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This is not a Good Article candidate as long as Worldtraveller insists on improper capitalization and spelling of "5,000 kelvins". I won't delist it because I am the one trying to keep him straight, though I really haven't made any other significant contributios to this article. Gene Nygaard 17:10, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Let's just use the Kelvin symbol (K). Like writing 'm' instead of metre/meter it is neutral. Wikify the letter if necessary to help clueless readers.-- Jyril 19:00, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm ignoring this argument over kelvin/Kelvin, etc., & I'm promoting this article to {{ GA}}. Please take this dipute to WP:MoS; once resolved there, this & related articles can then be editted to conform to the consensus there. -- llywrch 03:47, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Do we really need separate articles for HD 217107 b and HD 217107 c - this seems to have been done more to avoid whitespace than because the planets are especially noteworthy (most extrasolar planets articles have the planets and infoboxes in the main article). While I agree that whitespace is annoying, I also don't think every extrasolar planet deserves an article: most are just another catalogue entry, and I don't see anything particularly special about the planets of HD 217107 - just another hot Jupiter and eccentric planet. See also Gliese 876, clearing the starbox seems to be fairly common practice. Chaos syndrome 18:05, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Vast majority of the known extrasolar planets are so poorly known that basically all we know about them can be described in an extrasolar planet infobox. Therefore separating articles tend to create just more stub articles and excessive repetition (to be honest, current HD 217107 planet articles look really good despite the lack of available information; still, I'm not convinced that anyone has enough patience to create so comprehensive articles to every planet). From this point of view it would be better to include all planet data in the star article until it becomes detailed enough.
But still, the current situation is clearly not a good one. To be honest, it's horrible because the infoboxes have grown so long. There is way too much clear space in the articles. One way is to use JavaScript to hide the infoboxes so the article stays compact as WorldTraveller has done in his test page. Problem is, we should avoid using JavaScript because of compatibility issues. IMHO it would be better to combine extrasolar planet infoboxes to one table and put it in the bottom of the page. True, they wouldn't be as visible but that wouldn't be much different from the current situation. The article would be more readable, because text is then more compact.-- Jyril 18:37, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
What is wrong with you people? We've been puting exos in the it's star's artical for years, why change now. The only time exos are made into there own artical is if they are of big news and of public intrest (i.e.
OGLE-2005-BLG-390Lb,
51 Pegasi b,
HD 188753 Ab). These planets are not of any of these standerds, why should they be treeted with royalty. They should be in the star's artical as of wiki rules and tradition. And FYI, the only reason that
Worldtraveller made the b and c articals is because he hates those {{
clear}} things!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
—
Hurricane
Dev
o
n @
11:20, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
I've changed the header from "planet" to "companion", because presumably a table of this sort will be useful for systems containing brown dwarfs as well as planets. I'd like to get feedback as to whether people think this is a good idea and whether we should start deploying this on other extrasolar planet/system articles, and what if anything to add/remove from it.
I'll add that I don't like the current form of the templates {{ Star-planetbox primary}} and {{ Star-planetbox secondary}} which have been created in response to the changes in this article, the semantics are a bit weird (why does the first planet in the list get special treatment?), and the header seems unnecessary (it also is ungrammatical for single-planet systems). Not entirely sure a template is really necessary for this purpose. Chaos syndrome 15:37, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
According to Hipparcos, the distance to HD 217107 is 19.7 pc (64.3 ly) and therefore the star's absolute magnitude is 4.70. A value that close to solar sounds unrealistic because the star is a subgiant. Extrasolar Planets Encyclopaedia uses a different value, 37 pc (120 ly). [3] Can't find the source for that value, though.-- Jyril 12:39, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria. I'm specifically going over all of the "Planets and Moons" articles. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. I have made several minor corrections throughout the article. Altogether the article is well-written and is still in great shape after its passing in 2006. Continue to improve the article making sure all new information is properly sourced and neutral. I would recommend going through all of the citations and updating the access dates and fixing any dead links. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. Happy editing! -- Nehrams2020 ( talk) 01:37, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Please do add pictures and diagrams. Do expand the text and incorporate stray links as in-line citations. Materialscientist ( talk) 22:52, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Also Since when is 10 my older then the solar system. One of the primary sources, has as primary sources the authors own works, and appears to be lacking peer review. 2001:4870:800E:101:2D42:2EE6:DD46:9CE9 ( talk) 20:00, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
![]() | HD 217107 has been listed as one of the Natural sciences good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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![]() | This article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||
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![]() | It is requested that an image or photograph of HD 217107 be
included in this article to
improve its quality. Please replace this template with a more specific
media request template where possible.
The Free Image Search Tool or Openverse Creative Commons Search may be able to locate suitable images on Flickr and other web sites. |
![]() | It is requested that an astronomy diagram or diagrams be
included in this article to
improve its quality. Specific illustrations, plots or diagrams can be requested at the
Graphic Lab. For more information, refer to discussion on this page and/or the listing at Wikipedia:Requested images. |
This is not a Good Article candidate as long as Worldtraveller insists on improper capitalization and spelling of "5,000 kelvins". I won't delist it because I am the one trying to keep him straight, though I really haven't made any other significant contributios to this article. Gene Nygaard 17:10, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Let's just use the Kelvin symbol (K). Like writing 'm' instead of metre/meter it is neutral. Wikify the letter if necessary to help clueless readers.-- Jyril 19:00, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm ignoring this argument over kelvin/Kelvin, etc., & I'm promoting this article to {{ GA}}. Please take this dipute to WP:MoS; once resolved there, this & related articles can then be editted to conform to the consensus there. -- llywrch 03:47, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Do we really need separate articles for HD 217107 b and HD 217107 c - this seems to have been done more to avoid whitespace than because the planets are especially noteworthy (most extrasolar planets articles have the planets and infoboxes in the main article). While I agree that whitespace is annoying, I also don't think every extrasolar planet deserves an article: most are just another catalogue entry, and I don't see anything particularly special about the planets of HD 217107 - just another hot Jupiter and eccentric planet. See also Gliese 876, clearing the starbox seems to be fairly common practice. Chaos syndrome 18:05, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Vast majority of the known extrasolar planets are so poorly known that basically all we know about them can be described in an extrasolar planet infobox. Therefore separating articles tend to create just more stub articles and excessive repetition (to be honest, current HD 217107 planet articles look really good despite the lack of available information; still, I'm not convinced that anyone has enough patience to create so comprehensive articles to every planet). From this point of view it would be better to include all planet data in the star article until it becomes detailed enough.
But still, the current situation is clearly not a good one. To be honest, it's horrible because the infoboxes have grown so long. There is way too much clear space in the articles. One way is to use JavaScript to hide the infoboxes so the article stays compact as WorldTraveller has done in his test page. Problem is, we should avoid using JavaScript because of compatibility issues. IMHO it would be better to combine extrasolar planet infoboxes to one table and put it in the bottom of the page. True, they wouldn't be as visible but that wouldn't be much different from the current situation. The article would be more readable, because text is then more compact.-- Jyril 18:37, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
What is wrong with you people? We've been puting exos in the it's star's artical for years, why change now. The only time exos are made into there own artical is if they are of big news and of public intrest (i.e.
OGLE-2005-BLG-390Lb,
51 Pegasi b,
HD 188753 Ab). These planets are not of any of these standerds, why should they be treeted with royalty. They should be in the star's artical as of wiki rules and tradition. And FYI, the only reason that
Worldtraveller made the b and c articals is because he hates those {{
clear}} things!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
—
Hurricane
Dev
o
n @
11:20, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
I've changed the header from "planet" to "companion", because presumably a table of this sort will be useful for systems containing brown dwarfs as well as planets. I'd like to get feedback as to whether people think this is a good idea and whether we should start deploying this on other extrasolar planet/system articles, and what if anything to add/remove from it.
I'll add that I don't like the current form of the templates {{ Star-planetbox primary}} and {{ Star-planetbox secondary}} which have been created in response to the changes in this article, the semantics are a bit weird (why does the first planet in the list get special treatment?), and the header seems unnecessary (it also is ungrammatical for single-planet systems). Not entirely sure a template is really necessary for this purpose. Chaos syndrome 15:37, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
According to Hipparcos, the distance to HD 217107 is 19.7 pc (64.3 ly) and therefore the star's absolute magnitude is 4.70. A value that close to solar sounds unrealistic because the star is a subgiant. Extrasolar Planets Encyclopaedia uses a different value, 37 pc (120 ly). [3] Can't find the source for that value, though.-- Jyril 12:39, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria. I'm specifically going over all of the "Planets and Moons" articles. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. I have made several minor corrections throughout the article. Altogether the article is well-written and is still in great shape after its passing in 2006. Continue to improve the article making sure all new information is properly sourced and neutral. I would recommend going through all of the citations and updating the access dates and fixing any dead links. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. Happy editing! -- Nehrams2020 ( talk) 01:37, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Please do add pictures and diagrams. Do expand the text and incorporate stray links as in-line citations. Materialscientist ( talk) 22:52, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Also Since when is 10 my older then the solar system. One of the primary sources, has as primary sources the authors own works, and appears to be lacking peer review. 2001:4870:800E:101:2D42:2EE6:DD46:9CE9 ( talk) 20:00, 27 October 2014 (UTC)