A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with
the layout style guideline:
B.
Reliable sources are
cited inline. All content that
could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
"It was produced by American record producer Ron Aniello and was mixed by by Brendan O'Brien.[2]" You're contradicting yourself, in the Lead you wrote that they both produced and mixed, but here you are saying that one produced and the other mixed.
"On the Billboard Alternative Songs chart, the song debuted at number thirty-six for the week of October 28, 2000.[11]" You mention in the Lead that it was the US Alternative chart specifically where the song reached #1, because you have only written United States in the Lead.
The Background sub-section is not notable enough to have it's own sub-section, it's very short. I'd make it one paragraph along with the synopsis, but I would like a second opinion.
First, make sure you have followed a consistent form of formatting for each and every reference. You can use the one I gave as an example for the "Broken" review of use your own one, as long as everything is consistent.
(Was the song not performed live?). I'm not sure about if this is GA worthy at the moment, there are quite a few prose issues which concern me, which I think need copy-editing further, and there are a few other points I am not sure on, so I am listing this review for a Second Opinion, for other peoples opinions on prose and any other issues that they find.Calvin •
NaNaNaC'mon!14:08, 9 August 2011 (UTC)reply
Non-reviewer comment - If this song peaked at number two on the Hot 100, shouldn't there be more info on the critical response? I don't know much about the song so I'm just wondering. —
WP:PENGUIN·[
TALK ]14:27, 9 August 2011 (UTC)reply
Agreed - For a song that became the biggest song in the US that year, and a number one single in Australia, its really short on content. The article is very small and not very informative in regards to its notability.--
CallMeNathan •
Talk2Me14:33, 9 August 2011 (UTC)reply
I think the article is too short at the moment. It needs considerably expansion and lot more information. Examples: Copy-edit the whole article, making sure prose flows and is easy to read, expand the Music video sub-sections, add any live performances, give details of the charts history, maybe a few weeks worth of charting to pad it out more, who held the song off of becoming #1?. This article doesn't meet GA criteria at the moment, because of a lack of information. Do you think you could expand this article?Calvin •
NaNaNaC'mon!14:51, 9 August 2011 (UTC)reply
I do think I can expand this article in the general seven days given to meet the good article criteria. Therefore, I believe it is appropriate to put this article on hold.
Rp0211(talk2me)16:04, 9 August 2011 (UTC)reply
I have added a "Promotion" section which talks about Lifehouse's tours with Matchbox Twenty and 3 Doors Down. It also talks about their first headlining tour, and the dates that it occurred. Also, I have added quotes from Wade about the making of the music video and worked on the "Chart performance" section. Finally, I went through the entire article and fixed the many minor prose mistakes that were listed and that I found on my own. Saying this all, I do believe I have addressed all of your points.
Rp0211(talk2me)22:44, 9 August 2011 (UTC)reply
Non-reviewer comments:
The song was written by Lifehouse lead singer Jason Wade as the debut single for Lifehouse.[2] So what is being said here is that it was chosen to be the first single during the writing process? Adjust the wording. Doesn't make sense for something to be "written as a single".
Put "
Lady Marmalade" in quotes and it isn't just Xtina's song.
Thanks for the comments. I truly appreciate them because they help me understand how to make Wikipedia better. I went ahead and fixed these mistakes.
Rp0211(talk2me)00:00, 10 August 2011 (UTC)reply
I don't think any of the Tour stuff is necessary, if anything, it should be on the parent album article. Also, you haven't include a work parameter for the MTV sources. The source is simply MTV, link the first instance only, and you will need to put .. around MTV so that it does not italicise.Calvin •
NaNaNaC'mon!15:35, 11 August 2011 (UTC)reply
I deleted the tour info and put it in the
No Name Face article. I do not know how to not italicize the "work=" parameter, but did put MTV as the publisher and wiki-linked the first time it appeared in the "References" section.
Rp0211(talk2me)16:35, 11 August 2011 (UTC)reply
To make something not italicise in the work paramter, you just do this: MTV, it has the opposite effect and doesn't italicise. (Click 'edit' on this page to see what I typed)
Calvin •
NaNaNaC'mon!16:41, 11 August 2011 (UTC)reply
Okay, I think you have now made the article worthy of being a GA. You have done everything which was asked of you to improve and expand the article, and it looks so much better now and it much better to read. Article is passed :).Calvin •
NaNaNaC'mon!22:42, 11 August 2011 (UTC)reply
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with
the layout style guideline:
B.
Reliable sources are
cited inline. All content that
could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
"It was produced by American record producer Ron Aniello and was mixed by by Brendan O'Brien.[2]" You're contradicting yourself, in the Lead you wrote that they both produced and mixed, but here you are saying that one produced and the other mixed.
"On the Billboard Alternative Songs chart, the song debuted at number thirty-six for the week of October 28, 2000.[11]" You mention in the Lead that it was the US Alternative chart specifically where the song reached #1, because you have only written United States in the Lead.
The Background sub-section is not notable enough to have it's own sub-section, it's very short. I'd make it one paragraph along with the synopsis, but I would like a second opinion.
First, make sure you have followed a consistent form of formatting for each and every reference. You can use the one I gave as an example for the "Broken" review of use your own one, as long as everything is consistent.
(Was the song not performed live?). I'm not sure about if this is GA worthy at the moment, there are quite a few prose issues which concern me, which I think need copy-editing further, and there are a few other points I am not sure on, so I am listing this review for a Second Opinion, for other peoples opinions on prose and any other issues that they find.Calvin •
NaNaNaC'mon!14:08, 9 August 2011 (UTC)reply
Non-reviewer comment - If this song peaked at number two on the Hot 100, shouldn't there be more info on the critical response? I don't know much about the song so I'm just wondering. —
WP:PENGUIN·[
TALK ]14:27, 9 August 2011 (UTC)reply
Agreed - For a song that became the biggest song in the US that year, and a number one single in Australia, its really short on content. The article is very small and not very informative in regards to its notability.--
CallMeNathan •
Talk2Me14:33, 9 August 2011 (UTC)reply
I think the article is too short at the moment. It needs considerably expansion and lot more information. Examples: Copy-edit the whole article, making sure prose flows and is easy to read, expand the Music video sub-sections, add any live performances, give details of the charts history, maybe a few weeks worth of charting to pad it out more, who held the song off of becoming #1?. This article doesn't meet GA criteria at the moment, because of a lack of information. Do you think you could expand this article?Calvin •
NaNaNaC'mon!14:51, 9 August 2011 (UTC)reply
I do think I can expand this article in the general seven days given to meet the good article criteria. Therefore, I believe it is appropriate to put this article on hold.
Rp0211(talk2me)16:04, 9 August 2011 (UTC)reply
I have added a "Promotion" section which talks about Lifehouse's tours with Matchbox Twenty and 3 Doors Down. It also talks about their first headlining tour, and the dates that it occurred. Also, I have added quotes from Wade about the making of the music video and worked on the "Chart performance" section. Finally, I went through the entire article and fixed the many minor prose mistakes that were listed and that I found on my own. Saying this all, I do believe I have addressed all of your points.
Rp0211(talk2me)22:44, 9 August 2011 (UTC)reply
Non-reviewer comments:
The song was written by Lifehouse lead singer Jason Wade as the debut single for Lifehouse.[2] So what is being said here is that it was chosen to be the first single during the writing process? Adjust the wording. Doesn't make sense for something to be "written as a single".
Put "
Lady Marmalade" in quotes and it isn't just Xtina's song.
Thanks for the comments. I truly appreciate them because they help me understand how to make Wikipedia better. I went ahead and fixed these mistakes.
Rp0211(talk2me)00:00, 10 August 2011 (UTC)reply
I don't think any of the Tour stuff is necessary, if anything, it should be on the parent album article. Also, you haven't include a work parameter for the MTV sources. The source is simply MTV, link the first instance only, and you will need to put .. around MTV so that it does not italicise.Calvin •
NaNaNaC'mon!15:35, 11 August 2011 (UTC)reply
I deleted the tour info and put it in the
No Name Face article. I do not know how to not italicize the "work=" parameter, but did put MTV as the publisher and wiki-linked the first time it appeared in the "References" section.
Rp0211(talk2me)16:35, 11 August 2011 (UTC)reply
To make something not italicise in the work paramter, you just do this: MTV, it has the opposite effect and doesn't italicise. (Click 'edit' on this page to see what I typed)
Calvin •
NaNaNaC'mon!16:41, 11 August 2011 (UTC)reply
Okay, I think you have now made the article worthy of being a GA. You have done everything which was asked of you to improve and expand the article, and it looks so much better now and it much better to read. Article is passed :).Calvin •
NaNaNaC'mon!22:42, 11 August 2011 (UTC)reply