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Dear Wikipedia staff - please leave this page the hell alone. One of you apparently keeps deleting it. Get a life and go away. Hamster racing is relatively new so OF COURSE there aren't a whole lot of hits on it yet. Jeeze. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Will 210 ( talk • contribs) 06:30, 13 May 2006
While Google may not return many results, I haven't checked. But I do feel the author makes good assertions about notability. I would move that we let the author finish his article (as he is new and making heavy revisions to it currently). If when he's finished, then I would move for a standard AfD process if that is still warranted. -- Charlie( @CIRL | talk) 06:57, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Sorry dude, I just read all the criteria for speedy deletion, and none of the ones mentioned at the top of this article are valid: "shows no relevant Google hits for hamster racing, HamTrak 2006, or Professional Hamster Racing" is not a valid criterion for speedy deletion; "asserts no notability" is not a valid criterion for speedy deletion as that only applies to people and bands. I suggest you reread wikipedia's deletion criteria and go away.
Believe it or not, this actually appears to be a legitimate "sport" [1] Unless anyone has any objections I propose removing the speedy delete tag. -- Centauri 07:02, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Here's some more references (from Google, incidentally - it helps if you look a little further than the first 10 results people!): [2], [3]. -- Centauri 07:12, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for waiting Notorious. I hope that this way we can avoid nasty arguments, as well as help Will learn more about Wikipedia in the process.
I'd rather not argue notability at this point (save it for an AfD if and when it comes), but I tried searching Google for a few other variants ("Hamster racing") for me returns Boston Globe (2001) in 2nd place (I am using personalized search, so that may skew result placement). ("Hamster racing" England) gave me this this press release among the results [4].
I'll be interested in seeing how this article turns out. -- Charlie( @CIRL | talk) 07:48, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
I believe the "importance" tag is misplaced and should be removed. It has already been established at at least one British betting agency takes bets (in real money) on hamster races. It has further been established that MTV and several other media outlets have reported on, and promoted hamster racing as described (and illustrated) in the article. This suggests that the subject is of some commercial value to its stakeholders, and has come to the attention of - at least - tens of thousands of people. -- Centauri 08:25, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Well thanks guys sorry I got upset it's just that somebody deleted the article twice while I was editing it and I had to start over. It bugs me that one person can just sweep through and get rid of anything he or she doesn't know about or like. And no I can't write 5000 words on it in one sitting, it will take days or even weeks as more information becomes available. The sport of hamster racing is still in its infancy, though we've seen that it's "big" in the UK. And by "big" it might be esoteric and it might be strange and even silly, but it's real, and of interest to more people than probably 75% of the other stuff that's on here. There are a half dozen links at the bottom of the article to everything from MTV to CNN reporting not only on professional hamster racing but amateur (usually kids) hamster racing. I have no stake in the matter other than an interest in seeing it accurately discussed on wikipedia. People should be made to write a dozen articles here before they can delete any so they know what it's like. (And just because something isn't big [yet] on the Internet doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Step outside every once in awhile.)
The section ("Origins") contains mostly original research as it lacks sources for the history of this sport, and even with sources the structure of the section makes novel connections between subjects. I suspect that some assertions contained in the section are fundamentally unsourceable, as well. A section on the origins of the sport is obviously topical and relevant, but I think this section needs to be scrapped and entirely rewritten from what few sources exist, if any, for the good of the article. — Saxifrage ✎ 04:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Sounds good. Once you've done the research and can replace the section in question with something better, feel free to do so.
This suspected "original research" section has remained untouched for over one year now. With no sources documented at this time, it compromises the validity of the article, per Wikipedia standards for mentioning facts with uncertainty. In such cases, the information should be moved to the talk page for further debate. So, here it is posted above. Notorious4life 12:59, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
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Dear Wikipedia staff - please leave this page the hell alone. One of you apparently keeps deleting it. Get a life and go away. Hamster racing is relatively new so OF COURSE there aren't a whole lot of hits on it yet. Jeeze. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Will 210 ( talk • contribs) 06:30, 13 May 2006
While Google may not return many results, I haven't checked. But I do feel the author makes good assertions about notability. I would move that we let the author finish his article (as he is new and making heavy revisions to it currently). If when he's finished, then I would move for a standard AfD process if that is still warranted. -- Charlie( @CIRL | talk) 06:57, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Sorry dude, I just read all the criteria for speedy deletion, and none of the ones mentioned at the top of this article are valid: "shows no relevant Google hits for hamster racing, HamTrak 2006, or Professional Hamster Racing" is not a valid criterion for speedy deletion; "asserts no notability" is not a valid criterion for speedy deletion as that only applies to people and bands. I suggest you reread wikipedia's deletion criteria and go away.
Believe it or not, this actually appears to be a legitimate "sport" [1] Unless anyone has any objections I propose removing the speedy delete tag. -- Centauri 07:02, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Here's some more references (from Google, incidentally - it helps if you look a little further than the first 10 results people!): [2], [3]. -- Centauri 07:12, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for waiting Notorious. I hope that this way we can avoid nasty arguments, as well as help Will learn more about Wikipedia in the process.
I'd rather not argue notability at this point (save it for an AfD if and when it comes), but I tried searching Google for a few other variants ("Hamster racing") for me returns Boston Globe (2001) in 2nd place (I am using personalized search, so that may skew result placement). ("Hamster racing" England) gave me this this press release among the results [4].
I'll be interested in seeing how this article turns out. -- Charlie( @CIRL | talk) 07:48, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
I believe the "importance" tag is misplaced and should be removed. It has already been established at at least one British betting agency takes bets (in real money) on hamster races. It has further been established that MTV and several other media outlets have reported on, and promoted hamster racing as described (and illustrated) in the article. This suggests that the subject is of some commercial value to its stakeholders, and has come to the attention of - at least - tens of thousands of people. -- Centauri 08:25, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Well thanks guys sorry I got upset it's just that somebody deleted the article twice while I was editing it and I had to start over. It bugs me that one person can just sweep through and get rid of anything he or she doesn't know about or like. And no I can't write 5000 words on it in one sitting, it will take days or even weeks as more information becomes available. The sport of hamster racing is still in its infancy, though we've seen that it's "big" in the UK. And by "big" it might be esoteric and it might be strange and even silly, but it's real, and of interest to more people than probably 75% of the other stuff that's on here. There are a half dozen links at the bottom of the article to everything from MTV to CNN reporting not only on professional hamster racing but amateur (usually kids) hamster racing. I have no stake in the matter other than an interest in seeing it accurately discussed on wikipedia. People should be made to write a dozen articles here before they can delete any so they know what it's like. (And just because something isn't big [yet] on the Internet doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Step outside every once in awhile.)
The section ("Origins") contains mostly original research as it lacks sources for the history of this sport, and even with sources the structure of the section makes novel connections between subjects. I suspect that some assertions contained in the section are fundamentally unsourceable, as well. A section on the origins of the sport is obviously topical and relevant, but I think this section needs to be scrapped and entirely rewritten from what few sources exist, if any, for the good of the article. — Saxifrage ✎ 04:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Sounds good. Once you've done the research and can replace the section in question with something better, feel free to do so.
This suspected "original research" section has remained untouched for over one year now. With no sources documented at this time, it compromises the validity of the article, per Wikipedia standards for mentioning facts with uncertainty. In such cases, the information should be moved to the talk page for further debate. So, here it is posted above. Notorious4life 12:59, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
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Image:Mtv hamtrak06.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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I recently removed the "UK Origins" section as it was redundant and of inferior quality to the replacing section. If anyone objects to this, please put said objections here. WikiSquirrel42 ( talk) 21:17, 1 January 2018 (UTC) WikiSquirrel42 ( talk) 21:17, 1 January 2018 (UTC)