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There should be a cross reference to the Frikadeller wikipedia article, not even because they are somewhat similar (altough more firm) but because they are most likely the food from where the Hamburger (which is much softer) evolved: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frikadeller — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.203.20.66 ( talk) 21:45, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Should the "Lab Grown Birger" be added to the unusual burgers section? http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/08/05/209163204/long-awaited-lab-grown-burger-is-unveiled-in-london — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.15.255.228 ( talk) 18:23, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Hamburgers are famous at being at Bar-B-Q's.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/9091628/Test-tube-hamburgers-to-be-served-this-year.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.99.130.243 ( talk) 18:22, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
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"Beef Burger"?? I'm just curious why it necessary to prefix it with the word "beef"? Since "non-beef" sandwiches .. such as chicken .. are called chicken sandwich. A burger is nothing else ... but a patty that is primarily made of beef wrapped in a bun. 195.229.181.251 ( talk) 11:35, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
"Beefburger" (one word) is the standard British English usage: http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/beefburger — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.98.255.115 ( talk) 21:49, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
I remember Alistair Cook, in one of his 'Letters from America', stating that the Hamburger was named after the town of Hamburg in Pennsylvania USA. I can't remember which 'letter' it was - sometime in the 1980s or 1990s, long before the 'Taste of Hamburg-er Festival' began there in 2003. However, there's no mention of that in the article. 149.241.202.165 ( talk) 21:36, 28 November 2012 (UTC) dpstat
article contains statement: Because of the potential for food-borne illness, the USDA recommends hamburgers be cooked to an internal temperature of 170 °F (80 °C). If cooked to this temperature, they are considered well-done.[27]
Reference [27] points to: http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OA/news/1998/colorpr.htm
That page contains statements: Thomas J. Billy, administrator of USDA's Food Safety and Inspection Service, explained that USDA studies show that the color of cooked ground beef patties can be quite variable. At 160 degrees F a safely cooked patty may look brown, pink or some variation of brown or pink. "The bottom line is that if you cook your burger to 160 degrees F on an instant-read food thermometer, you can enjoy a safe, juicy burger," said Billy. Use an accurate digital instant-read food thermometer to check the temperature throughout the patty. The temperature must reach 160 degrees F.
all of which mention 160deg as the safe temperature, not 170. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.164.120.135 ( talk) 01:52, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
The German article about hamburgers says that there are three versions why its name is hamburger, it might also come from the city of Hamburg, Erie county near Buffalo. 95.91.95.202 ( talk) 21:25, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
There's a proposed merger from Naan burger to on of the sections here, I do support the merger of Naan burger into this article, assuming someone can find some sourced content to merge at all. Anyone got anything at all? -- j⚛e decker talk 03:40, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
The claim that a burger has been made from feces is probably cra ... I mean bogus. See this question on Skeptics Stack Exchange: Has a meat substitute from human feces been developed in Japan?.
The only citation supporting the claim in the article is the Huffington Post, which isn't a reliable source. If you want to add this claim back in, find a more reliable source unambiguously stating that it really has been created. Andrew Grimm ( talk) 04:31, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
We need a new Section: We need to explain the grades of beef used in fast food hamburger places like McDonald's, In-N-Out Burger, Wendy's, etc. There are 8 grades of beef: Prime, Choice, and Select are the best, then the lower 5 are Standard, Commercial, Utility, Cutter and Canner. I've read that fast food places use the lowest three grades. (The lowest three grades are used for ground beef and hot dogs.) Also USDA "A" is a misnomer, the "A" just means that it's fit for human consumption, that's all, it could be the lowest grade of beef possible and still be given the "A" designation. There's a great deal of confusion (and urban myths) out there and people are really curious as to the quality of their meat in fast food places. Cattle are normally killed and slaughtered at 16 months since they're fully grown by then and it would be a waste of money to keep feeding them. But dairy cows live up to around 8 years old and I've read that these dairy cows are slaughtereed and used in fast food places. Also, if McDonald's has it's own herds, then who do they serve their Prime, Choice and Select cuts to? --Fancy uptown restaurants? They sure wouldn't put expensive meat in their hamburgers, especially since I've read that they use "Utility" grade beef in their hamburgers. What do they do with the Cutter and Canner grades? Sell it for dog food? Or put it in their hamburgers? And the idiotic claim that everything in the burger is "100% beef" is very misleading, they could put the cattle hooves in the meat and it would still be "100% beef", so the "100% beef" is basically a lie that is used as a marketing ploy. People really want to know what they're eating, it's a health issue and a consumer right. And the fast food places are very deceptive and misleading. 50.202.81.2 ( talk) 07:50, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
The bun kebab link goes to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bun_kabab, where there is nothing, instead of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bun_kebab, where there is something.
Seems like editing this link to point to that would make sense but I can't do it because the page is semi-protected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diathesis ( talk • contribs) 12:41, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Something is wrong here. The page lists "Germany, United States" as the origin of the hamburger. Should it read "Germany and the United States"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.98.224.69 ( talk) 18:40, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
According to eyewitness accounts, the McOz hamburger has been available during January 2013, and will be available for January 2014, as cited here https://mcdonalds.com.au/menu/mcoz 27.253.69.62 ( talk) 09:09, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
In Annals of Diagnostic Pathology Volume 12, Issue 6, December 2008, Pages 406–409 ("Fast food hamburgers: what are we really eating?"), an analysis of the meat of 8 fast-food Hamburger found that two of the samples contained sarcocystis parasites.
"Water content by weight ranged from 37.7% to 62.4% (mean, 49%). Meat content in the hamburgers ranged from 2.1% to 14.8% (median, 12.1%). The cost per gram of hamburger ranged from $0.02 to $0.16 (median, $0.03) and did not correlate with meat content. Electron microscopy showed relatively preserved skeletal muscle. A variety of tissue types besides skeletal muscle were observed including connective tissue (n = 8), blood vessels (n = 8), peripheral nerve (n = 8), adipose tissue (n = 7), plant material (n = 4), cartilage (n = 3), and bone (n = 2). In 2 hamburgers, intracellular parasites (Sarcocystis) were identified".-- TraceyR ( talk) 09:13, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
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Under United Kingdom and Ireland, any chance of linking Abrakebabra and Eddie Rockets to their article pages Abrakebabra and Eddie Rocket's? 46.7.249.24 ( talk) 19:30, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
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The hamburger originated in Germany. This is a fact 12.91.20.190 ( talk) 03:27, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
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LieutenantFuse ( talk) 23:54, 29 May 2014 (UTC) Requesting permission to name the place of origin
Of all the countries mentioned in the article, there is no mention of the hamburger in Germany ... either current or in history. It would help improve the article to have some basic or in depth content concerning Germany.-- 75.186.70.204 ( talk) 17:18, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Traditionally, why do hamburgers have to be cooked at 155°F and above — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.185.9.3 ( talk) 05:51, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
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change ((jalapeno))s to ((jalapeño))s — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.120.162.73 ( talk) 21:48, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
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Other hamburger-steak claims Various non-specific claims of invention relate to the term "hamburger steak" without mention of its being a sandwich.
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Other hamburger-steak claims Various non-specific claims of invention relate to the term "hamburger steak" which is not a sandwich.
The reason is that it is an over-sized ground beef patty that is served without being in a bun or between bread slices. Everyone knows this. If it were served in a bun or between slices of bread, it would have just been called a hamburger. 99.23.41.116 ( talk) 08:25, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
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The term hamburger originally derives from Hamburg,[2] Germany's second largest city.
Yes. I think also, the precursor of Hamburger and Hot Dog was the British Sandwich. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:D1:27FF:194D:E859:9E9B:DD43:BB62 ( talk) 09:01, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
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From the introductory paragraph: "Hamburgers are sold at fast-food restaurants, diners, specialty restaurants (where burgers may sell for several times the cost of a burger) and high-end restaurants. There are many international and regional variations of the hamburger."
Where burgers may sell for several times the cost of a burger??? This parenthetical is blatant nonsense. It should be removed, unless someone can decipher what it originally meant and make it clear, in which case they should fix it instead. 2600:1015:B105:C65B:75CB:A58F:F77C:8E23 ( talk) 01:15, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
First of all: I am from Germany, so what I say is correct. The article is correct as it says that a hamburger is a German invention originated in Hamburg, but you are calling it a sandwich. Don't you know that a sandwich is something different? A sandwich is made with some kind of bread (Brot). A burger is made with rolls (Brötchen). I've seen many articles with this particular fault. I've seen it even in restaurants in the US and the UK. In my opinion you don't know that this is wrong, right? Maybe you should correct your language. 87.175.254.83 ( talk) 17:59, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
As I told you before: I am German. This should be enough. I want to help you to correct your mistake so be nice and polite to me. Understood? 87.175.254.83 ( talk) 18:14, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Oh, I think you don't understand what I'm saying. Not this article in this "international"* encyclopedia is wrong - your language is. Perhaps this fault is because you think hamburger buns were bread (Brot). They are not. Hamburger buns are rolls (Brötchen). A sandwich is made with bread, not with rolls. This is why a hamburger is not a sandwich. * en.wikipedia.org is obviously not an international but an English encyclopedia. 87.175.254.83 ( talk) 19:18, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
If rolls are really a form of bread in American English than you should correct this fault in your language too. A roll is not a bread. It seems like you make the mistake to call this an "international" encyclopedia, because you think it is sufficient if it is USED by people from more than one country. That's wrong. That makes absolutely no sense. It is clearly an English encyclopedia, because it is written in English. Otherwise every encyclopedia would be an international encyclopedia because we can assume that each encyclopedia is at least read by one stranger. If every encyclopedia were an international encyclopedia, it would make no sense to call any of them international. 87.175.254.83 ( talk) 19:38, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
My logic is correct. If it weren't correct you could disproof it, which you can't. I never sad that the US' usage of the word 'bread' is wrong and needs to be corrected - just 'sandwich' and 'roll'. 87.175.254.83 ( talk) 20:01, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
1. I did not want to DISCUSS the American Language. I just told you some points where it is wrong and I told you what is right. 2. This article is the right place, because you think a HAMBURGER is a sandwich. Clearly it is not. Even if every American thinks so, it just isn't. 3. I agree that a roll is a bread product, but a sandwich contains BREAD, not some BREAD PRODUCT. The word Brötchen is a diminutive of Brot. 4. My opening assertion was just to show you, that my opinion is correct and doesn't need any further proof.
You are wrong. How could MY arguments be silly?! I just told you facts. If you don't want to improve yourselves, it's your fault. 23:04, 18 October 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.175.254.83 ( talk) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Add this: And a person who steals and eats hamburgers is called a Hamburglar. 103.233.123.154 ( talk) 01:12, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
The 'hot hamburger' served in Canada is a patty covered in beef gravy, and usually with fries. No mention of gravy anywhere in article. 66.81.246.2 ( talk) 07:06, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
As of March 2016, it has been confirmed by the Library of Congress that the hamburger originated in Louis' Lunch in New Haven, Connecticut. I propose an edit that will include this information into the article.
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Another item that distinguished Winky's was its fish sandwich, made from a fried and breaded chunk of Icelandic cod. For my money, the best fish sandwich of any of the burger chains. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChrisLeslie33 ( talk • contribs) 01:44, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
I can't seem to edit this page directly, but Lick's Homeburgers no longer seems to exist. Should it be removed from the list of major hamburger franchises? (Also, the name is Lick's Homeburgers with an "s," not "Homeburger.") — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fudd4242 ( talk • contribs) 22:05, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
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In the History paragraph, Fletcher Davis is misspelled as "Fletcher David".
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Shame on you, whoever mistyped that name and Wikipedia spreading it to the world. The surname Kuasw is inpronouncable and in fact does not exist. Teh real name is "Krause". See http://www.lifetimetv.co.uk/features/the-10-burgers-that-changed-the-world — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.7.112.133 ( talk) 21:50, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
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There is a reference to Hamburger steak in the New York Times on 19 Jan 1873, in a restaurant review of "the tables of Auguste Ermisch at the corner of Nassau and John streets." "[W]e can have a Hamburger steak, which is simply a beefsteak redeemed from its original toughness by being mashed into mince-meat and then formed into a conglomerated mass. This is very appetizing, but conscience compels us to state that it is inferior to the genuine article." Obitsman ( talk) 17:49, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
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The sentence in section History: "Hamburg steak is reported to have been served on the Hamburg America Line between two pieces of bread, which began operations in 1847." makes no sense. Likely should be reworded to "Hamburg steak is reported to have been served on the Hamburg America Line (which began operations in 1847) between two pieces of bread." or something. thanks-- 80.188.30.112 ( talk) 08:48, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
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Please add that the July 16, 1997 Chicago Tribune cites the Tremont Hotel as listing "Steak Hambourgeoise" in 1877 - source link - http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1997-07-16/entertainment/9707220045_1_chicago-river-food-city-oysters/3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.200.128.10 ( talk) 19:28, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
Origin is unknown.. just another claim of invention. Like 10000s of stories of how pizza was invented. DawedalRaqqa ( talk) 05:23, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
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That may have originally been the case, but they are certainly no longer necessarily square or sprinkled with diced onions. They have developed as many variations as "normal" hamburgers, as is well known (and was inevitable). Kostaki mou ( talk) 17:27, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
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How is hamburger a back-formation if it's named for Hamburg and back-formation refers to removing parts of a word, not adding? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.74.151.135 ( talk) 16:31, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
The first paragraph says that burgers may be barbecued; while they can, it's more likely that they will be grilled. " Barbecue" denotes cooking over long periods of low heat, while " grilling" denotes cooking for shorter periods of more intense heat. -- 71.33.137.169 ( talk) 17:07, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
I propose that steak burger be merged into hamburger. "Steak burger" appears to be a marketing term for a hamburger claimed to be of superior quality, but there is no clear distinction between a steak burger and a hamburger (see Talk:Steak burger/Notes). -- Macrakis ( talk) 15:53, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
The years pass, and Wikipedia is still spreading bullshit. Nobody cares to correct this obvious typo - and I cannot do it, as the page is semiprotected..-- 79.7.112.133 ( talk) 22:39, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
I just love how the photo in the infobox shows a burger served straight on the countertop😂 GOLDIEM J ( talk) 16:53, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
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There should be a cross reference to the Frikadeller wikipedia article, not even because they are somewhat similar (altough more firm) but because they are most likely the food from where the Hamburger (which is much softer) evolved: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frikadeller — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.203.20.66 ( talk) 21:45, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Should the "Lab Grown Birger" be added to the unusual burgers section? http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/08/05/209163204/long-awaited-lab-grown-burger-is-unveiled-in-london — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.15.255.228 ( talk) 18:23, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Hamburgers are famous at being at Bar-B-Q's.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/9091628/Test-tube-hamburgers-to-be-served-this-year.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.99.130.243 ( talk) 18:22, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
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"Beef Burger"?? I'm just curious why it necessary to prefix it with the word "beef"? Since "non-beef" sandwiches .. such as chicken .. are called chicken sandwich. A burger is nothing else ... but a patty that is primarily made of beef wrapped in a bun. 195.229.181.251 ( talk) 11:35, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
"Beefburger" (one word) is the standard British English usage: http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/beefburger — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.98.255.115 ( talk) 21:49, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
I remember Alistair Cook, in one of his 'Letters from America', stating that the Hamburger was named after the town of Hamburg in Pennsylvania USA. I can't remember which 'letter' it was - sometime in the 1980s or 1990s, long before the 'Taste of Hamburg-er Festival' began there in 2003. However, there's no mention of that in the article. 149.241.202.165 ( talk) 21:36, 28 November 2012 (UTC) dpstat
article contains statement: Because of the potential for food-borne illness, the USDA recommends hamburgers be cooked to an internal temperature of 170 °F (80 °C). If cooked to this temperature, they are considered well-done.[27]
Reference [27] points to: http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OA/news/1998/colorpr.htm
That page contains statements: Thomas J. Billy, administrator of USDA's Food Safety and Inspection Service, explained that USDA studies show that the color of cooked ground beef patties can be quite variable. At 160 degrees F a safely cooked patty may look brown, pink or some variation of brown or pink. "The bottom line is that if you cook your burger to 160 degrees F on an instant-read food thermometer, you can enjoy a safe, juicy burger," said Billy. Use an accurate digital instant-read food thermometer to check the temperature throughout the patty. The temperature must reach 160 degrees F.
all of which mention 160deg as the safe temperature, not 170. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.164.120.135 ( talk) 01:52, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
The German article about hamburgers says that there are three versions why its name is hamburger, it might also come from the city of Hamburg, Erie county near Buffalo. 95.91.95.202 ( talk) 21:25, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
There's a proposed merger from Naan burger to on of the sections here, I do support the merger of Naan burger into this article, assuming someone can find some sourced content to merge at all. Anyone got anything at all? -- j⚛e decker talk 03:40, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
The claim that a burger has been made from feces is probably cra ... I mean bogus. See this question on Skeptics Stack Exchange: Has a meat substitute from human feces been developed in Japan?.
The only citation supporting the claim in the article is the Huffington Post, which isn't a reliable source. If you want to add this claim back in, find a more reliable source unambiguously stating that it really has been created. Andrew Grimm ( talk) 04:31, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
We need a new Section: We need to explain the grades of beef used in fast food hamburger places like McDonald's, In-N-Out Burger, Wendy's, etc. There are 8 grades of beef: Prime, Choice, and Select are the best, then the lower 5 are Standard, Commercial, Utility, Cutter and Canner. I've read that fast food places use the lowest three grades. (The lowest three grades are used for ground beef and hot dogs.) Also USDA "A" is a misnomer, the "A" just means that it's fit for human consumption, that's all, it could be the lowest grade of beef possible and still be given the "A" designation. There's a great deal of confusion (and urban myths) out there and people are really curious as to the quality of their meat in fast food places. Cattle are normally killed and slaughtered at 16 months since they're fully grown by then and it would be a waste of money to keep feeding them. But dairy cows live up to around 8 years old and I've read that these dairy cows are slaughtereed and used in fast food places. Also, if McDonald's has it's own herds, then who do they serve their Prime, Choice and Select cuts to? --Fancy uptown restaurants? They sure wouldn't put expensive meat in their hamburgers, especially since I've read that they use "Utility" grade beef in their hamburgers. What do they do with the Cutter and Canner grades? Sell it for dog food? Or put it in their hamburgers? And the idiotic claim that everything in the burger is "100% beef" is very misleading, they could put the cattle hooves in the meat and it would still be "100% beef", so the "100% beef" is basically a lie that is used as a marketing ploy. People really want to know what they're eating, it's a health issue and a consumer right. And the fast food places are very deceptive and misleading. 50.202.81.2 ( talk) 07:50, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
The bun kebab link goes to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bun_kabab, where there is nothing, instead of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bun_kebab, where there is something.
Seems like editing this link to point to that would make sense but I can't do it because the page is semi-protected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diathesis ( talk • contribs) 12:41, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Something is wrong here. The page lists "Germany, United States" as the origin of the hamburger. Should it read "Germany and the United States"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.98.224.69 ( talk) 18:40, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
According to eyewitness accounts, the McOz hamburger has been available during January 2013, and will be available for January 2014, as cited here https://mcdonalds.com.au/menu/mcoz 27.253.69.62 ( talk) 09:09, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
In Annals of Diagnostic Pathology Volume 12, Issue 6, December 2008, Pages 406–409 ("Fast food hamburgers: what are we really eating?"), an analysis of the meat of 8 fast-food Hamburger found that two of the samples contained sarcocystis parasites.
"Water content by weight ranged from 37.7% to 62.4% (mean, 49%). Meat content in the hamburgers ranged from 2.1% to 14.8% (median, 12.1%). The cost per gram of hamburger ranged from $0.02 to $0.16 (median, $0.03) and did not correlate with meat content. Electron microscopy showed relatively preserved skeletal muscle. A variety of tissue types besides skeletal muscle were observed including connective tissue (n = 8), blood vessels (n = 8), peripheral nerve (n = 8), adipose tissue (n = 7), plant material (n = 4), cartilage (n = 3), and bone (n = 2). In 2 hamburgers, intracellular parasites (Sarcocystis) were identified".-- TraceyR ( talk) 09:13, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
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Under United Kingdom and Ireland, any chance of linking Abrakebabra and Eddie Rockets to their article pages Abrakebabra and Eddie Rocket's? 46.7.249.24 ( talk) 19:30, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
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The hamburger originated in Germany. This is a fact 12.91.20.190 ( talk) 03:27, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
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LieutenantFuse ( talk) 23:54, 29 May 2014 (UTC) Requesting permission to name the place of origin
Of all the countries mentioned in the article, there is no mention of the hamburger in Germany ... either current or in history. It would help improve the article to have some basic or in depth content concerning Germany.-- 75.186.70.204 ( talk) 17:18, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Traditionally, why do hamburgers have to be cooked at 155°F and above — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.185.9.3 ( talk) 05:51, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
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change ((jalapeno))s to ((jalapeño))s — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.120.162.73 ( talk) 21:48, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
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Other hamburger-steak claims Various non-specific claims of invention relate to the term "hamburger steak" without mention of its being a sandwich.
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Other hamburger-steak claims Various non-specific claims of invention relate to the term "hamburger steak" which is not a sandwich.
The reason is that it is an over-sized ground beef patty that is served without being in a bun or between bread slices. Everyone knows this. If it were served in a bun or between slices of bread, it would have just been called a hamburger. 99.23.41.116 ( talk) 08:25, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
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The term hamburger originally derives from Hamburg,[2] Germany's second largest city.
Yes. I think also, the precursor of Hamburger and Hot Dog was the British Sandwich. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:D1:27FF:194D:E859:9E9B:DD43:BB62 ( talk) 09:01, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
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From the introductory paragraph: "Hamburgers are sold at fast-food restaurants, diners, specialty restaurants (where burgers may sell for several times the cost of a burger) and high-end restaurants. There are many international and regional variations of the hamburger."
Where burgers may sell for several times the cost of a burger??? This parenthetical is blatant nonsense. It should be removed, unless someone can decipher what it originally meant and make it clear, in which case they should fix it instead. 2600:1015:B105:C65B:75CB:A58F:F77C:8E23 ( talk) 01:15, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
First of all: I am from Germany, so what I say is correct. The article is correct as it says that a hamburger is a German invention originated in Hamburg, but you are calling it a sandwich. Don't you know that a sandwich is something different? A sandwich is made with some kind of bread (Brot). A burger is made with rolls (Brötchen). I've seen many articles with this particular fault. I've seen it even in restaurants in the US and the UK. In my opinion you don't know that this is wrong, right? Maybe you should correct your language. 87.175.254.83 ( talk) 17:59, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
As I told you before: I am German. This should be enough. I want to help you to correct your mistake so be nice and polite to me. Understood? 87.175.254.83 ( talk) 18:14, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Oh, I think you don't understand what I'm saying. Not this article in this "international"* encyclopedia is wrong - your language is. Perhaps this fault is because you think hamburger buns were bread (Brot). They are not. Hamburger buns are rolls (Brötchen). A sandwich is made with bread, not with rolls. This is why a hamburger is not a sandwich. * en.wikipedia.org is obviously not an international but an English encyclopedia. 87.175.254.83 ( talk) 19:18, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
If rolls are really a form of bread in American English than you should correct this fault in your language too. A roll is not a bread. It seems like you make the mistake to call this an "international" encyclopedia, because you think it is sufficient if it is USED by people from more than one country. That's wrong. That makes absolutely no sense. It is clearly an English encyclopedia, because it is written in English. Otherwise every encyclopedia would be an international encyclopedia because we can assume that each encyclopedia is at least read by one stranger. If every encyclopedia were an international encyclopedia, it would make no sense to call any of them international. 87.175.254.83 ( talk) 19:38, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
My logic is correct. If it weren't correct you could disproof it, which you can't. I never sad that the US' usage of the word 'bread' is wrong and needs to be corrected - just 'sandwich' and 'roll'. 87.175.254.83 ( talk) 20:01, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
1. I did not want to DISCUSS the American Language. I just told you some points where it is wrong and I told you what is right. 2. This article is the right place, because you think a HAMBURGER is a sandwich. Clearly it is not. Even if every American thinks so, it just isn't. 3. I agree that a roll is a bread product, but a sandwich contains BREAD, not some BREAD PRODUCT. The word Brötchen is a diminutive of Brot. 4. My opening assertion was just to show you, that my opinion is correct and doesn't need any further proof.
You are wrong. How could MY arguments be silly?! I just told you facts. If you don't want to improve yourselves, it's your fault. 23:04, 18 October 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.175.254.83 ( talk) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Add this: And a person who steals and eats hamburgers is called a Hamburglar. 103.233.123.154 ( talk) 01:12, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
The 'hot hamburger' served in Canada is a patty covered in beef gravy, and usually with fries. No mention of gravy anywhere in article. 66.81.246.2 ( talk) 07:06, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
As of March 2016, it has been confirmed by the Library of Congress that the hamburger originated in Louis' Lunch in New Haven, Connecticut. I propose an edit that will include this information into the article.
Source: http://memory.loc.gov/diglib/legacies/loc.afc.afc-legacies.200002814/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.192.57.46 ( talk) 15:37, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
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Another item that distinguished Winky's was its fish sandwich, made from a fried and breaded chunk of Icelandic cod. For my money, the best fish sandwich of any of the burger chains. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChrisLeslie33 ( talk • contribs) 01:44, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
I can't seem to edit this page directly, but Lick's Homeburgers no longer seems to exist. Should it be removed from the list of major hamburger franchises? (Also, the name is Lick's Homeburgers with an "s," not "Homeburger.") — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fudd4242 ( talk • contribs) 22:05, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
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In the History paragraph, Fletcher Davis is misspelled as "Fletcher David".
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Shame on you, whoever mistyped that name and Wikipedia spreading it to the world. The surname Kuasw is inpronouncable and in fact does not exist. Teh real name is "Krause". See http://www.lifetimetv.co.uk/features/the-10-burgers-that-changed-the-world — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.7.112.133 ( talk) 21:50, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
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There is a reference to Hamburger steak in the New York Times on 19 Jan 1873, in a restaurant review of "the tables of Auguste Ermisch at the corner of Nassau and John streets." "[W]e can have a Hamburger steak, which is simply a beefsteak redeemed from its original toughness by being mashed into mince-meat and then formed into a conglomerated mass. This is very appetizing, but conscience compels us to state that it is inferior to the genuine article." Obitsman ( talk) 17:49, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
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The sentence in section History: "Hamburg steak is reported to have been served on the Hamburg America Line between two pieces of bread, which began operations in 1847." makes no sense. Likely should be reworded to "Hamburg steak is reported to have been served on the Hamburg America Line (which began operations in 1847) between two pieces of bread." or something. thanks-- 80.188.30.112 ( talk) 08:48, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
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Please add that the July 16, 1997 Chicago Tribune cites the Tremont Hotel as listing "Steak Hambourgeoise" in 1877 - source link - http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1997-07-16/entertainment/9707220045_1_chicago-river-food-city-oysters/3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.200.128.10 ( talk) 19:28, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
Origin is unknown.. just another claim of invention. Like 10000s of stories of how pizza was invented. DawedalRaqqa ( talk) 05:23, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
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That may have originally been the case, but they are certainly no longer necessarily square or sprinkled with diced onions. They have developed as many variations as "normal" hamburgers, as is well known (and was inevitable). Kostaki mou ( talk) 17:27, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
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How is hamburger a back-formation if it's named for Hamburg and back-formation refers to removing parts of a word, not adding? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.74.151.135 ( talk) 16:31, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
The first paragraph says that burgers may be barbecued; while they can, it's more likely that they will be grilled. " Barbecue" denotes cooking over long periods of low heat, while " grilling" denotes cooking for shorter periods of more intense heat. -- 71.33.137.169 ( talk) 17:07, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
I propose that steak burger be merged into hamburger. "Steak burger" appears to be a marketing term for a hamburger claimed to be of superior quality, but there is no clear distinction between a steak burger and a hamburger (see Talk:Steak burger/Notes). -- Macrakis ( talk) 15:53, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
The years pass, and Wikipedia is still spreading bullshit. Nobody cares to correct this obvious typo - and I cannot do it, as the page is semiprotected..-- 79.7.112.133 ( talk) 22:39, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
I just love how the photo in the infobox shows a burger served straight on the countertop😂 GOLDIEM J ( talk) 16:53, 29 July 2019 (UTC)