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I removed five names from the list that were not notable or were added by pro-unification users.
There is a definition problem here, which is why I removed the names. Neither President Li or President Chen have done anything that could be construed as betraying the Han race, but they have rejected unification and thus betrayed the idea of "one China". The addition of their names thus reflects a distinct regional (mainland) bias and violates the neutrality standards of Wikipedia.
The three other names I removed were non-notable persons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Harp Heaven ( talk • contribs) 09:54, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
This article needs some work:
-- Fuzheado | Talk 00:08, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Hakka descent is part of Chinese. If Li Denghui colluds with others such as Japanese against Chinese, then he is a Hanjian. - Sdsch ( talk) 04:13, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Dewang and Kawashima Yoshiko need sources where they are explicitly accused of being Hanjian, for obvious reasons. -- Миборовский 06:27, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Corazon Aquino is not Chinese.
It is not correct that "Because martial law was enforced, formal trials were not necessary, and the condemned were executed swiftly". Martial law is not a state of anarchy. The absence of trials was more likely due to the fact that revolutionary authorities didn't bother with trials at any time. Royalcourtier ( talk) 06:21, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
In the English language, race traitor implies miscegenation, or opposition to racist government policies. It seems to me the "Han" part is a shorthand for the Chinese nation, so a more accurate translation would be national traitor. Faulty ( talk) 22:51, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I am planning on updating this page to fill it with more sources, nuance, and overall more information. I am not sure if anyone still looks here to edit but I will be somewhat updating the direct meaning of hanjian, working on the History section to provide a better reflection, incorporating the Modern Use of the Term section into the History section, and updating the Notable Persons deemed to be hanjian section with more people and more information about certain individuals. I will be working on all of this throughout the weekend and plan on incorporating it on Sunday. If there are any concerns or questions then feel free to let me know. Seanhaupt ( talk) 15:16, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
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I removed five names from the list that were not notable or were added by pro-unification users.
There is a definition problem here, which is why I removed the names. Neither President Li or President Chen have done anything that could be construed as betraying the Han race, but they have rejected unification and thus betrayed the idea of "one China". The addition of their names thus reflects a distinct regional (mainland) bias and violates the neutrality standards of Wikipedia.
The three other names I removed were non-notable persons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Harp Heaven ( talk • contribs) 09:54, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
This article needs some work:
-- Fuzheado | Talk 00:08, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Hakka descent is part of Chinese. If Li Denghui colluds with others such as Japanese against Chinese, then he is a Hanjian. - Sdsch ( talk) 04:13, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Dewang and Kawashima Yoshiko need sources where they are explicitly accused of being Hanjian, for obvious reasons. -- Миборовский 06:27, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Corazon Aquino is not Chinese.
It is not correct that "Because martial law was enforced, formal trials were not necessary, and the condemned were executed swiftly". Martial law is not a state of anarchy. The absence of trials was more likely due to the fact that revolutionary authorities didn't bother with trials at any time. Royalcourtier ( talk) 06:21, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
In the English language, race traitor implies miscegenation, or opposition to racist government policies. It seems to me the "Han" part is a shorthand for the Chinese nation, so a more accurate translation would be national traitor. Faulty ( talk) 22:51, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I am planning on updating this page to fill it with more sources, nuance, and overall more information. I am not sure if anyone still looks here to edit but I will be somewhat updating the direct meaning of hanjian, working on the History section to provide a better reflection, incorporating the Modern Use of the Term section into the History section, and updating the Notable Persons deemed to be hanjian section with more people and more information about certain individuals. I will be working on all of this throughout the weekend and plan on incorporating it on Sunday. If there are any concerns or questions then feel free to let me know. Seanhaupt ( talk) 15:16, 5 April 2019 (UTC)