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I’ve added a note in the
Chart positions section, requiring entries to be a) in the top ten b) of a national or other major chart and c) verified. And I’ve removed any that aren’t.
I’ve left the listing for Leonard Cohens version, but I don’t know which is worse; having it in, or not having it in. It seems wrong to me somehow that every other bugger is making money out of the song except him.
Swanny18 (
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18:29, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
I took an item out of this section, as its best chart position was 24th; this was reverterd with the summary
"Threshold is unreasonably high and would preclude the song's original version"
I don't know how many times this has been discussed, but we can always do it again. I thought any top ten placement was being generous, and that any threshold is going to upset anyone who's favoured version is outside of it; but: If not that, what would be a reasonable threshold for inclusion?
Swanny18 (
talk)
17:41, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
The text
here says
“
Bon Jovi has covered the song several times in concert, including on their 2008
Live at Madison Square Garden DVD, and Cohen rates their version as his favorite.
source
Que? Does anyone have another source for this? This
source reckons the BJ version is one of the worst(though, thinking laterally, that doesn’t mean it isn’t Cohen's favourite) But the k.d lang section claims that to be his favourite, so it’d be nice to clarify it.
Swanny18 (
talk)
04:05, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
I've heard a version of Hallelujah that I think is Freddie Mercury. However, I see no mention of such a version on the page. If there is a Mercury version, please add discussion thereof. If there isn't I would be grateful for the addition of a comment indicating which one sounds like him (particularly around the lyric --the fourth the fifth, the minor fall, the major lift) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.0.112.164 ( talk) 22:10, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
Refs 20 and 32 are redundant, both to the same search page at BNI. Could someone show me how to combine these refs (so they both link to cite #20 and the overall no. of cites is reduced by one)? I'm horrible at that sort of thing. Thanks. Abrazame ( talk) 23:26, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
I don't think the vocal range information is correct - E4 is by no means a low pitch, and just by hearing it I can hear notes as low as E3. I can't see the sheet music (and I'm not going to buy it just to prove a wikipedia article wrong), so could someone verify the full vocal range? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.77.20.92 ( talk) 13:11, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
1996 - Enrique Morente, spanish flamenco singer, recorded "Omega", and album with Federico Garcia Lorca poems and Leonard Cohen songs, it was a mix of flamenco and rock, with a "hallelujah" cover called "Aleluya". http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrique_Morente —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.154.82.119 ( talk) 09:27, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
There seems to be an unnecessary extra space between the singles chronology and the music video link in the infobox for the Alexandra Burke version. It would be a minor improvement on the degree to which the infobox extends into the next section if someone could figure out a way for this space to be omitted. I've tried two or three things and can't seem to get anywhere. I would note that the previous version has a music video link that does not have this space above it, although as it was a supergroup version, there isn't a chronology in that box—might that be the source of the problem? Not a big issue, but if someone knows how, it would be a helpful tuck here. Abrazame ( talk) 20:33, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Susan Boyle's cover was ranked #15 by the Village Voice on their "20 Worst Songs of 2010" list. The discussion can be found here:
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2010/12/the_20_worst_so_5.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.87.163.106 ( talk) 14:24, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Nynke Laverman ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nynke_Laverman)recorded a version in the Frisian language for the compilation "Cohen in het Fries" (www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuE_hT0VZXQ)
Opera superstar Renee Fleming recorded a version on her album "Dark Hope" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Hope)
Aonsman ( talk) 03:56, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
In a recent series of edits, I trimmed some excess verbiage. Among these edits, this was by far the most substantial. For it, I accidentally checked the option "This is a minor edit". Sorry! -- Hoary ( talk) 01:37, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
The use of a line of lyrics to explain chord progression, expecially since it is discussing the topic, is allowed per WP:LYRICS. Quoting a lyric in this purpose is fair use, see Copyrighted works.-- ☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(talk) 11:34, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
I've also personally heard covers by Molly Sanden in Swedish and Dani Youssef in Arabic (an interesting one as it's translated as "Hamdoulillah.") Not sure if that's important but yes, there are more covers. etothei ( talk) 18:36, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of the completely different (religious)lyrics written and sung by Kelley Mooney in 2010 ? Jmn71440 ( talk) 10:38, 20 April 2014 (UTC)jmn71440
There's a link (which I can't read in full) that lists the show The OC as using Juff Buckley's version. From my own memory, that's not true. Then I found this article http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2012/12/how-leonard-cohens-hallelujah-became-everybodys-hallelujah/265900/ that says it is Imogen Heap's version of the song that plays over Marisa's death scene. Didn't want to make the edit since I can't read the referenced article that claims it to be Buckley's version, but I don't think that is accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.137.21 ( talk) 16:35, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
If anyone wants to add info to this article, I saw that Rolling Stone published a big 2012 story on it here. Happy editing! -- Ssilvers ( talk) 04:16, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Is Jeff Buckley's association with this song so important that he should have a sidebar with his picture, etc.? An argument in favor is that Buckley has, indeed, been important to the song's popularity. But I see more reasons against: (a) The song is extremely widely covered, so singling out one cover artist with a sidebar seems excessive. (b) Because the song is widely covered and because Buckley's version is often used in US media, there stands some chance that he could be mistaken for the author; having his picture in the article increases the chances of confusion. (c) I hate the precedent.. are we going to give William Shatner a sidebar in Sir Elton John's "Rocket Man" article? Does Johnny Cash get a sidebar in NiN's "Hurt" article? Etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.15.88.9 ( talk) 00:48, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
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"Written in the key of C major, the chord progression matches lyrics from the song: "goes like this, the fourth, the fifth, the minor fall, and the major lift": C, F, G, A minor, F.[4]"
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There's a lot of blah blah about the "lyrical interpretation" (meaning) of the song in the first paragraph, but nothing factual about the original recording. For example: who where the musicians and who did the backing vocals. Can anyone find these data and add them to that paragraph? Wiki klaas 19:57, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
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I’ve added a note in the
Chart positions section, requiring entries to be a) in the top ten b) of a national or other major chart and c) verified. And I’ve removed any that aren’t.
I’ve left the listing for Leonard Cohens version, but I don’t know which is worse; having it in, or not having it in. It seems wrong to me somehow that every other bugger is making money out of the song except him.
Swanny18 (
talk)
18:29, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
I took an item out of this section, as its best chart position was 24th; this was reverterd with the summary
"Threshold is unreasonably high and would preclude the song's original version"
I don't know how many times this has been discussed, but we can always do it again. I thought any top ten placement was being generous, and that any threshold is going to upset anyone who's favoured version is outside of it; but: If not that, what would be a reasonable threshold for inclusion?
Swanny18 (
talk)
17:41, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
The text
here says
“
Bon Jovi has covered the song several times in concert, including on their 2008
Live at Madison Square Garden DVD, and Cohen rates their version as his favorite.
source
Que? Does anyone have another source for this? This
source reckons the BJ version is one of the worst(though, thinking laterally, that doesn’t mean it isn’t Cohen's favourite) But the k.d lang section claims that to be his favourite, so it’d be nice to clarify it.
Swanny18 (
talk)
04:05, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
I've heard a version of Hallelujah that I think is Freddie Mercury. However, I see no mention of such a version on the page. If there is a Mercury version, please add discussion thereof. If there isn't I would be grateful for the addition of a comment indicating which one sounds like him (particularly around the lyric --the fourth the fifth, the minor fall, the major lift) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.0.112.164 ( talk) 22:10, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
Refs 20 and 32 are redundant, both to the same search page at BNI. Could someone show me how to combine these refs (so they both link to cite #20 and the overall no. of cites is reduced by one)? I'm horrible at that sort of thing. Thanks. Abrazame ( talk) 23:26, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
I don't think the vocal range information is correct - E4 is by no means a low pitch, and just by hearing it I can hear notes as low as E3. I can't see the sheet music (and I'm not going to buy it just to prove a wikipedia article wrong), so could someone verify the full vocal range? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.77.20.92 ( talk) 13:11, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
1996 - Enrique Morente, spanish flamenco singer, recorded "Omega", and album with Federico Garcia Lorca poems and Leonard Cohen songs, it was a mix of flamenco and rock, with a "hallelujah" cover called "Aleluya". http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrique_Morente —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.154.82.119 ( talk) 09:27, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
There seems to be an unnecessary extra space between the singles chronology and the music video link in the infobox for the Alexandra Burke version. It would be a minor improvement on the degree to which the infobox extends into the next section if someone could figure out a way for this space to be omitted. I've tried two or three things and can't seem to get anywhere. I would note that the previous version has a music video link that does not have this space above it, although as it was a supergroup version, there isn't a chronology in that box—might that be the source of the problem? Not a big issue, but if someone knows how, it would be a helpful tuck here. Abrazame ( talk) 20:33, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Susan Boyle's cover was ranked #15 by the Village Voice on their "20 Worst Songs of 2010" list. The discussion can be found here:
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2010/12/the_20_worst_so_5.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.87.163.106 ( talk) 14:24, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Nynke Laverman ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nynke_Laverman)recorded a version in the Frisian language for the compilation "Cohen in het Fries" (www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuE_hT0VZXQ)
Opera superstar Renee Fleming recorded a version on her album "Dark Hope" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Hope)
Aonsman ( talk) 03:56, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
In a recent series of edits, I trimmed some excess verbiage. Among these edits, this was by far the most substantial. For it, I accidentally checked the option "This is a minor edit". Sorry! -- Hoary ( talk) 01:37, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
The use of a line of lyrics to explain chord progression, expecially since it is discussing the topic, is allowed per WP:LYRICS. Quoting a lyric in this purpose is fair use, see Copyrighted works.-- ☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(talk) 11:34, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
I've also personally heard covers by Molly Sanden in Swedish and Dani Youssef in Arabic (an interesting one as it's translated as "Hamdoulillah.") Not sure if that's important but yes, there are more covers. etothei ( talk) 18:36, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of the completely different (religious)lyrics written and sung by Kelley Mooney in 2010 ? Jmn71440 ( talk) 10:38, 20 April 2014 (UTC)jmn71440
There's a link (which I can't read in full) that lists the show The OC as using Juff Buckley's version. From my own memory, that's not true. Then I found this article http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2012/12/how-leonard-cohens-hallelujah-became-everybodys-hallelujah/265900/ that says it is Imogen Heap's version of the song that plays over Marisa's death scene. Didn't want to make the edit since I can't read the referenced article that claims it to be Buckley's version, but I don't think that is accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.137.21 ( talk) 16:35, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
If anyone wants to add info to this article, I saw that Rolling Stone published a big 2012 story on it here. Happy editing! -- Ssilvers ( talk) 04:16, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Is Jeff Buckley's association with this song so important that he should have a sidebar with his picture, etc.? An argument in favor is that Buckley has, indeed, been important to the song's popularity. But I see more reasons against: (a) The song is extremely widely covered, so singling out one cover artist with a sidebar seems excessive. (b) Because the song is widely covered and because Buckley's version is often used in US media, there stands some chance that he could be mistaken for the author; having his picture in the article increases the chances of confusion. (c) I hate the precedent.. are we going to give William Shatner a sidebar in Sir Elton John's "Rocket Man" article? Does Johnny Cash get a sidebar in NiN's "Hurt" article? Etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.15.88.9 ( talk) 00:48, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
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"Written in the key of C major, the chord progression matches lyrics from the song: "goes like this, the fourth, the fifth, the minor fall, and the major lift": C, F, G, A minor, F.[4]"
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There's a lot of blah blah about the "lyrical interpretation" (meaning) of the song in the first paragraph, but nothing factual about the original recording. For example: who where the musicians and who did the backing vocals. Can anyone find these data and add them to that paragraph? Wiki klaas 19:57, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
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