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The article "Spithead and Nore mutinies" claims that two men (not three) were injured (not killed) when they fell from the riggings. The article then claims that these two men were thrown overboard, presumably still alive.
I have been thinking (not sure if this is the right place to put this) that an article about the mutiny specifically might be worthwhile. Along with the Spithead and Nore mutinies of 1797 there was at least one other I am aware of: HMS Marie Antoinette. Admiral Jervis (whose article I expanded) used some fairly heavy handed tactics in the Mediterranean to supress mutiny in 1797. Hermione and Marie Antoinette do seem to be rare mutinies in that the crew went as far as killing their captains and handing their ships over to the enemy. Any thoughts? Thanks, 13:24, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Thurgate ( talk) 00:28, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
1. undergo a great repair. Suggest - undergo a repair.
2. Under Pigot Hermione. Suggest - Under Pigot, Hermione
3. cutlasses - Suggest - a link for this.
4. probably while he was still alive. Suggest - you remove this.
5. just 18. Suggest - just 18 men.
6. Suggest for all of the money you add a note saying how much it would be in today's money according to inflation.
7. All of the references need to be in alphabetical order.
I've put the article on hold for seven days to allow you to address the issues I've brought up. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, or here with any concerns. Thurgate ( talk) 15:22, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
4. Pope's book the Black Ship writes that "he was still alive" and cites witnesses and defendents in the later trials as evidence for this. (I think)
Thanks, Corneredmouse ( talk) 16:09, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
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Frankly, this 2011 promotion does not meet the standards ship articles at the GA-level are held to these days. There's significant uncited text, which I've marked with CN tags, as well as the entire "In popular culture" section lacks citations, as do all of the footnotes. The lead in incredibly insufficient (3 sentences for an article with 14kb readable prose!), and there is significant important information missing from the prose body of the article. The date the ship was laid down doesn't appear in the prose. The basic characteristics of the ship aren't described. In fact, we aren't even told what class this ship was from. Will be notifying the Military History and Ships WikiProjects, as well as Kirk!, who was involved in the promotion and is still semi-active. Hog Farm Bacon 20:53, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
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The article "Spithead and Nore mutinies" claims that two men (not three) were injured (not killed) when they fell from the riggings. The article then claims that these two men were thrown overboard, presumably still alive.
I have been thinking (not sure if this is the right place to put this) that an article about the mutiny specifically might be worthwhile. Along with the Spithead and Nore mutinies of 1797 there was at least one other I am aware of: HMS Marie Antoinette. Admiral Jervis (whose article I expanded) used some fairly heavy handed tactics in the Mediterranean to supress mutiny in 1797. Hermione and Marie Antoinette do seem to be rare mutinies in that the crew went as far as killing their captains and handing their ships over to the enemy. Any thoughts? Thanks, 13:24, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
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1. undergo a great repair. Suggest - undergo a repair.
2. Under Pigot Hermione. Suggest - Under Pigot, Hermione
3. cutlasses - Suggest - a link for this.
4. probably while he was still alive. Suggest - you remove this.
5. just 18. Suggest - just 18 men.
6. Suggest for all of the money you add a note saying how much it would be in today's money according to inflation.
7. All of the references need to be in alphabetical order.
I've put the article on hold for seven days to allow you to address the issues I've brought up. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, or here with any concerns. Thurgate ( talk) 15:22, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
4. Pope's book the Black Ship writes that "he was still alive" and cites witnesses and defendents in the later trials as evidence for this. (I think)
Thanks, Corneredmouse ( talk) 16:09, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
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Frankly, this 2011 promotion does not meet the standards ship articles at the GA-level are held to these days. There's significant uncited text, which I've marked with CN tags, as well as the entire "In popular culture" section lacks citations, as do all of the footnotes. The lead in incredibly insufficient (3 sentences for an article with 14kb readable prose!), and there is significant important information missing from the prose body of the article. The date the ship was laid down doesn't appear in the prose. The basic characteristics of the ship aren't described. In fact, we aren't even told what class this ship was from. Will be notifying the Military History and Ships WikiProjects, as well as Kirk!, who was involved in the promotion and is still semi-active. Hog Farm Bacon 20:53, 12 October 2020 (UTC)