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Here's a question that I cannot find an answer to in this article. When was the first U.S. gun show? Lightbreather ( talk) 21:49, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
That first one isn't really about gun shows. It's about "fur trappers' rendezvous" that occurred from 1824 through 1841, at which they could trade "their pelts for blankets, beads, knives, guns, and, of course, whiskey." The second one is without a doubt about gun shows, but it doesn't say that they started in 1938 - it just says that since 1938 "people engaged in the business of selling firearms have been required to get a federal firearms license."
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"Gun rights advocates" push legislation allowing people to bring loaded guns into bars, courtrooms, city council meetings, and schools because, they say, that'll make those places safer. So where are loaded guns still banned? You guessed it: gun shows. Why? Well, duh: that'd be unsafe. I kid you not: I looked at some of the shows' rules. It's fine for judges and business patrons and politicians and school children to face crazy or drunk or negligent gun slingers. But god-forbid the gun dealers might be exposed to all that flying lead. It'd be hilarious if it weren't so fucking sad. I dunno if I can find a proper secondary source for this, but it oughta be in the article, along with the rest of how these weapons bazaars are run, who profits from them, etc. The laws and shit are important, but there's a lot more to say than that. Felsic ( talk) 20:34, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
The only peer-reviewed study on background checks for the private transfers of guns that looked at data for all the states that have passed these laws has been done in various editions of John Lott's "More Guns, Less Crime" (3rd edition, 2010). [1] Nineteen states that had such regulations during the years from 1977 to 2005 were examined. Murder and robbery showed slight increases while these laws were in effect, but the increases were not statistically significant. Part of the impact is on who these universal background checks prevent from buying guns. In New York, today’s background checks add about $80 to the cost of transferring a gun. In Washington State, they add about $60. In Washington, D.C., they add $200. In effect, these laws put a tax on guns and can prevent less affluent Americans from purchasing them. This disproportionately affects poor minorities who live in high-crime urban areas. [2] His book also reported that states that adopted the gun show regulations saw a 20 percentage point drop in the number of gun shows in the state. [3]
This stuff ain't about gun shows. The last sentence is, but it's gonna take a lotta rewriting to fit. The rest is about background checks. There's gotta be a better article for it. Felsic2 ( talk) 01:58, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
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Recently a new section about the SHOT Show was added, here. But my understanding is that that's a trade show, and that the general public can't go there and buy individual firearms at a retail level. Is that correct? If it is, then the section should be removed from the article, because the SHOT Show is not a "gun show" in the sense of the subject of this article, and we don't want to confuse our readers. — Mudwater ( Talk) 00:31, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
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Here's a question that I cannot find an answer to in this article. When was the first U.S. gun show? Lightbreather ( talk) 21:49, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
That first one isn't really about gun shows. It's about "fur trappers' rendezvous" that occurred from 1824 through 1841, at which they could trade "their pelts for blankets, beads, knives, guns, and, of course, whiskey." The second one is without a doubt about gun shows, but it doesn't say that they started in 1938 - it just says that since 1938 "people engaged in the business of selling firearms have been required to get a federal firearms license."
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"Gun rights advocates" push legislation allowing people to bring loaded guns into bars, courtrooms, city council meetings, and schools because, they say, that'll make those places safer. So where are loaded guns still banned? You guessed it: gun shows. Why? Well, duh: that'd be unsafe. I kid you not: I looked at some of the shows' rules. It's fine for judges and business patrons and politicians and school children to face crazy or drunk or negligent gun slingers. But god-forbid the gun dealers might be exposed to all that flying lead. It'd be hilarious if it weren't so fucking sad. I dunno if I can find a proper secondary source for this, but it oughta be in the article, along with the rest of how these weapons bazaars are run, who profits from them, etc. The laws and shit are important, but there's a lot more to say than that. Felsic ( talk) 20:34, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
The only peer-reviewed study on background checks for the private transfers of guns that looked at data for all the states that have passed these laws has been done in various editions of John Lott's "More Guns, Less Crime" (3rd edition, 2010). [1] Nineteen states that had such regulations during the years from 1977 to 2005 were examined. Murder and robbery showed slight increases while these laws were in effect, but the increases were not statistically significant. Part of the impact is on who these universal background checks prevent from buying guns. In New York, today’s background checks add about $80 to the cost of transferring a gun. In Washington State, they add about $60. In Washington, D.C., they add $200. In effect, these laws put a tax on guns and can prevent less affluent Americans from purchasing them. This disproportionately affects poor minorities who live in high-crime urban areas. [2] His book also reported that states that adopted the gun show regulations saw a 20 percentage point drop in the number of gun shows in the state. [3]
This stuff ain't about gun shows. The last sentence is, but it's gonna take a lotta rewriting to fit. The rest is about background checks. There's gotta be a better article for it. Felsic2 ( talk) 01:58, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
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Recently a new section about the SHOT Show was added, here. But my understanding is that that's a trade show, and that the general public can't go there and buy individual firearms at a retail level. Is that correct? If it is, then the section should be removed from the article, because the SHOT Show is not a "gun show" in the sense of the subject of this article, and we don't want to confuse our readers. — Mudwater ( Talk) 00:31, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
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