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The content of this page is temporary. Most of the substantive content will be moved to London Borough of Hackney. It should only contain information relating to the central area of Hackney, broadly the area surrounding the top of Mare Street near the Town Hall.
The old 'hackney' is being replaced with a disambiguation page that will lead here, to the modern borough and to the old LCC borough and to other meaning of 'hackney'. Tarquin Binary 13:53, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
Didn't quite implement the above. Too many links to Hackney (geographical) exist to force users to go through a disambiguation. So we have now:
Besides cleaning this up, hope to add more substantive content to all the Hackney pages. Tarquin Binary 15:56, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
(In the meantime, Hackney (central) now dropped in favour of Hackney Central to match the station)
OK, poor old Hackney Central is now a real stub, because much of the material has been moved to the borough. But it deserves better, since it is the historic centre, and would have been what any one would have understood to be Hackney up until the 1899 reorganisation.
Fortunately there is no shortage of material on this district, so will work up an historical essay soonest. And there are plenty of local links available. Tarquin Binary 13:08, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
Note for future reference. We have no stub for Kingsland for some reason... Tarquin Binary 13:44, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I know it's a rubbish pic. Was helping a friend with their shopping, unfamiliar camera, sun in the wrong place (hence the white sky) etc etc. Will get a better one soonest, plus one of the Town Hall for the Borough page.
Anyone know how I could get the pic to appear above the infobox? Tarquin Binary 15:13, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I did some revision of the Hackney Central page in July, mainly using Homerton and Stoke Newington as templates. I think most of the changes you made to that revision make sense - so, no great argument there. At the time I was just disappointed that Wiki had so little to say on Hackney and in particular the local area!
I have been thinking about what more can be said; there's a good article on Stepney/Whitechapel area that I thought I would aspire to equal on the locality. As equally old settlements, Hackney Central and Homerton have just as much history! I do have some more information on Sutton House - written by the property manager - but I will have to edit furiously to make it suitable as a dictionary entry for inclusion, and will, of course bow, to any further edits the community sees fit. Unregistered user - Kevin 08:20, 05 September 2005 (UTC)
Sorry removed 'Hackney Independent' - they're with all the other parties under LBH. Have concerns about the 'about Hackney' site, it seems to just contain local advertising - and to have an 'abandoned air' about it!
Over a year later, still vaguely planning to write some history for this page and Homerton.: User: kbthompson 01:36 15 July 2006
OK, added a 'Historical Hackney' section. This is a beginning - surprisingly little to say about Hackney village, all the historical action seemed to be in Homerton! Linked to St Augustine's Tower & Hackney (parish). Swapped images on the page, so they appeared in right section. Also, done a more extensive Homerton history section. I'd also previously done a 'cultural quarter' section. Some may disagree, but it reflects how the council sees the 'town square' and groups together some of the important local institutions. Anyone else active in Hackney (Tarquin?) I would value your feedback Kbthompson 10:50, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Basically, Mrsteviec, I like it a lot. Much cooler than the old district boxes. But doesn't it risk getting slapped down by the WikiLondon Project people as being non-standard?
Tarquin Binary 16:57, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
On Channel 4 UK's Television Programme "The Best And Worst Places To Live In The UK" 2006, which was broadcast on Channel 4 UK on the 26th October 2006, it was officially branded as the Worst Place In The UK To Live In: 2006.
Was added here today by an anonymous user, while it may be factual that the TV programme occurred, its subject was the London Borough of Hackney. By the criteria of another channel 4 programme, LBH is one of the best places to buy and invest ... So, yer pays yer money, and takes your choice ... but this particular article is about a district in Hackney; and not one about LBH. So, the note is misplaced here. Kbthompson 22:45, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS to move page, per discussion below. - GTBacchus( talk) 01:50, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Hackney Central → Hackney, London — It is actually called Hackney. This is also a common name Simply south 16:03, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Oppose discussion below Kbthompson 17:19, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Welcome your comments, although I think it makes sense to keep Hackney Central, it is, as you say an argument that affects the way most of London is presented. I just don't want to be the one to write "Hackney, London in the London Borough of Hackney (known popularly as Hackney), but we're specifically referring to the area around the churchyard and Hackney central station" - which is where I see us ending up. 8^) Kbthompson 09:38, 17 January 2007 (UTC) (it was late, I forgot to sign it, sorry)
I promised to have a think about the boundaries of the area (on 16 Jan). In common with much of London, they are more than a little fuzzy. So, any comments welcomed.
So, the new church was built on church field, an empty field dividing Hackney village from Upper Homerton; and Clapton Sq in Upper Homerton/Lower Clapton. It being the only place left to build, until the railway came through and Victorian developers tore down the medieval heart of the village and replaced it with much what we see today.
Any comments on that view? The current Georgian Hackney section is a little geographically challenged, hopping around what seems to be the metropolitan borough. I don't want to discourage the editor, but a lot of it seems to be taken wholesale from Hackney walks (copyright), and is repeated (verbatim) in a page on Clapton Square. Kbthompson 08:59, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Hackney Downs (ward) has an independent existence around the common, I'd have to look in the histories, but Hackney village didn't extend that far, and I don't think there was a village there. There was probably a 'grand house' in the way. The brook meandered up in that direction. Amhurst Road was driven through at the time of the railways (1850s), and took land from the houses on Church St (Narrow Way). Mid-1800s VH mentions long avenues of dwellings at Hackney Downs, threatened by the railways. You might be right, but 'Hackney village' has no modern existence (except possibly as an estate agent's dream). Hackney Central exists, and while not conterminous with Hackney village, it's as near as these things ever get. The pockets of Georgian development were located outside Hackney Central (except possibly for the square north of Well St (now surrounded by flats, see 'Lost Hackney'), and an early Georgian mansion on the west side of Mare Street, used as a social club). Hackney village is used in the Victoria History of Middx, but only really up to about the mid-19th, it would make sense, if it weren't for the houses inbetween. This 1805 map shows the relationship of the villages, and subsequent development. Kbthompson 16:18, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
A new, more concise infobox has been implemented for UK places. I've applied it here, but in checking I notice that the coordinates are wildly wrong, placing Hackney Central in the middle of London Fields. The pin in this case should at least be on Mare St, or the Narrow Way (I feel). Kbthompson 15:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
If this info is important then please make it sensible. (I would rewrite it but I don't know what much of it is trying to say.) Thanks. Derekbd ( talk) 04:08, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
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The content of this page is temporary. Most of the substantive content will be moved to London Borough of Hackney. It should only contain information relating to the central area of Hackney, broadly the area surrounding the top of Mare Street near the Town Hall.
The old 'hackney' is being replaced with a disambiguation page that will lead here, to the modern borough and to the old LCC borough and to other meaning of 'hackney'. Tarquin Binary 13:53, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
Didn't quite implement the above. Too many links to Hackney (geographical) exist to force users to go through a disambiguation. So we have now:
Besides cleaning this up, hope to add more substantive content to all the Hackney pages. Tarquin Binary 15:56, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
(In the meantime, Hackney (central) now dropped in favour of Hackney Central to match the station)
OK, poor old Hackney Central is now a real stub, because much of the material has been moved to the borough. But it deserves better, since it is the historic centre, and would have been what any one would have understood to be Hackney up until the 1899 reorganisation.
Fortunately there is no shortage of material on this district, so will work up an historical essay soonest. And there are plenty of local links available. Tarquin Binary 13:08, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
Note for future reference. We have no stub for Kingsland for some reason... Tarquin Binary 13:44, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I know it's a rubbish pic. Was helping a friend with their shopping, unfamiliar camera, sun in the wrong place (hence the white sky) etc etc. Will get a better one soonest, plus one of the Town Hall for the Borough page.
Anyone know how I could get the pic to appear above the infobox? Tarquin Binary 15:13, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I did some revision of the Hackney Central page in July, mainly using Homerton and Stoke Newington as templates. I think most of the changes you made to that revision make sense - so, no great argument there. At the time I was just disappointed that Wiki had so little to say on Hackney and in particular the local area!
I have been thinking about what more can be said; there's a good article on Stepney/Whitechapel area that I thought I would aspire to equal on the locality. As equally old settlements, Hackney Central and Homerton have just as much history! I do have some more information on Sutton House - written by the property manager - but I will have to edit furiously to make it suitable as a dictionary entry for inclusion, and will, of course bow, to any further edits the community sees fit. Unregistered user - Kevin 08:20, 05 September 2005 (UTC)
Sorry removed 'Hackney Independent' - they're with all the other parties under LBH. Have concerns about the 'about Hackney' site, it seems to just contain local advertising - and to have an 'abandoned air' about it!
Over a year later, still vaguely planning to write some history for this page and Homerton.: User: kbthompson 01:36 15 July 2006
OK, added a 'Historical Hackney' section. This is a beginning - surprisingly little to say about Hackney village, all the historical action seemed to be in Homerton! Linked to St Augustine's Tower & Hackney (parish). Swapped images on the page, so they appeared in right section. Also, done a more extensive Homerton history section. I'd also previously done a 'cultural quarter' section. Some may disagree, but it reflects how the council sees the 'town square' and groups together some of the important local institutions. Anyone else active in Hackney (Tarquin?) I would value your feedback Kbthompson 10:50, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Basically, Mrsteviec, I like it a lot. Much cooler than the old district boxes. But doesn't it risk getting slapped down by the WikiLondon Project people as being non-standard?
Tarquin Binary 16:57, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
On Channel 4 UK's Television Programme "The Best And Worst Places To Live In The UK" 2006, which was broadcast on Channel 4 UK on the 26th October 2006, it was officially branded as the Worst Place In The UK To Live In: 2006.
Was added here today by an anonymous user, while it may be factual that the TV programme occurred, its subject was the London Borough of Hackney. By the criteria of another channel 4 programme, LBH is one of the best places to buy and invest ... So, yer pays yer money, and takes your choice ... but this particular article is about a district in Hackney; and not one about LBH. So, the note is misplaced here. Kbthompson 22:45, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS to move page, per discussion below. - GTBacchus( talk) 01:50, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Hackney Central → Hackney, London — It is actually called Hackney. This is also a common name Simply south 16:03, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Oppose discussion below Kbthompson 17:19, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Welcome your comments, although I think it makes sense to keep Hackney Central, it is, as you say an argument that affects the way most of London is presented. I just don't want to be the one to write "Hackney, London in the London Borough of Hackney (known popularly as Hackney), but we're specifically referring to the area around the churchyard and Hackney central station" - which is where I see us ending up. 8^) Kbthompson 09:38, 17 January 2007 (UTC) (it was late, I forgot to sign it, sorry)
I promised to have a think about the boundaries of the area (on 16 Jan). In common with much of London, they are more than a little fuzzy. So, any comments welcomed.
So, the new church was built on church field, an empty field dividing Hackney village from Upper Homerton; and Clapton Sq in Upper Homerton/Lower Clapton. It being the only place left to build, until the railway came through and Victorian developers tore down the medieval heart of the village and replaced it with much what we see today.
Any comments on that view? The current Georgian Hackney section is a little geographically challenged, hopping around what seems to be the metropolitan borough. I don't want to discourage the editor, but a lot of it seems to be taken wholesale from Hackney walks (copyright), and is repeated (verbatim) in a page on Clapton Square. Kbthompson 08:59, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Hackney Downs (ward) has an independent existence around the common, I'd have to look in the histories, but Hackney village didn't extend that far, and I don't think there was a village there. There was probably a 'grand house' in the way. The brook meandered up in that direction. Amhurst Road was driven through at the time of the railways (1850s), and took land from the houses on Church St (Narrow Way). Mid-1800s VH mentions long avenues of dwellings at Hackney Downs, threatened by the railways. You might be right, but 'Hackney village' has no modern existence (except possibly as an estate agent's dream). Hackney Central exists, and while not conterminous with Hackney village, it's as near as these things ever get. The pockets of Georgian development were located outside Hackney Central (except possibly for the square north of Well St (now surrounded by flats, see 'Lost Hackney'), and an early Georgian mansion on the west side of Mare Street, used as a social club). Hackney village is used in the Victoria History of Middx, but only really up to about the mid-19th, it would make sense, if it weren't for the houses inbetween. This 1805 map shows the relationship of the villages, and subsequent development. Kbthompson 16:18, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
A new, more concise infobox has been implemented for UK places. I've applied it here, but in checking I notice that the coordinates are wildly wrong, placing Hackney Central in the middle of London Fields. The pin in this case should at least be on Mare St, or the Narrow Way (I feel). Kbthompson 15:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
If this info is important then please make it sensible. (I would rewrite it but I don't know what much of it is trying to say.) Thanks. Derekbd ( talk) 04:08, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
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