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The way the article describes his actions it seems strange that he would have been part of the plot, after all, he was in prison beforehand. Was he perhaps due to be released if the Nazis were overthrown, and given a leadership position? Historian932 ( talk) 14:50, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
There are no citations for any of the sections describing events in World War II. Moreover, much of the description contains romanticized exagerration not appropriate to Wikipedia. Not least, it seems extremely unlikely that it was ever 30 degrees below zero in the southern peninsula of Crimea, and I can find no corroboration for this claim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidlew9 ( talk • contribs) 19:20, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
I notice that "'Selbständiges verantwortliches Handeln': Generalleutnant Hans Graf von Sponeck (1888–1944) und das Schicksal der Juden in der Ukraine, Juni–Dezember 1941" by Erik Grimmer-Solem is cited here (entirely appropriately). For anyone who is working further on the article, This article, also related to Grimmer-Solem's work, is worth a look, especially for its discussion of von Sponeck's posthumous reputation and for Grimmer-Solem's mixed assessment of con Sponeck in the last full paragraph. - Jmabel | Talk 04:27, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
More of the same: http://newsletter.blogs.wesleyan.edu/2014/08/18/grimmer-solem/. - Jmabel | Talk 04:45, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
The French and Spanish wikipedia articles contain translations of the last words ascribed to von Sponeck. They are uncited. This article, and the one on de.wikipedia, do not mention them. This site does contain those words, but I am not sure of its reliability. (As an aside: those words seem to be to be redolent of those of Marshall Ney.)
K.e.coffman, do you have any thoughts on this? Kablammo ( talk) 12:59, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
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Warning: Default sort key "Sponeck, Hans Graf Von" overrides earlier default sort key "Sponeck, Hans Graf von".
The way the article describes his actions it seems strange that he would have been part of the plot, after all, he was in prison beforehand. Was he perhaps due to be released if the Nazis were overthrown, and given a leadership position? Historian932 ( talk) 14:50, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
There are no citations for any of the sections describing events in World War II. Moreover, much of the description contains romanticized exagerration not appropriate to Wikipedia. Not least, it seems extremely unlikely that it was ever 30 degrees below zero in the southern peninsula of Crimea, and I can find no corroboration for this claim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidlew9 ( talk • contribs) 19:20, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
I notice that "'Selbständiges verantwortliches Handeln': Generalleutnant Hans Graf von Sponeck (1888–1944) und das Schicksal der Juden in der Ukraine, Juni–Dezember 1941" by Erik Grimmer-Solem is cited here (entirely appropriately). For anyone who is working further on the article, This article, also related to Grimmer-Solem's work, is worth a look, especially for its discussion of von Sponeck's posthumous reputation and for Grimmer-Solem's mixed assessment of con Sponeck in the last full paragraph. - Jmabel | Talk 04:27, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
More of the same: http://newsletter.blogs.wesleyan.edu/2014/08/18/grimmer-solem/. - Jmabel | Talk 04:45, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
The French and Spanish wikipedia articles contain translations of the last words ascribed to von Sponeck. They are uncited. This article, and the one on de.wikipedia, do not mention them. This site does contain those words, but I am not sure of its reliability. (As an aside: those words seem to be to be redolent of those of Marshall Ney.)
K.e.coffman, do you have any thoughts on this? Kablammo ( talk) 12:59, 15 May 2019 (UTC)