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"U-331 returned to Salamis on 3 December, where her commander von Tiesenhausen was subsequently promoted to Kapitänleutnant and awarded the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross." for the sinking of HMS Barham. So, the German high command must have known a lot earlier than "late january" that Barham was sunk. Or was the award for merely damaging this ship? The first quote is from Wikipedia's page on U 331. 80.101.7.35 ( talk) 19:37, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
I misread the article.
WHEN THE BARHAM WAS HIT IN 1939 FOUR MEN DIED, THEY WERE BURIED IN UNMARKED GRAVES IN BOTTLE LIVERPOOL. the navy denied this and told the relatives they lost at sea. in later years the graves were discovered by prisoners clearing the grave yard. this was kept for the families and denied by the navy... my great uncle was one of the four men. ASM Lockerly — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.221.17.28 ( talk) 14:42, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
I think the level of detail is just about right in comparison to articles I've written on ships that took part in the battle, and certainly so for those that were as heavily involved in the fighting as Barham was. It is a bit of a "wall of text", but there's not a whole lot that can be done, apart from adding more pictures. You might want to put File:Headstone for the dead of H.M.S. Barham - geograph.org.uk - 1533677.jpg toward the end, and maybe a photo of one of the German BCs (probably Seydlitz would be the best choice, IMO) - File:Seydlitz badly damaged.jpg. File:HMS Warspite and HMS Malaya during the battle of Jutland.jpg might even be an option if you need another image. Parsecboy ( talk) 20:43, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Regarding the number of casualties, the loss of life is given as 863 at the following site: http://www.britishpathe.com/gallery/ten-tragedies-caught-on-film/4 while the narrator for the newsreel (Archive: British Pathé, Issue Date: 09/07/1945) at: http://www.britishpathe.com/video/hms-barham-1914-1941-aka-hms-barham-1914-41 states the loss of life as being 859 The figure in the article is unreferenced and indicates 841 people died. I am new to contributing to Wikipedia so maybe someone with greater skill might edit the article to reflect these facts? Lord Ferguson ( talk) 13:41, 11 November 2015 (UTC)Lord Ferguson
I'm reluctant to make this change because I'm not 100% sure but all the good sources I have talk of the sinking as being 25 November, not 24 November. This includes the first British notice of the sinking in January 1942. Can someone make the change if they are sure? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.37.125.106 ( talk) 03:52, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
The meaning of the following sentence is unclear. "Evan-Thomas turned northeast at around 18:06 and then made arced around to the southeast once he spotted the Grand Fleet." Please fix. Thanks. Djmaschek ( talk) 05:57, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
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I'll take a look at this one.
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This is a great article. Well written, comprehensive and very deserving of GA status. Once all of the above are clarified this should be good to go.
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Thanks for catching these; this is exactly the kind of stuff I was looking for my reviewer to find.-- Sturmvogel 66 ( talk) 21:04, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
@ Sturmvogel 66 Why did you remove what i wrote ? Mr.Lovecraft ( talk) 08:51, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
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"U-331 returned to Salamis on 3 December, where her commander von Tiesenhausen was subsequently promoted to Kapitänleutnant and awarded the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross." for the sinking of HMS Barham. So, the German high command must have known a lot earlier than "late january" that Barham was sunk. Or was the award for merely damaging this ship? The first quote is from Wikipedia's page on U 331. 80.101.7.35 ( talk) 19:37, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
I misread the article.
WHEN THE BARHAM WAS HIT IN 1939 FOUR MEN DIED, THEY WERE BURIED IN UNMARKED GRAVES IN BOTTLE LIVERPOOL. the navy denied this and told the relatives they lost at sea. in later years the graves were discovered by prisoners clearing the grave yard. this was kept for the families and denied by the navy... my great uncle was one of the four men. ASM Lockerly — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.221.17.28 ( talk) 14:42, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
I think the level of detail is just about right in comparison to articles I've written on ships that took part in the battle, and certainly so for those that were as heavily involved in the fighting as Barham was. It is a bit of a "wall of text", but there's not a whole lot that can be done, apart from adding more pictures. You might want to put File:Headstone for the dead of H.M.S. Barham - geograph.org.uk - 1533677.jpg toward the end, and maybe a photo of one of the German BCs (probably Seydlitz would be the best choice, IMO) - File:Seydlitz badly damaged.jpg. File:HMS Warspite and HMS Malaya during the battle of Jutland.jpg might even be an option if you need another image. Parsecboy ( talk) 20:43, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Regarding the number of casualties, the loss of life is given as 863 at the following site: http://www.britishpathe.com/gallery/ten-tragedies-caught-on-film/4 while the narrator for the newsreel (Archive: British Pathé, Issue Date: 09/07/1945) at: http://www.britishpathe.com/video/hms-barham-1914-1941-aka-hms-barham-1914-41 states the loss of life as being 859 The figure in the article is unreferenced and indicates 841 people died. I am new to contributing to Wikipedia so maybe someone with greater skill might edit the article to reflect these facts? Lord Ferguson ( talk) 13:41, 11 November 2015 (UTC)Lord Ferguson
I'm reluctant to make this change because I'm not 100% sure but all the good sources I have talk of the sinking as being 25 November, not 24 November. This includes the first British notice of the sinking in January 1942. Can someone make the change if they are sure? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.37.125.106 ( talk) 03:52, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
The meaning of the following sentence is unclear. "Evan-Thomas turned northeast at around 18:06 and then made arced around to the southeast once he spotted the Grand Fleet." Please fix. Thanks. Djmaschek ( talk) 05:57, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Jaguar ( talk · contribs) 17:14, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
I'll take a look at this one.
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UAR 17:14, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
This is a great article. Well written, comprehensive and very deserving of GA status. Once all of the above are clarified this should be good to go.
JAG
UAR 17:26, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for catching these; this is exactly the kind of stuff I was looking for my reviewer to find.-- Sturmvogel 66 ( talk) 21:04, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
@ Sturmvogel 66 Why did you remove what i wrote ? Mr.Lovecraft ( talk) 08:51, 23 July 2022 (UTC)