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"The unreleased report of the US military investigation into the event is said to have found that 24 unarmed Iraqis, including 11 women and children, were killed by 12 members of the US Marines" Is said by whom???? 70.114.32.133 02:22, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
"According to James Crossen, who was sitting next to Terrazas when the roadside bomb exploded, women and children in the area often helped insurgents. It's likely, according to Crossen, that women and children had given information on US patrols to insurgents which led to the roadside bomb attack.[4] In addition, Terrazas' father said other marines told him they were fighting with insurgents who used civilians as human shields."
How is the above relevant to the story now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.118.184.104 ( talk • contribs)
And if supposedly they were helping do the marines have the right to shoot innocent unarmed women and children civilians? And if they used the children as sheilds as you claim where would the insurgents disappear behind the human sheild?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Alromaithi ( talk • contribs)
If they were helping the insurgents then they wouldn't be innocent or civilians. 03:13, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
If this paragraph is irrelevant, then so is the one "The unreleased report of the US military investigation into the event is said to have found that 24 unarmed Iraqis, including 11 women and children, were killed by 12 Marines from the unit, apparently in retaliation for the death of Terrazas,[6] and two captains and a lieutenant colonel have been relieved of duty.[7]" Mentioning supposed results of an unreleased report about an incomplete investigation is relevant, but what marines on site said is irrelevant? (FJC)
Expect the trolls to flock to this article. Just you wait. Haizum 04:08, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
There should be a separate article about the Haditha Massacre. The information about the event is slowing leaking and an official report is expected within 30 days. The segment about the massacre is only going to get larger and more detailed. It only seems fair to have a separate article. -- nobody 20:45, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree. The information about the incident should remain separate. But if information supporting "massacre" is in this article, then information from the other side, that maybe it wasn't a massacre, must also be included.
Surely there must be more to Haditha than being the place where a few Marines went on a trigger-happy rampage? GiollaUidir 18:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Haditha or Hadithah as it is also spelled is a common arabic town name. There is a "hadithah, jordan" and a "hadithah, saudi arabia". I believe the correct name for this town is "al-hadithah, Iraq".
I am speculating the name derives from Hadith an islamic concept that has spawned it's own Category:Hadith -- Paul E. Ester 01:53, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
No my friend it has nothing to do with Hadith. Haditha has a completely different meaining which is (new).
I wrote the sentence above and it is correct. I just didn't sign it. "No my friend it has nothing to do with Hadith. Haditha has a completely different meaining which is (new)." Yes "Al-Haditha" is the correct spelling but like my name it has diiferent variations: "Alhaditha", "Alhadeetha" "Al Hadetha" but the popular spelling should be "Al-Haditha". Alromaithi 23:21, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
And Hadith doesn't mean "new"? Zsero 03:13, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
The guardian puts the population of haditha at 150,000 Simon Jeffery and agencies Pro-US mayor killed by Iraqi guerrillas Guardian Wednesday July 16, 2003
I'm working on a new infobox template for Iraqi places, incorporating a new style of locator maps - the Haditha article is the testbed. Please bear with me until I'm finished. -- ChrisO 17:27, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Is 'stars and stripes' really the best source availible for the events described in this section?;
In 2004, U.S. troops left a local police force in charge of the city and insurgents rounded up dozens of local police officers and publicly executed them in a soccer stadium
I'm not disputing that these events took place in the way described(although i seem to remember other reports saying it was a sectarian death squad rather than 'insurgents'). But a source that is primarily staffed by the US military for the sole readership of the US military and heavily subsidized by the US DOD isn't exactly the most ideal source for events in which the US military was an actor. 81.132.51.161 21:56, 6 February 2007 (UTC) Elmo
"A US marine, charged with murdering unarmed Iraqi civilians in Haditha in 2005, said he regrets the deaths but would make the same decisions again." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6456969.stm -- 87.127.117.246 08:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
I suggest changing the heading of this section to the title of the WP article addressing this issue, "Haditha Killings".
Also, I think there should be a source for the claim regarding libel lawsuits that "...by law, members of Congress are generally immune from such lawsuits." As I recall, that this IS the case, but I also think that Rep. Murtha made the comments at a press conference and not on the House floor, which might make a difference in this particular libel suit. -Banjo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.27.81 ( talk) 02:20, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
If the enemy had established a Taliban-like terror-theocracy in Haditha, that indicates that they may have been foreign jihadists, not home-grown resistance. Which is it, does anyone know? The Sanity Inspector 03:15, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Wow, this city has way more history than what you people talk about. I'm sure you all can point fingers for years and talk all about Haditha killings while you're relaxing on the couch all day. Its a shame that noone that's posted on here knows whats really going on and hasn't gotten their hands dirty. Oh and guess what, Haditha has become the safest city in Anbar and one of the safest in all Iraq. Now lets figure out who put the work in to make that happen...
Do a little more homework on Haditha.
شوكران ابو اليسن —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.156.58.34 ( talk) 19:55, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
There should be something about the resistance against ISIL. Quoting Al Jazeera: Al Jazeera's Iraq editor Hamed Hadeed said Haditha plays a major role in the country's conflict because of its strategic location and unparalleled resistance to ISIL. "Haditha serves as a significant transportation route between the western regions of Anbar, the central province of Salahuddin, and northern governorate of Nineveh. It is also the only city in Anbar province that has been able to block ISIL's repeated attempts to control it. "One of ISIL's ultimate ambitions is to avenge the tribal forces," Hadeed reported. [1]
Haxtibel ( talk) 15:17, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
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"The unreleased report of the US military investigation into the event is said to have found that 24 unarmed Iraqis, including 11 women and children, were killed by 12 members of the US Marines" Is said by whom???? 70.114.32.133 02:22, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
"According to James Crossen, who was sitting next to Terrazas when the roadside bomb exploded, women and children in the area often helped insurgents. It's likely, according to Crossen, that women and children had given information on US patrols to insurgents which led to the roadside bomb attack.[4] In addition, Terrazas' father said other marines told him they were fighting with insurgents who used civilians as human shields."
How is the above relevant to the story now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.118.184.104 ( talk • contribs)
And if supposedly they were helping do the marines have the right to shoot innocent unarmed women and children civilians? And if they used the children as sheilds as you claim where would the insurgents disappear behind the human sheild?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Alromaithi ( talk • contribs)
If they were helping the insurgents then they wouldn't be innocent or civilians. 03:13, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
If this paragraph is irrelevant, then so is the one "The unreleased report of the US military investigation into the event is said to have found that 24 unarmed Iraqis, including 11 women and children, were killed by 12 Marines from the unit, apparently in retaliation for the death of Terrazas,[6] and two captains and a lieutenant colonel have been relieved of duty.[7]" Mentioning supposed results of an unreleased report about an incomplete investigation is relevant, but what marines on site said is irrelevant? (FJC)
Expect the trolls to flock to this article. Just you wait. Haizum 04:08, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
There should be a separate article about the Haditha Massacre. The information about the event is slowing leaking and an official report is expected within 30 days. The segment about the massacre is only going to get larger and more detailed. It only seems fair to have a separate article. -- nobody 20:45, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree. The information about the incident should remain separate. But if information supporting "massacre" is in this article, then information from the other side, that maybe it wasn't a massacre, must also be included.
Surely there must be more to Haditha than being the place where a few Marines went on a trigger-happy rampage? GiollaUidir 18:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Haditha or Hadithah as it is also spelled is a common arabic town name. There is a "hadithah, jordan" and a "hadithah, saudi arabia". I believe the correct name for this town is "al-hadithah, Iraq".
I am speculating the name derives from Hadith an islamic concept that has spawned it's own Category:Hadith -- Paul E. Ester 01:53, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
No my friend it has nothing to do with Hadith. Haditha has a completely different meaining which is (new).
I wrote the sentence above and it is correct. I just didn't sign it. "No my friend it has nothing to do with Hadith. Haditha has a completely different meaining which is (new)." Yes "Al-Haditha" is the correct spelling but like my name it has diiferent variations: "Alhaditha", "Alhadeetha" "Al Hadetha" but the popular spelling should be "Al-Haditha". Alromaithi 23:21, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
And Hadith doesn't mean "new"? Zsero 03:13, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
The guardian puts the population of haditha at 150,000 Simon Jeffery and agencies Pro-US mayor killed by Iraqi guerrillas Guardian Wednesday July 16, 2003
I'm working on a new infobox template for Iraqi places, incorporating a new style of locator maps - the Haditha article is the testbed. Please bear with me until I'm finished. -- ChrisO 17:27, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Is 'stars and stripes' really the best source availible for the events described in this section?;
In 2004, U.S. troops left a local police force in charge of the city and insurgents rounded up dozens of local police officers and publicly executed them in a soccer stadium
I'm not disputing that these events took place in the way described(although i seem to remember other reports saying it was a sectarian death squad rather than 'insurgents'). But a source that is primarily staffed by the US military for the sole readership of the US military and heavily subsidized by the US DOD isn't exactly the most ideal source for events in which the US military was an actor. 81.132.51.161 21:56, 6 February 2007 (UTC) Elmo
"A US marine, charged with murdering unarmed Iraqi civilians in Haditha in 2005, said he regrets the deaths but would make the same decisions again." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6456969.stm -- 87.127.117.246 08:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
I suggest changing the heading of this section to the title of the WP article addressing this issue, "Haditha Killings".
Also, I think there should be a source for the claim regarding libel lawsuits that "...by law, members of Congress are generally immune from such lawsuits." As I recall, that this IS the case, but I also think that Rep. Murtha made the comments at a press conference and not on the House floor, which might make a difference in this particular libel suit. -Banjo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.27.81 ( talk) 02:20, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
If the enemy had established a Taliban-like terror-theocracy in Haditha, that indicates that they may have been foreign jihadists, not home-grown resistance. Which is it, does anyone know? The Sanity Inspector 03:15, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Wow, this city has way more history than what you people talk about. I'm sure you all can point fingers for years and talk all about Haditha killings while you're relaxing on the couch all day. Its a shame that noone that's posted on here knows whats really going on and hasn't gotten their hands dirty. Oh and guess what, Haditha has become the safest city in Anbar and one of the safest in all Iraq. Now lets figure out who put the work in to make that happen...
Do a little more homework on Haditha.
شوكران ابو اليسن —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.156.58.34 ( talk) 19:55, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
There should be something about the resistance against ISIL. Quoting Al Jazeera: Al Jazeera's Iraq editor Hamed Hadeed said Haditha plays a major role in the country's conflict because of its strategic location and unparalleled resistance to ISIL. "Haditha serves as a significant transportation route between the western regions of Anbar, the central province of Salahuddin, and northern governorate of Nineveh. It is also the only city in Anbar province that has been able to block ISIL's repeated attempts to control it. "One of ISIL's ultimate ambitions is to avenge the tribal forces," Hadeed reported. [1]
Haxtibel ( talk) 15:17, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
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