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Why on Earth would someone want to run that inferior desktop anyway? Mind boggles ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.95.112.161 ( talk) 03:45, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Isn't it illegal as per Apple Mac OS X license agreement to run the OS on anything but an Apple computer? "This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time" - Refer [1]. Nowhere on the article is it mentioned that the project is illegal. -- Artagnon 14:49, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
The license says "This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time." Since the purpose of OSX86 is installing the software on non-"Apple-labeled computers," and the License does not prohibit this action, it seems to me that this project does not violate the license. It also seems to me that such a draconian measure, if it were properly phrased, may be questionably legal under Fair Use and similar laws anyway. -- Adam Katz Δ talk 19:02, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
As many have pointed out before, it allows you to use on an "Apple labeled" computer. Since it was not worded as "Apple manufactured" slapping an apple sticker on the computer would comply with the TOS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.114.81.149 ( talk) 06:48, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
(remove indent)As I stated in the article itself on Feb 17, 2006 in a ZDNet article called "DMCA axes sites discussing Mac OS for PCs" Tom Krazit stated "The company used a Trusted Platform Module, or TPM, to tie Mac OS to the systems it distributed to developers after announcing its switch to Intel's chips last year, but hackers have found ways to circumvent that protection, which is illegal under the DMCA." So there you have it. Nothing about Apple's EULA but rather a Federal Law! Amit Singn in the December 2007 MacOS X Internals article ""TPM DRM" In Mac OS X: A Myth That Won't Die" claimed it was actually the System Management Controller (SMC) chip that was used but again bypassing that chip would also be a violation of the DMCA.-- BruceGrubb ( talk) 08:48, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
IMPORTANT NOTE: Judge Alsup's November 13, 2009 summery verdict against Psystar on DMCA grounds indicates that this project is illegal as the DMCA clearly states "No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof, that— (A) is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title;"-- BruceGrubb ( talk) 06:22, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
If you have the software, you have the software. Apple can't write laws. The threat isn't supported by law, thus being irrelevant. They won't support OS X if you run it on a PC, but OS X is practically indestructible, so you shouldn't care. Jakeraymin13 ( talk) 18:44, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Has anyone considered comparing the benefits of various kernel versions with certain processors? This is something other sites have failed to do, and would be thoroughly useful for any OSX86 user. It is also of historical value if the judgment of OSX86 depends on how close one can get to approximating a fully functional MacOS setup on other hardware. (i.e. graphics acceleration, power management, sleep modes, multiple cores, 64-bit, NX bit, VT, etc.)
Actions should be taken. Vincent Pun talk 11:06, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Add a section called "Legality of OSx86" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.108.13.2 ( talk) 03:05, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Theres a bit too much jargon parts of it would be hard to understand for any one not completley familiar with this end of technology. For example the article discusses missing SSE3 instructions in early releases, what does that entail? What doesn't work because of missing SSE3 instructions ? that sort of thing. 72.147.77.11 ( talk) 09:51, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
This user, 172.188.187.67, may need to be blocked. The user repeatedly inserts a link to a practically content-free ad revenue site. The link is disguised with an OSx86 title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.205.56.11 ( talk) 20:06, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
the osx86project link should not be up there if the other sites like hackint0sh.org, osx86scene.org, and maconpc.org are not up there. the osx86project page is run by the same people that run insanely mac and if other sites are being removed it should go or they should all stay. It is unfair just to advertise one site on the topic when there are many others with just as much information on the topic. In general OSX86 users go between all four sites for information. It is the same principal as if you were to not mention linux and only microsoft on the operating systems article. It is unethical to have one and not the others so leave them all up as they provide useful information and it is in the interest of people who want to learn more about the topic.
and the osx86project blog isn't active anymore either. That site should not be advertised without the others. All the actual hacking for the project happens at hackint0sh. Links restored. People have a right to more than one source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The creator ( talk • contribs) 22:55, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Your link is to a site that gives you an option to go to the wiki or insanely mac another forum which is owned by insanely mac. If insanely mac is only included the the links section is biased. You should review the rules about unbiased articles. The other osx86 sites should be included. Hackint0sh.org is where most of the work gets done and people deserve to know about the other large osx86 sites. It is biased to only include one of them. If one large community is included in the article then the others should be to. It is only ethical. Hackint0sh, OSX86scene, and Maconpc are just as important to osx86 if not more than insanely mac. these links are not spam but to the other leading osx86 community. You fail to realise the osx86project link just gives you the option to go to two insanely mac owned sites. It would be the same as writing an article on broadcasting companies and only including CNN and not even mentioning the BBC, CBC, etc. Please cease and desist removing all links to osx86 communities except the one owned by insanley mac, this appears to be quite biased as they should all be removed or none at all. It is incontrovertible that only advertising CNN and not the BBC and CBC would be wrong and this is the exact same principal. I therefore take it upon my self to correct this misjudgement and re-establish the links in question as they are irrefutably just as important to osx86 which is what the entire article is about.
- the creator user:the creator 22nd of April, 8:16 pm DST —Preceding unsigned comment added by The creator ( talk • contribs) 03:17, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
No it goes to insanely mac or the project wiki page. you are misinformed though. this project is not limited to websites run by the owners of insanely mac. Most of it really takes place at hackint0sh.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by The creator ( talk • contribs) 03:31, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
The External Links section had by now grown to ten sites, most of them forums and blogs. I just cut the section down to one link, wiki.osx86project.org, because osx86project.org is the only site listed in Dmoz: Computers: Systems: Apple: Macintosh. If you would like other sites to have the same level of recognition as osx86project.org, then please have those other sites added to the Dmoz directory page, and then replace the osx86project.org link from this article with Template:Dmoz linking to the directory page. - Brian Kendig ( talk) 03:47, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
in fairness, either the osx86project.org link should go, or the others should be allowed.. the osx86project.org wiki is heavily out-of-date, poorly maintained, and commercial in nature. Whilst there is validity in the external links guidelines that there should not be a long list of links, in this case it seems relevant for both informational & historical reasons to provide links with impartial descriptions to a selection of the sites that were instrumental in the development of OSX86, which is, after all the topic in question. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.196.101.178 ( talk) 14:34, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
I have removed all external links per WP:LINKSPAM and WP:ELNO as well as possible WP:ELNEVER violations per Apple's November 27, 2008 charges that MacOS X contains "technological protection measures that effectively control access to Apple's copyrighted works" meaning that installing it on non-Apple hardware is in violation of the DMCA.-- BruceGrubb ( talk) 12:05, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
IMPORTANT NOTE: The November 13, 2009 decision in the Apple vs Psystar per DMCA makes any external links to sites that instruct you on how to install MacOS X on non Mac hardware possible violations of
WP:COPYRIGHT. "Knowingly and intentionally directing others to a site that violates copyright has been considered a form of contributory infringement in the United States (Intellectual Reserve v. Utah Lighthouse Ministry [1])." For this reason ALL external links should be discussed before being included.--
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hackintosh was also the name of a '90s mac/hacker oriented ezine. it was distributed as one of those self reading document apps iirc. it's where the alt.hackintosh newsgroup came from. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.193.194.181 ( talk) 21:37, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
no where does it mention the deadmoo iso image, which is in some places more popular than jas or other install dvds, although it is noted that deadmoo is distributed post-install as a vmware set, and a tiger.img file which is the hard drive image of the installation. (I personally used installed it to my harddrive via the linux dd command after reading other's success of using it). I just feel that it deserves to be mentioned in this article.
and all you mac fanatics out there who don't like your system being reduced to just expensive hardware, deal with it, os x is just proprietary unix anyway. (reference, my own dissecting of OS X on my own pc on top of my computer science major :)) . 71.204.234.179 ( talk) 07:43, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Folks, this is an encyclopedia and it has a reputation to loose. So please let us not (mis-) use it for dropping hacker's alias names. Build up an osx86 fan site, post your community stories there and WP might link to it. Thanks. -- Edoe2 ( talk) 15:17, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
hey wikians,
I think everyone has noticed that this page has become quite aged and stale. I think there is a lot of unnecessary jargon (as already noted) but more importantly a lack of recent developments being discussed. I've just finished up taking the time to write about the recent boot-132 method of installing Leopard and am about to apply my edits.
Best regards!
Mrdoomino ( talk) 00:21, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
NighTalon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.36.70.202 ( talk) 06:03, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Given the Apple vs Psystar case ruled that Apple's methods of linking MacOS X to Apple hardware was protected under the DMCA any Mac clone is on very shaky legal ground. Also with the exception of Psystar none of them are that notable.-- BruceGrubb ( talk) 20:16, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
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This build was used as a way to distribute goatse. There was a hoax that the build was available, but in fact, the materials spread goatse. It was widely spread. Yesitsnot ( talk) 04:58, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
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EFiX is confirmed to use real EFi implementation, but not emulation and is not based on any OSX86 project known till today. Test way i used to confirm this: I booted with EFiX V1.1 under Mac OS X Snow Leopard (10.6) and extracted via terminal so called ioreg "ioreg -lw0 > destination.txt"
Then i booted with seveal hackintosh solutions (Chameleon and other)and extracted also ioreg too, then i boot same OS and same revision of OS of course under Mac Pro and Mac Book Pro.
The Ioreg tables between EFiX and real Mac hardware are almost identical, in my opinion and according to the content of ioreg, which you can easy extract by your own, you will find that sometimes Mac OS X 10.6 booted with help of EFiX show better ioreg-log's than on a real apple hardware. How this guys this do, is not clear to me and for this article not relevant. When you compair ioreg log's finally to any hackintosh, then you will very fast discover that most of values are incorrect, missing, improper or invalid. If you would pay attention to details and structure, then you will see that hackintosh compaired to EFiX or real Mac hardware missing a lot of functionality which can be reached with help of real EFi implementation only and will be not possible to archive with boot132 due its serious limitations. Comparation to Psystars released booting way resulted that they were using strong modified Chameleon, OSX86 project also. Some of bugs are clearly taken direct from Chameleon and Netkas hacking solutions.
Hope helps to clarify about EFiX for this article, but in fact i would contact EFiX developers, ASEM (www.art-studios.net) with questions, they will, so i believe, give by far better explanations to their products... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.44.96.205 ( talk) 01:51, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Does Wikipedia let Apple Inc. write its articles now? The title of this page is a joke and it should be changed back to Hackintosh or OSx86. 91.49.199.89 ( talk) 13:47, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
I'm inclined to agree – this seems to violate NPOV and cloning cloning Mackintoshes is not illegal everywhere. I think "Macintosh Cloning" or "Hackintosh" is less biased. Jonathan Williams ( talk) 14:58, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved back to the original title, OSx86. Clearly there was a consensus against the move to "Illegal Macintosh cloning". No prejudice against a new discussion with something like Hackintosh as the proposed title. Jenks24 ( talk) 09:17, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Illegal Macintosh cloning →
Macintosh Cloning – per
Wikipedia:Article_titles#Non-judgmental_descriptive_titles. Additionally, this is clearly not illegal in all jurisdictions worldwide and there are questions about the enforceability of
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Explanatory comment: For a few days only, this article was titled "Illegal Macintosh cloning". Jonathan Williams started this "requested move" thread during this period. (The article's current title, "OSx86", is as it was before it became "Illegal Macintosh cloning".) -- Hoary ( talk) 01:25, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
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On 25 August, User:Proud User retitled this article, from "OSx86" to "Illegal Macintosh cloning", with the summary "More technical terminology". This was unilateral (and immediately followed another edit by Proud User resulting in "Illegal Macintosh cloning refers to collaborative hacking to run the OS X operating system on non- Apple personal computers with x86 architecture on x86-64 processors").
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OSx86 → Hackintosh – OSx86 refers to a specific project [3] while the page itself contains general information about installing macOS on non-Apple hardware. These systems are generally known as Hackintoshes. [4] [5] Ianmcxa ( talk) 23:55, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Given that the Apples OS systems were developed out of UNIX, it may be useful to compare why some people prefer to run the apple systems over legal Linux distros. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.12.203.8 ( talk) 18:38, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
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Why on Earth would someone want to run that inferior desktop anyway? Mind boggles ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.95.112.161 ( talk) 03:45, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Isn't it illegal as per Apple Mac OS X license agreement to run the OS on anything but an Apple computer? "This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time" - Refer [1]. Nowhere on the article is it mentioned that the project is illegal. -- Artagnon 14:49, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
The license says "This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time." Since the purpose of OSX86 is installing the software on non-"Apple-labeled computers," and the License does not prohibit this action, it seems to me that this project does not violate the license. It also seems to me that such a draconian measure, if it were properly phrased, may be questionably legal under Fair Use and similar laws anyway. -- Adam Katz Δ talk 19:02, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
As many have pointed out before, it allows you to use on an "Apple labeled" computer. Since it was not worded as "Apple manufactured" slapping an apple sticker on the computer would comply with the TOS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.114.81.149 ( talk) 06:48, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
(remove indent)As I stated in the article itself on Feb 17, 2006 in a ZDNet article called "DMCA axes sites discussing Mac OS for PCs" Tom Krazit stated "The company used a Trusted Platform Module, or TPM, to tie Mac OS to the systems it distributed to developers after announcing its switch to Intel's chips last year, but hackers have found ways to circumvent that protection, which is illegal under the DMCA." So there you have it. Nothing about Apple's EULA but rather a Federal Law! Amit Singn in the December 2007 MacOS X Internals article ""TPM DRM" In Mac OS X: A Myth That Won't Die" claimed it was actually the System Management Controller (SMC) chip that was used but again bypassing that chip would also be a violation of the DMCA.-- BruceGrubb ( talk) 08:48, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
IMPORTANT NOTE: Judge Alsup's November 13, 2009 summery verdict against Psystar on DMCA grounds indicates that this project is illegal as the DMCA clearly states "No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof, that— (A) is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title;"-- BruceGrubb ( talk) 06:22, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
If you have the software, you have the software. Apple can't write laws. The threat isn't supported by law, thus being irrelevant. They won't support OS X if you run it on a PC, but OS X is practically indestructible, so you shouldn't care. Jakeraymin13 ( talk) 18:44, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Has anyone considered comparing the benefits of various kernel versions with certain processors? This is something other sites have failed to do, and would be thoroughly useful for any OSX86 user. It is also of historical value if the judgment of OSX86 depends on how close one can get to approximating a fully functional MacOS setup on other hardware. (i.e. graphics acceleration, power management, sleep modes, multiple cores, 64-bit, NX bit, VT, etc.)
Actions should be taken. Vincent Pun talk 11:06, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Add a section called "Legality of OSx86" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.108.13.2 ( talk) 03:05, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Theres a bit too much jargon parts of it would be hard to understand for any one not completley familiar with this end of technology. For example the article discusses missing SSE3 instructions in early releases, what does that entail? What doesn't work because of missing SSE3 instructions ? that sort of thing. 72.147.77.11 ( talk) 09:51, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
This user, 172.188.187.67, may need to be blocked. The user repeatedly inserts a link to a practically content-free ad revenue site. The link is disguised with an OSx86 title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.205.56.11 ( talk) 20:06, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
the osx86project link should not be up there if the other sites like hackint0sh.org, osx86scene.org, and maconpc.org are not up there. the osx86project page is run by the same people that run insanely mac and if other sites are being removed it should go or they should all stay. It is unfair just to advertise one site on the topic when there are many others with just as much information on the topic. In general OSX86 users go between all four sites for information. It is the same principal as if you were to not mention linux and only microsoft on the operating systems article. It is unethical to have one and not the others so leave them all up as they provide useful information and it is in the interest of people who want to learn more about the topic.
and the osx86project blog isn't active anymore either. That site should not be advertised without the others. All the actual hacking for the project happens at hackint0sh. Links restored. People have a right to more than one source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The creator ( talk • contribs) 22:55, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Your link is to a site that gives you an option to go to the wiki or insanely mac another forum which is owned by insanely mac. If insanely mac is only included the the links section is biased. You should review the rules about unbiased articles. The other osx86 sites should be included. Hackint0sh.org is where most of the work gets done and people deserve to know about the other large osx86 sites. It is biased to only include one of them. If one large community is included in the article then the others should be to. It is only ethical. Hackint0sh, OSX86scene, and Maconpc are just as important to osx86 if not more than insanely mac. these links are not spam but to the other leading osx86 community. You fail to realise the osx86project link just gives you the option to go to two insanely mac owned sites. It would be the same as writing an article on broadcasting companies and only including CNN and not even mentioning the BBC, CBC, etc. Please cease and desist removing all links to osx86 communities except the one owned by insanley mac, this appears to be quite biased as they should all be removed or none at all. It is incontrovertible that only advertising CNN and not the BBC and CBC would be wrong and this is the exact same principal. I therefore take it upon my self to correct this misjudgement and re-establish the links in question as they are irrefutably just as important to osx86 which is what the entire article is about.
- the creator user:the creator 22nd of April, 8:16 pm DST —Preceding unsigned comment added by The creator ( talk • contribs) 03:17, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
No it goes to insanely mac or the project wiki page. you are misinformed though. this project is not limited to websites run by the owners of insanely mac. Most of it really takes place at hackint0sh.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by The creator ( talk • contribs) 03:31, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
The External Links section had by now grown to ten sites, most of them forums and blogs. I just cut the section down to one link, wiki.osx86project.org, because osx86project.org is the only site listed in Dmoz: Computers: Systems: Apple: Macintosh. If you would like other sites to have the same level of recognition as osx86project.org, then please have those other sites added to the Dmoz directory page, and then replace the osx86project.org link from this article with Template:Dmoz linking to the directory page. - Brian Kendig ( talk) 03:47, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
in fairness, either the osx86project.org link should go, or the others should be allowed.. the osx86project.org wiki is heavily out-of-date, poorly maintained, and commercial in nature. Whilst there is validity in the external links guidelines that there should not be a long list of links, in this case it seems relevant for both informational & historical reasons to provide links with impartial descriptions to a selection of the sites that were instrumental in the development of OSX86, which is, after all the topic in question. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.196.101.178 ( talk) 14:34, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
I have removed all external links per WP:LINKSPAM and WP:ELNO as well as possible WP:ELNEVER violations per Apple's November 27, 2008 charges that MacOS X contains "technological protection measures that effectively control access to Apple's copyrighted works" meaning that installing it on non-Apple hardware is in violation of the DMCA.-- BruceGrubb ( talk) 12:05, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
IMPORTANT NOTE: The November 13, 2009 decision in the Apple vs Psystar per DMCA makes any external links to sites that instruct you on how to install MacOS X on non Mac hardware possible violations of
WP:COPYRIGHT. "Knowingly and intentionally directing others to a site that violates copyright has been considered a form of contributory infringement in the United States (Intellectual Reserve v. Utah Lighthouse Ministry [1])." For this reason ALL external links should be discussed before being included.--
BruceGrubb (
talk)
20:23, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
hackintosh was also the name of a '90s mac/hacker oriented ezine. it was distributed as one of those self reading document apps iirc. it's where the alt.hackintosh newsgroup came from. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.193.194.181 ( talk) 21:37, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
no where does it mention the deadmoo iso image, which is in some places more popular than jas or other install dvds, although it is noted that deadmoo is distributed post-install as a vmware set, and a tiger.img file which is the hard drive image of the installation. (I personally used installed it to my harddrive via the linux dd command after reading other's success of using it). I just feel that it deserves to be mentioned in this article.
and all you mac fanatics out there who don't like your system being reduced to just expensive hardware, deal with it, os x is just proprietary unix anyway. (reference, my own dissecting of OS X on my own pc on top of my computer science major :)) . 71.204.234.179 ( talk) 07:43, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Folks, this is an encyclopedia and it has a reputation to loose. So please let us not (mis-) use it for dropping hacker's alias names. Build up an osx86 fan site, post your community stories there and WP might link to it. Thanks. -- Edoe2 ( talk) 15:17, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
hey wikians,
I think everyone has noticed that this page has become quite aged and stale. I think there is a lot of unnecessary jargon (as already noted) but more importantly a lack of recent developments being discussed. I've just finished up taking the time to write about the recent boot-132 method of installing Leopard and am about to apply my edits.
Best regards!
Mrdoomino ( talk) 00:21, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
NighTalon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.36.70.202 ( talk) 06:03, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Given the Apple vs Psystar case ruled that Apple's methods of linking MacOS X to Apple hardware was protected under the DMCA any Mac clone is on very shaky legal ground. Also with the exception of Psystar none of them are that notable.-- BruceGrubb ( talk) 20:16, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
WP:NOTFORUM Ianmcxa ( talk) 23:00, 20 January 2018 (UTC) |
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This build was used as a way to distribute goatse. There was a hoax that the build was available, but in fact, the materials spread goatse. It was widely spread. Yesitsnot ( talk) 04:58, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
|
EFiX is confirmed to use real EFi implementation, but not emulation and is not based on any OSX86 project known till today. Test way i used to confirm this: I booted with EFiX V1.1 under Mac OS X Snow Leopard (10.6) and extracted via terminal so called ioreg "ioreg -lw0 > destination.txt"
Then i booted with seveal hackintosh solutions (Chameleon and other)and extracted also ioreg too, then i boot same OS and same revision of OS of course under Mac Pro and Mac Book Pro.
The Ioreg tables between EFiX and real Mac hardware are almost identical, in my opinion and according to the content of ioreg, which you can easy extract by your own, you will find that sometimes Mac OS X 10.6 booted with help of EFiX show better ioreg-log's than on a real apple hardware. How this guys this do, is not clear to me and for this article not relevant. When you compair ioreg log's finally to any hackintosh, then you will very fast discover that most of values are incorrect, missing, improper or invalid. If you would pay attention to details and structure, then you will see that hackintosh compaired to EFiX or real Mac hardware missing a lot of functionality which can be reached with help of real EFi implementation only and will be not possible to archive with boot132 due its serious limitations. Comparation to Psystars released booting way resulted that they were using strong modified Chameleon, OSX86 project also. Some of bugs are clearly taken direct from Chameleon and Netkas hacking solutions.
Hope helps to clarify about EFiX for this article, but in fact i would contact EFiX developers, ASEM (www.art-studios.net) with questions, they will, so i believe, give by far better explanations to their products... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.44.96.205 ( talk) 01:51, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Does Wikipedia let Apple Inc. write its articles now? The title of this page is a joke and it should be changed back to Hackintosh or OSx86. 91.49.199.89 ( talk) 13:47, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
I'm inclined to agree – this seems to violate NPOV and cloning cloning Mackintoshes is not illegal everywhere. I think "Macintosh Cloning" or "Hackintosh" is less biased. Jonathan Williams ( talk) 14:58, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved back to the original title, OSx86. Clearly there was a consensus against the move to "Illegal Macintosh cloning". No prejudice against a new discussion with something like Hackintosh as the proposed title. Jenks24 ( talk) 09:17, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Illegal Macintosh cloning →
Macintosh Cloning – per
Wikipedia:Article_titles#Non-judgmental_descriptive_titles. Additionally, this is clearly not illegal in all jurisdictions worldwide and there are questions about the enforceability of
EULAs.
Jonathan Williams (
talk)
15:05, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Explanatory comment: For a few days only, this article was titled "Illegal Macintosh cloning". Jonathan Williams started this "requested move" thread during this period. (The article's current title, "OSx86", is as it was before it became "Illegal Macintosh cloning".) -- Hoary ( talk) 01:25, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
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Wikipedia's policy on article titles.There may be some confusion with Macintosh Clone, open to better ideas. Jonathan Williams ( talk) 15:21, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
On 25 August, User:Proud User retitled this article, from "OSx86" to "Illegal Macintosh cloning", with the summary "More technical terminology". This was unilateral (and immediately followed another edit by Proud User resulting in "Illegal Macintosh cloning refers to collaborative hacking to run the OS X operating system on non- Apple personal computers with x86 architecture on x86-64 processors").
If Proud User wishes to have the article titled "Illegal Macintosh cloning", then he/she should argue for this on this talk page, and get agreement for it on this talk page. (I suspect that this would be a difficult task.) Any further retitling (moving) of this page without first obtaining agreement over the space of at least one week would be merely disruptive and time-wasting. -- Hoary ( talk) 23:54, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Moved. ( non-admin closure) – Ammarpad ( talk) 07:12, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
OSx86 → Hackintosh – OSx86 refers to a specific project [3] while the page itself contains general information about installing macOS on non-Apple hardware. These systems are generally known as Hackintoshes. [4] [5] Ianmcxa ( talk) 23:55, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Given that the Apples OS systems were developed out of UNIX, it may be useful to compare why some people prefer to run the apple systems over legal Linux distros. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.12.203.8 ( talk) 18:38, 19 February 2021 (UTC)