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Is Edvard Grieg chopped liver!?!?!? A disambiguation page is sorely required... never done one, must study Tim Bray 07:51, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Hall of the Mountain King (album) → Hall of the Mountain King — hatnote takes care of the people who meant to go to In the Hall of the Mountain King — JHunterJ 12:44, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
This article has been renamed from Hall of the Mountain King (album) to Hall of the Mountain King as the result of a move request. There is no other article titled "Hall of the Mountain King", and a hatlink will direct people to In the Hall of the Mountain King without any problems. -- Stemonitis 06:39, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
I hate to open a can of worms again, but...
It was a mistake to move this article back Hall of the Mountain King (album). The Edvard Grieg piece is by far the most widely recognized use of the name "Hall of the Mountain King." If you were to ask a hundred passersby what "The Hall of the Mountain King" means, almost everyone who could answer that question would name the Grieg music. Even those (like me) who did not know the name of the composer would at least know that it is a piece of classical music.
I do not mean any disrespect to fans of the Savatage album, but I think this is the wrong approach for Wikipedia. The article titled "Hall of the Mountain King" should direct users to the article that most of them are likely to be looking for. The smaller number of readers who are looking for this album will be able to follow a disambiguation link back here. Tim Pierce 20:48, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
"hall of the mountain king" -"in the hall of the mountain king" savatage
"hall of the mountain king" -"in the hall of the mountain king" grieg
Using JHunterJ's search strings, it does indeed seem that when "Hall of the Mountain King" is used alone (not preceded by "In The"), it more commonly refers to the Savatage album. It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. -- Stemonitis 10:07, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Here's an alternative suggestion: what about making Hall of the Mountain King a disambiguation page, pointing to (let's say) In the Hall of the Mountain King and Hall of the Mountain King (album)? Tim Pierce 15:32, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
It would be nice to see the album's concept plot in the page. I added a review that contains it as an external link, but I'm not sure it's correct or if the author took creative liberty.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.82.170.208 ( talk • contribs) 05:14, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
It lists Clay Melton as one of the professional reviews. This is a completely biased review as it was commissioned by the band and featured on the band's official website, let alone uses insider knowledge to paint a picture of the album. This review does not follow wikipedia's guide for reviews re: it's not unbiased or by a source independent of the artist. Further, even if it is an independent review, the band has chosen to list only this reviewer on their website as the "official band review", versus the common approach of a page of all reviews and press, good and bad. Actually, many of the Savatage albums either list Clay Melton or Jim Gordon, but both link to the same official band website and neither should be included as professional reviews. Particularly, as reading the reviews one will find that they include insider information about the making of the albums. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.64.113.160 ( talk) 21:05, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to "Hall of the Mountain King (album)". There is no consensus for the target of "Hall of the Mountain King" (the disambig page vs. "In the Hall..."), so a proposal/discussion is warranted. czar ♔ 16:20, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Hall of the Mountain King →
Hall of the Mountain King (album) – Restore - this should never have been moved, previous RM had 1 support 1 oppose and evidently wasn't widely notified. Either the base name should redirect to the classical
In the Hall of the Mountain King which the album's theme is based on, or
Hall of the Mountain King (disambiguation) should move over the baseline.
In ictu oculi (
talk) 00:59, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
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Is Edvard Grieg chopped liver!?!?!? A disambiguation page is sorely required... never done one, must study Tim Bray 07:51, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Hall of the Mountain King (album) → Hall of the Mountain King — hatnote takes care of the people who meant to go to In the Hall of the Mountain King — JHunterJ 12:44, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
This article has been renamed from Hall of the Mountain King (album) to Hall of the Mountain King as the result of a move request. There is no other article titled "Hall of the Mountain King", and a hatlink will direct people to In the Hall of the Mountain King without any problems. -- Stemonitis 06:39, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
I hate to open a can of worms again, but...
It was a mistake to move this article back Hall of the Mountain King (album). The Edvard Grieg piece is by far the most widely recognized use of the name "Hall of the Mountain King." If you were to ask a hundred passersby what "The Hall of the Mountain King" means, almost everyone who could answer that question would name the Grieg music. Even those (like me) who did not know the name of the composer would at least know that it is a piece of classical music.
I do not mean any disrespect to fans of the Savatage album, but I think this is the wrong approach for Wikipedia. The article titled "Hall of the Mountain King" should direct users to the article that most of them are likely to be looking for. The smaller number of readers who are looking for this album will be able to follow a disambiguation link back here. Tim Pierce 20:48, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
"hall of the mountain king" -"in the hall of the mountain king" savatage
"hall of the mountain king" -"in the hall of the mountain king" grieg
Using JHunterJ's search strings, it does indeed seem that when "Hall of the Mountain King" is used alone (not preceded by "In The"), it more commonly refers to the Savatage album. It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. -- Stemonitis 10:07, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Here's an alternative suggestion: what about making Hall of the Mountain King a disambiguation page, pointing to (let's say) In the Hall of the Mountain King and Hall of the Mountain King (album)? Tim Pierce 15:32, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
It would be nice to see the album's concept plot in the page. I added a review that contains it as an external link, but I'm not sure it's correct or if the author took creative liberty.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.82.170.208 ( talk • contribs) 05:14, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
It lists Clay Melton as one of the professional reviews. This is a completely biased review as it was commissioned by the band and featured on the band's official website, let alone uses insider knowledge to paint a picture of the album. This review does not follow wikipedia's guide for reviews re: it's not unbiased or by a source independent of the artist. Further, even if it is an independent review, the band has chosen to list only this reviewer on their website as the "official band review", versus the common approach of a page of all reviews and press, good and bad. Actually, many of the Savatage albums either list Clay Melton or Jim Gordon, but both link to the same official band website and neither should be included as professional reviews. Particularly, as reading the reviews one will find that they include insider information about the making of the albums. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.64.113.160 ( talk) 21:05, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to "Hall of the Mountain King (album)". There is no consensus for the target of "Hall of the Mountain King" (the disambig page vs. "In the Hall..."), so a proposal/discussion is warranted. czar ♔ 16:20, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Hall of the Mountain King →
Hall of the Mountain King (album) – Restore - this should never have been moved, previous RM had 1 support 1 oppose and evidently wasn't widely notified. Either the base name should redirect to the classical
In the Hall of the Mountain King which the album's theme is based on, or
Hall of the Mountain King (disambiguation) should move over the baseline.
In ictu oculi (
talk) 00:59, 6 September 2014 (UTC)