe is the "emotional successor" of Cecil. Leo1pard ( talk) 13:45, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
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Change ( /həˈrɑːmbeɪ/ hə-RAHM-bay) to ( /həˈrɑːmbeɪ/ hə-RAHM-bay, or /həˈræmbeɪ/ hə-RAM-bay in the UK) Haroldrobertdixon ( talk) 11:12, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
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Please add the following. By possibly adding more subsections to the Responses section.
Petition and Legal ActionFor example, a resident of Cincinnati, Ohio started a petition on change.org titled 'Justice for Harambe' which demanded that the child's parents be 'held accountable for the lack of supervision and negligence that caused Harambe to lose his life. The petition also demanded that there should be an investigation at the child's home to see if there is any evidence raising a cause for concern. [50] Social workers investigated the home and nothing was found to be out of the ordinary. After the incident[51] Although the petition has 500,000 signatures today, the Hamilton County Prosecutor's office decided to not press charges against the mother for Harambe's death, based on the notion that a '3 year old can easily scamper away quickly and unseen.' [51]
Candlelight VigilsSeveral vigils took place to honor Harambe's death. As much as 3,400 people had attended a candlelight vigil at Hyde Park in London, United Kingdom. [52] Anthony Seta, an activist who represents the Cincinnati Collective for Animal Rights and Education, organized a vigil at the Cincinnati Zoo to honor the loss of Harambe. In an interview by the press, he emphasized that animals feel and have emotions just like humans do. Anthony Seta succinctly stated "I'm not here to decide what was right and what was wrong, the fact is that a gorilla who just celebrated his birthday has been killed. I am out here to speak to remember him, because he can't do it" [53]
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"Prosecutor: no charges against mother in Harambe's death" WCPO Retrieved on April 23, 2017
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"Candles out for Harambe: 3,400 people to attend candelit vigil for Harambe the Gorilla in London" Retrieved on April 23, 2017
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"Vigil called at Cincinnati Zoo in tribute to slain gorilla" Los Angeles Times Retrieved on April 23, 2017
Maci0192 (
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Have the zoo said why the fence around the gorilla enclosure was only 3 feet high? Has it been replaced with a higher fence? Jim Michael ( talk) 19:21, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
One would think that looked into the fence, they've done a major expansion creating an indoor viewing area behind glass walls. -- Green C 16:09, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
The Western lowland gorilla ( Gorilla gorilla gorilla) is the nominate subspecies of the Western gorilla ( Gorilla gorilla). Leo1pard ( talk) 15:03, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
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i want to help improve this page The first wikifixer ( talk) 20:35, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
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The Infobox on Harambe should be moved to his biography section and maybe aligned left. Also Bob Marley should be linked in Harambe section. 134.61.82.150 ( talk) 10:33, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
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I would like to edit this because some information is inaccurate FloppyDog343 ( talk) 20:07, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
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Change "22 months ago, to 23 months ago." Then as of May 28th this year it will need to be 2 years ago." Mperry1993 ( talk) 01:17, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
We need to put that in the Popular Culture section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.226.92.194 ( talk) 21:43, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
The pirate metal band Rumahoy recorded the song, "Harambe the Pirate Gorilla", for their album, Time II: Party. RUMAHOY - Harambe The Pirate Gorilla (Official Lyric Video) | Napalm Records — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.16.141.173 ( talk) 01:28, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
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Does anyone have evidence this happened in 2016? As far as i'm aware, I experienced this event some ~24 years ago (falling into the pen, nearly drowning, being dragged, crawling my way to safety). Perhaps it was a "Quantum Experience", I think it's more likely the years on Wikipedia are being fabricated. 24.138.157.225 ( talk) 22:28, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
To add to this article: when exactly did the mother become aware that her son had climbed into the gorilla enclosure, and was the reason he was able to do this partly because she was distracted by her three other children? 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 10:22, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
REACTION section This video names the woman that filmed the incident https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUxVNMuoGgA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.196.169.205 ( talk) 18:04, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
This is a section for discussing the bold removal of "however", which has been restored until there is consensus for its removal. I look forward to working with you on your proposed removal which is controversial and does not currently have consensus. This wording has been in place for years and never been a problem with other editors. I believe Harambe's action of not following the females into the building is highly significant and the emphasis with the use of "however" is justified by subsequent course of events. -- Green C 19:06, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
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he now died 5 years ago since 2021-5 = 2016 2601:98B:C100:6430:7CBE:A60F:5E2F:5AD ( talk) 15:59, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
@ GreenC: You are correct that "aggressive animal behavior" is a reason for animal euthanasia. Such cases might include a dog found unsuitable for adoption because it is easily provoked to bite humans. This case has more similarity to a police officer entering a house with a warrant and shooting the owner's aggressive dog. More relevant terminology might be defense of others.
Yes, the decision was briefly considered before it was executed, but that doesn't change the nature of these events. It was an emergent situation, and Harambe was a healthy adult gorilla, behaving as one might expect from a healthy adult gorilla. The term "euthanasia" is reserved for cases where the animal is in some way dysfunctional and unable to live a healthy life.
Please provide a reliable source that refers to this killing as "euthanasia." — Guan aco 03:42, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
An editor has been removing the grabbed and dragged language from the lead section and replacing it with wording such as "cradled" ie. what mothers do with children. As the video shows, the child is dragged through the water at high speed. The wording grabbed and dragged is supported by the New York Times, and the overwhelming majority of sources portray the child as roughly handled. I'm concerned there is an attempt here to push a minority POV that Haramabe gently handled the child and by extension the shooting was not justifiable, or questionable. This POV is not well supported except in minority sources and should not be emphasized in the lead. -- Green C 04:08, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
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Add "(200 kg)" after "440 pound" in Incident section for non-americans Alhrath ( talk) 01:34, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Regarding this deletion [25]. What it "looks like" to you, and what it actually is, are two different things. This was probably the most common meme of the Harambe membes. It was everywhere. The sources confirm it was "pervasive" and "popular" and that is what our article says. That you have a problem with the word "Dicks" is not Wikipedia's problem we do not WP:CENSOR. Simply saying it was a pervasive meme, explaining what it means, including two sources, is sufficient. It is unclear what high bar you require to get past your personal uncomfort with the word Dick - and no, this was not "a teenager" making things up to insert dirty words into the article. -- Green C 14:02, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
Should the article include the "Dicks out for Harambe" meme? -- Green C 15:07, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
It has been in the article for years, without controversy, and was recently deleted by User:Wtqf in this edit and this edit and discussed in the section above without resolution. -- Green C 15:07, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
This poll has nothing to do with the reasons for the edits I made. The issue is not "should this thing be mentioned" but "should we write in an adult way for an educated audience? Wtqf ( talk) 23:35, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
Over the next 10 minutes, Harambe became increasingly "agitated and disoriented" by the screams of onlookers.
occasionally propping him up when he sat, or pushing him down when he stood.
In an interview by the press, he emphasized that animals feel and have emotions just like humans do.
On September 18, 2014, Harambe was transferred to the Cincinnati Zoo and Botanical Garden to learn adult gorilla behavior and join a new social group.
On naming contests for newborn baby gorillas, a teenager made a petition to Dublin Zoo to name a newborn baby gorilla as "Harambe Jr." ("Harambetta" if female) after Dublin Zoo announced the newborn baby gorilla by tweet.
On June 16, 2017, satire news site The Onion featured an article of professional wrestler The Big Show being killed by WWE after a seven-year-old boy wandered into a steel cage during a live event in Indianapolis.
"Dicks out for Harambe"to
"dicks out for Harambe".
One meme is a play on conspiracy theories, such as "Bush did Harambe"
The dead gorilla had 5% support in late July 2016 (ahead of Green Party nominee Jill Stein) and 2% in August 2016 (tied with Stein).
after being daily targeted by trolls
Harambe vs. Capcom
but she believed that zoos "with the highest standards of care" could play an important role.
noting that a tranquilizer dart might have taken five or ten minutes to take effect
the zoo had resumed its accountto
the zoo resumed its account.
A self-described underground culture collective known as Otaku Gang
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The game itself is a fullgame of M.U.G.E.N, a customizable fighting game.
This link is dead. Ꞷ umbolo 09:31, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
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There are several punctuation errors in this article in which commas are outside of the quotation marks. I just wanted to fix them quickly. Commas and periods ALWAYS go inside quotation marks. EmilyWilson2 ( talk) 23:24, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
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Zoo director Thane Maynard stated, "The child was being dragged around ... His head was banging on concrete.
I did not notice this happening in the video clips shown on CTV News. Do any of our sources include a clip showing this happened so we can witness the speed of impact? Ranze ( talk) 22:01, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
I saw the drag footage and would not call it rough. Video is unusual for Wikipedia. There is the question of who holds the rights to it and whether it would be fair use. I would be more interested in seeing any headbashing since that is more potentially injurious. It takes minimal force to move someone across water. Ranze ( talk) 04:18, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
I just consolidated a new category commons:Category:Gorilla_gorilla_in_Cincinnati_Zoo and was wondering if anyone is familiar enough with Harambe to know if he is in any of these or not. I'm not good with faces. Ranze ( talk) 06:21, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to Death of Harambe. Most !voters here seem to agree on moving the article to something referencing the gorilla's death, and "Death of Harambe" was the idea with the most consensus behind it. (closed by a page mover) Omni Flames ( talk) 00:43, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
Harambe →
Harambe (gorilla) – location for disambiguation, name could also refer to
Disney's Animal Kingdom#Africa or
Harambee stuff or the 1988 song he was named after.
Ranze (
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Steel1943 (
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*Against. Moving a page during an AfD debate is confusing and provocative. Wait and see if the article survives.
WWGB (
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I think the above renaming conversation is completely defunct, considering that it practically undermines the failed AfD that took place simultaneously. However, we should gather consensus for whether or not we want this article to be about the animal, or the incident that concerns the animal. I'd like to open that up for discussion now. DARTHBOTTO talk• cont 01:50, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
The names are public knowledge in multiple reliable sources. Is there some reason we are not naming them? -- Green C 14:53, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
There's also the veiled death threats against the mother: "Some animal lovers even suggested she should have been shot and killed instead of the gorilla Harambe." I don't think Wikipedia wants to be held liable. — Wylie pedia 02:22, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved as clear consensus has been established. ( closed by non-admin page mover) — Music1201 talk 16:06, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
Death of Harambe →
Killing of Harambe – more of our sources refer to the gorilla's killing than his death. If he had died of natural causes then this incident would not be notable. The response here is to the gorilla's killing not his death so this would be more accurate.
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I feel that there needs to be at least a little bit of information about the Death of Harambe as an internet meme. http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/harambe-the-gorilla-s-death
73.223.146.233 ( talk) 19:45, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
Does this Gorilla seriously need it's own wikipedia page? It will be forgotten in a few weeks like that Cecil thing. Online global lynch mob does not equate to note worthiness 130.195.253.76 ( talk) 01:01, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
I agree, this will be forgotten, the Internet Is just over reacting again. Seriously, Gorillas are killed every day by illegal hunting, Yet we don't care out that, This is stupid and i don't care about it at all, You are all overreacting, Get it together — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C0:C700:A540:5921:8C58:17F9:4BCF ( talk) 23:40, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
This page is extremely biased and unprofessional. These facts are not cited, obviously, since the editor of this page has clearly not been educated in this incident. Kayjaylew ( talk) 04:28, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
WE SHOULD CHANGE IT TO THE MURDER OF HARAMBE. end of discussion. #RipHarambe — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harambe2016 ( talk • contribs) 17:57, August 15, 2016 (UTC)
I think that, given the significance of the meme and the relevance to the killing, 'Dicks out for Harambe' should be added to this page. It has a strong social media presence, and there are news articles from reputable websites documenting the movement.
I suggest the addition of the sentence: "The killing provoked discussion in internet communities, prompting the creation of a social movement 'Dicks out for Harambe' in memorial for the slain gorilla."
cited with this article: http://www.dailydot.com/unclick/dicks-out-for-harambe/
added after the sentence: "The incident was recorded... where the video went viral" in the 'Reactions' section. 72.208.63.239 ( talk) 21:27, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
Has anyone tried to add it, is anyone opposing it? Also the WaPo for a third reliable sources. NYMag's assertion of notability ("Pervasive") could be the thing to say. -- Green C 13:12, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
If you look at the original interview with Goodall, she does not say she "believed the killing was justified under the circumstances," nor does she conclude Harambe "needed to be killed". She says "life and death decisions sometimes have to be made". Yahoo changed the title of their article to Says Zoo Had No Choice, but she didn't even say that. She simply retracted the statement that the gorilla was trying to protect the child. Morganaticity ( talk) 22:29, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed the article is locked right now, presumably to prevent vandalism. I propose that a link to Bokito_(gorilla)'s page be added to the "See also" section; there was quite a stir in the Dutch media over him and although he was not killed, the incident surrounding Bokito seems similar, and sparked public debates similar to those surrounding Harambe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.57.37.104 ( talk) 23:10, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
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change "in which a worker shot and killed a 17-year-old Harambe" to "in which a worker shot and killed the 17-year-old Harambe" think the reason for that is pretty clear: it's THE harambe and not just A harambe 2003:D2:CBD1:2286:155E:D043:1F71:242B ( talk) 23:24, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
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Old: In Australia, people joked about supporting Harambe as a write-in candidate on the ballot for the election of Prime Minister.
Suggested replacement: In Australia, people joked about supporting Harambe as a write-in candidate on the ballot for the federal election.
Reason: In Australia, there is no election for the role of Prime Minister. You instead vote for a local representative who may or may not represent a party.
Just a small nitpick :)
Tf2manu994 ( talk) 08:36, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks to those keeping this page sane. The traffic to this page it fairly high, it even made the WP:TOP25 this week (at #25) which is quite surprising for such a bizarre meme.-- Milowent • has spoken 21:23, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
So I know Wikipedia is super progressive and sensitive about racism, but it's clear to me that this article lacks information about the enormous amount of racism allegations in the aftermath of the killing of Harambe, claiming it was a racist motivated killing. Just a few of the sources: [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] including celeberties and Twitter users. Beatitudinem ( talk) 19:52, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
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the title should be
the assassination of harambe Godblessisrael420 ( talk) 04:23, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
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The section about australians joking about writing in Harambe, should say TheIR Federal Election to make it more clear.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KIMXGElC7Q 71.8.148.148 ( talk) 20:46, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
There are two instances in the subsection Music of songs titled "Harambe" that do not mention the gorilla in the lyrics. The seem like nothing more than opportunism, trying to capitalise on the dead ape. I deleted them as having no relevance to Harambe, but another editor insists they are named Harambe and so should appear. I seek the thoughts of other editors on the relevance of this content. WWGB ( talk) 03:17, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
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I used this page as recording practice:
(blanket) ( talk) 00:38, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
It's not bad really you have a good voice. Some stumbles or pauses over words, a couple that need better pronunciation, but yeah, not bad at all. Good work hope you keep narrating. The article is still being worked on (I just redid the Internet meme section to be more coherent). Too bad we couldn't take the Incident section reading and use that in a box for that section. It has a dramatic narrative and short to listen. -- Green C 04:03, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
Is "killing" the appropriate term for the title here? I feel like "shooting" might be more appropriate, unless it fundamentally changes the title. Radioactivated ( talk) 21:12, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
The article is ambiguous about the status of the child. Is there a reason for this? Hamsterlopithecus ( talk) 03:55, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
Hey, just a head's up - I removed the Filthy Frank mention for two reasons. The first is that Forbes article was one of their blog posts. These have no editorial oversight and are marked with the phrase "Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own.", which indicates that. Second, there has been a pretty concentrated attempt to add Filthy Frank to various Wikipedia articles in the last year or two. Chef (film) has been a popular target and it looks like this was also one that was tagged. Articles on this person have been repeatedly deleted, to the point where Filthy Frank and a few of the other names have been salted. Two of his links have been added to the blacklist because people kept readding them after repeatedly being told that they didn't belong. Apparently the fandom is getting obsessed with adding him to Wikipedia, if the AfD Reddit post is any indication. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 09:17, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
The page should have an additional category about the primatologist view on harambe and whether he was actually trying to kill the toddler or not Erin Dunn ( talk) 19:14, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
On October 27,2016, a gay music group called the lavender hag squad did a tour to honour the life of the gorilla. because the child was pat haggs's son in law — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack Leena ( talk • contribs) 17:49, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
Change it to president. SplashyFlame ( talk) 21:11, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/11/17/report-cincy-zoos-gorilla-barrier-wasnt-compliance/94025422/ Not sure where to put this in the article, or whether to include it at all, since all the report concludes is that the enclosure was safe until it wasn't. Mapsax ( talk) 13:23, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/52934799@N03/7644076958/. MB298 ( talk) 21:07, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
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Please change: A number of primatologists and conservationists wrote later that the zoo had no other choice under the circumstances, and that it highlighted the danger of zoo animals in close proximity to humans and the need for better standards of care.
To: A number of primatologists and conservationists wrote later that the zoo had no other choice under the circumstances, and that it highlighted the danger of zoo animals in proximity to humans and the need for better standards of care.
because using "close" before "proximity" is redundant. 24.237.27.120 ( talk) 18:35, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Not done "Close proximity" is a relatively common usage, and was used by one of the references we cite.
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It's redundant to add "proximity" to close, but not redundant to add "close" to proximity :) There are degrees of proximity not all necessarily meaning "close" (very close, near, outer proximity). Since proximity deals only with distance (outer proximity is a more scientific terminology which might include solar systems), the word "close" creates a subjective human-scale sense of nearby, thus "close proximity to humans". -- Green C 01:36, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
My understanding that in the first few hours after the shooting, before the race of the boy was generally known, there were criticisms of the shooting of the gorilla based on the false assumption that the boy was white. http://fusionlacedillusions.com/index.php/2016/05/31/racism-afercan-americans-think-cincinnati-zoo-killed-17-year-old-male-gorilla/ Once corrected, that portion of the criticism quickly subsided, although there were continued objections in general. If reliable sources (Twitter, etc) could be found, I think it would be useful to reveal those initial objectors and objections: The ones who thought that the killing of Harambe was bad ONLY BECAUSE they thought the victim kid was white. 67.5.215.37 ( talk) 20:10, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
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harambe was 420lbs actually 185.74.235.126 ( talk) 10:05, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Why do things on this page keep getting removed for being unimportant despite people being much more interested in them than whole articles on other parts of the wiki? For example, I added in a reference to a tribute song a YouTube channel made for Harambe which has 9 million views. But on the other hand, we have plenty of pages on this encyclopedia dedicated to planets and plants and bacteria that probably less than 1 million people are interested in. And that's a page, not just a quick reference! I think this wiki needs to start prioritising about what people are actually interested in. I'm sorry, but I think this hyperlink: Harambe Tribute Song will receive a lot more interest than this: Cryptobacterium. Consider reverting the latest edit. JohnSmith678 ( talk) 19:59, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this warrants inclusion, but Harambe's grandmother Josephine died on January 18, 2017. (Sources: PEOPLE.com, NY Daily News). Mostly it's getting local coverage, but if anything it's something to watch out for in case this becomes a thing like her grandson's death did. Falling Gravity 05:02, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
That article has a link to this article, and the two stories are similar in that they are about well-known animals that got killed, and the respective public responses to them. It can be said that Harambe is the "emotional successor" of Cecil. Leo1pard ( talk) 13:45, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
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Change ( /həˈrɑːmbeɪ/ hə-RAHM-bay) to ( /həˈrɑːmbeɪ/ hə-RAHM-bay, or /həˈræmbeɪ/ hə-RAM-bay in the UK) Haroldrobertdixon ( talk) 11:12, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
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Please add the following. By possibly adding more subsections to the Responses section.
Petition and Legal ActionFor example, a resident of Cincinnati, Ohio started a petition on change.org titled 'Justice for Harambe' which demanded that the child's parents be 'held accountable for the lack of supervision and negligence that caused Harambe to lose his life. The petition also demanded that there should be an investigation at the child's home to see if there is any evidence raising a cause for concern. [50] Social workers investigated the home and nothing was found to be out of the ordinary. After the incident[51] Although the petition has 500,000 signatures today, the Hamilton County Prosecutor's office decided to not press charges against the mother for Harambe's death, based on the notion that a '3 year old can easily scamper away quickly and unseen.' [51]
Candlelight VigilsSeveral vigils took place to honor Harambe's death. As much as 3,400 people had attended a candlelight vigil at Hyde Park in London, United Kingdom. [52] Anthony Seta, an activist who represents the Cincinnati Collective for Animal Rights and Education, organized a vigil at the Cincinnati Zoo to honor the loss of Harambe. In an interview by the press, he emphasized that animals feel and have emotions just like humans do. Anthony Seta succinctly stated "I'm not here to decide what was right and what was wrong, the fact is that a gorilla who just celebrated his birthday has been killed. I am out here to speak to remember him, because he can't do it" [53]
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"Prosecutor: no charges against mother in Harambe's death" WCPO Retrieved on April 23, 2017
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"Candles out for Harambe: 3,400 people to attend candelit vigil for Harambe the Gorilla in London" Retrieved on April 23, 2017
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"Vigil called at Cincinnati Zoo in tribute to slain gorilla" Los Angeles Times Retrieved on April 23, 2017
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Have the zoo said why the fence around the gorilla enclosure was only 3 feet high? Has it been replaced with a higher fence? Jim Michael ( talk) 19:21, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
One would think that looked into the fence, they've done a major expansion creating an indoor viewing area behind glass walls. -- Green C 16:09, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
The Western lowland gorilla ( Gorilla gorilla gorilla) is the nominate subspecies of the Western gorilla ( Gorilla gorilla). Leo1pard ( talk) 15:03, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
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i want to help improve this page The first wikifixer ( talk) 20:35, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
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The Infobox on Harambe should be moved to his biography section and maybe aligned left. Also Bob Marley should be linked in Harambe section. 134.61.82.150 ( talk) 10:33, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
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I would like to edit this because some information is inaccurate FloppyDog343 ( talk) 20:07, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
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Change "22 months ago, to 23 months ago." Then as of May 28th this year it will need to be 2 years ago." Mperry1993 ( talk) 01:17, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
We need to put that in the Popular Culture section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.226.92.194 ( talk) 21:43, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
The pirate metal band Rumahoy recorded the song, "Harambe the Pirate Gorilla", for their album, Time II: Party. RUMAHOY - Harambe The Pirate Gorilla (Official Lyric Video) | Napalm Records — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.16.141.173 ( talk) 01:28, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
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Does anyone have evidence this happened in 2016? As far as i'm aware, I experienced this event some ~24 years ago (falling into the pen, nearly drowning, being dragged, crawling my way to safety). Perhaps it was a "Quantum Experience", I think it's more likely the years on Wikipedia are being fabricated. 24.138.157.225 ( talk) 22:28, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
To add to this article: when exactly did the mother become aware that her son had climbed into the gorilla enclosure, and was the reason he was able to do this partly because she was distracted by her three other children? 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 10:22, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
REACTION section This video names the woman that filmed the incident https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUxVNMuoGgA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.196.169.205 ( talk) 18:04, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
This is a section for discussing the bold removal of "however", which has been restored until there is consensus for its removal. I look forward to working with you on your proposed removal which is controversial and does not currently have consensus. This wording has been in place for years and never been a problem with other editors. I believe Harambe's action of not following the females into the building is highly significant and the emphasis with the use of "however" is justified by subsequent course of events. -- Green C 19:06, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
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he now died 5 years ago since 2021-5 = 2016 2601:98B:C100:6430:7CBE:A60F:5E2F:5AD ( talk) 15:59, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
@ GreenC: You are correct that "aggressive animal behavior" is a reason for animal euthanasia. Such cases might include a dog found unsuitable for adoption because it is easily provoked to bite humans. This case has more similarity to a police officer entering a house with a warrant and shooting the owner's aggressive dog. More relevant terminology might be defense of others.
Yes, the decision was briefly considered before it was executed, but that doesn't change the nature of these events. It was an emergent situation, and Harambe was a healthy adult gorilla, behaving as one might expect from a healthy adult gorilla. The term "euthanasia" is reserved for cases where the animal is in some way dysfunctional and unable to live a healthy life.
Please provide a reliable source that refers to this killing as "euthanasia." — Guan aco 03:42, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
An editor has been removing the grabbed and dragged language from the lead section and replacing it with wording such as "cradled" ie. what mothers do with children. As the video shows, the child is dragged through the water at high speed. The wording grabbed and dragged is supported by the New York Times, and the overwhelming majority of sources portray the child as roughly handled. I'm concerned there is an attempt here to push a minority POV that Haramabe gently handled the child and by extension the shooting was not justifiable, or questionable. This POV is not well supported except in minority sources and should not be emphasized in the lead. -- Green C 04:08, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
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Add "(200 kg)" after "440 pound" in Incident section for non-americans Alhrath ( talk) 01:34, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Regarding this deletion [25]. What it "looks like" to you, and what it actually is, are two different things. This was probably the most common meme of the Harambe membes. It was everywhere. The sources confirm it was "pervasive" and "popular" and that is what our article says. That you have a problem with the word "Dicks" is not Wikipedia's problem we do not WP:CENSOR. Simply saying it was a pervasive meme, explaining what it means, including two sources, is sufficient. It is unclear what high bar you require to get past your personal uncomfort with the word Dick - and no, this was not "a teenager" making things up to insert dirty words into the article. -- Green C 14:02, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
Should the article include the "Dicks out for Harambe" meme? -- Green C 15:07, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
It has been in the article for years, without controversy, and was recently deleted by User:Wtqf in this edit and this edit and discussed in the section above without resolution. -- Green C 15:07, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
This poll has nothing to do with the reasons for the edits I made. The issue is not "should this thing be mentioned" but "should we write in an adult way for an educated audience? Wtqf ( talk) 23:35, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
Over the next 10 minutes, Harambe became increasingly "agitated and disoriented" by the screams of onlookers.
occasionally propping him up when he sat, or pushing him down when he stood.
In an interview by the press, he emphasized that animals feel and have emotions just like humans do.
On September 18, 2014, Harambe was transferred to the Cincinnati Zoo and Botanical Garden to learn adult gorilla behavior and join a new social group.
On naming contests for newborn baby gorillas, a teenager made a petition to Dublin Zoo to name a newborn baby gorilla as "Harambe Jr." ("Harambetta" if female) after Dublin Zoo announced the newborn baby gorilla by tweet.
On June 16, 2017, satire news site The Onion featured an article of professional wrestler The Big Show being killed by WWE after a seven-year-old boy wandered into a steel cage during a live event in Indianapolis.
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"dicks out for Harambe".
One meme is a play on conspiracy theories, such as "Bush did Harambe"
The dead gorilla had 5% support in late July 2016 (ahead of Green Party nominee Jill Stein) and 2% in August 2016 (tied with Stein).
after being daily targeted by trolls
Harambe vs. Capcom
but she believed that zoos "with the highest standards of care" could play an important role.
noting that a tranquilizer dart might have taken five or ten minutes to take effect
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the zoo resumed its account.
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The game itself is a fullgame of M.U.G.E.N, a customizable fighting game.
This link is dead. Ꞷ umbolo 09:31, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
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There are several punctuation errors in this article in which commas are outside of the quotation marks. I just wanted to fix them quickly. Commas and periods ALWAYS go inside quotation marks. EmilyWilson2 ( talk) 23:24, 30 October 2021 (UTC)