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Just a note: Phantasia is not the sequel to Symphonia in the strictest sense - as it came before. Symphonia can be considered a prequel though. jptdrake 04:11, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
It would be nice if someone provided the original Old Norse word for Half-elf. -- Arny 10:59, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
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As of the time of this writing, there is a brief explanation of what an Half-Elf is, a couple of examples from Norse mythology, and a list of appearances in modern popular culture. 84.80.20.172 ( talk) 19:25, 24 June 2008 (UTC) |
Last edited at 19:25, 24 June 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 17:00, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
I am trying to parse the last sentence of the lede. This is the best I could come up with, but it still makes no sense to me:
Scholars have considered
- the meaning of
- the choices made by Lúthien and Arwen,
- combining love and death,
- family loyalty,
- immortality,
- fate, and
- faith
- that
- through letting go,
- the light can be reached,
- whereas holding on,
- while natural,
- is actually folly.
jnestorius( talk) 09:38, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
No, there are multiple scholars who touch on these themes, and Flieger is widely seen as foremost, so the recent edit is misguided and needlessly destructive. I'll rewrite the paragraph. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 06:29, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
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Okay I'll take a look, make straightforward copyedits as I go and jot notes below....
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Casliber, Chiswick Chap, where does this nomination stand? It's been a month since the article was last edited, and the belated attempt at a ping just above this section wouldn't have worked (pings have to made in the same edit as a new sig, which didn't happen above). Thank you very much. BlueMoonset ( talk) 02:13, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
I'm awaiting input. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 05:08, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
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2. Factually accurate and verifiable?:
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4. Reflects a neutral point of view?:
5. Reasonably stable?
6. Illustrated by images, when possible and appropriate?:
Overall:
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but at the time of his conception, both his mother and father were fully mortal, and therefore he was, no? Any discussion of his Elvish and Maiarin blood and consequent "half-mortality" (or really any sort of half-elvishness) must thus be rather confusing and/or distracting for the average reader? AirshipJungleman29 ( talk) 17:51, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, but no, Luthien was an elf, whatever her changing mortality status. We can here only report on what Tolkien and scholars have written: any further reasoning is original research and we can't have that in articles or on talk pages. There are plenty of forums where you can discuss such matters. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 18:24, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
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Just a note: Phantasia is not the sequel to Symphonia in the strictest sense - as it came before. Symphonia can be considered a prequel though. jptdrake 04:11, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
It would be nice if someone provided the original Old Norse word for Half-elf. -- Arny 10:59, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Half-elf/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
As of the time of this writing, there is a brief explanation of what an Half-Elf is, a couple of examples from Norse mythology, and a list of appearances in modern popular culture. 84.80.20.172 ( talk) 19:25, 24 June 2008 (UTC) |
Last edited at 19:25, 24 June 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 17:00, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
I am trying to parse the last sentence of the lede. This is the best I could come up with, but it still makes no sense to me:
Scholars have considered
- the meaning of
- the choices made by Lúthien and Arwen,
- combining love and death,
- family loyalty,
- immortality,
- fate, and
- faith
- that
- through letting go,
- the light can be reached,
- whereas holding on,
- while natural,
- is actually folly.
jnestorius( talk) 09:38, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
No, there are multiple scholars who touch on these themes, and Flieger is widely seen as foremost, so the recent edit is misguided and needlessly destructive. I'll rewrite the paragraph. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 06:29, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Casliber ( talk · contribs) 13:38, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
Okay I'll take a look, make straightforward copyedits as I go and jot notes below....
Cas Liber (
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13:38, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
Casliber, Chiswick Chap, where does this nomination stand? It's been a month since the article was last edited, and the belated attempt at a ping just above this section wouldn't have worked (pings have to made in the same edit as a new sig, which didn't happen above). Thank you very much. BlueMoonset ( talk) 02:13, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
I'm awaiting input. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 05:08, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
1. Well written?:
2. Factually accurate and verifiable?:
3. Broad in coverage?:
4. Reflects a neutral point of view?:
5. Reasonably stable?
6. Illustrated by images, when possible and appropriate?:
Overall:
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but at the time of his conception, both his mother and father were fully mortal, and therefore he was, no? Any discussion of his Elvish and Maiarin blood and consequent "half-mortality" (or really any sort of half-elvishness) must thus be rather confusing and/or distracting for the average reader? AirshipJungleman29 ( talk) 17:51, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, but no, Luthien was an elf, whatever her changing mortality status. We can here only report on what Tolkien and scholars have written: any further reasoning is original research and we can't have that in articles or on talk pages. There are plenty of forums where you can discuss such matters. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 18:24, 19 April 2022 (UTC)