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With the passage of AB142, I think we should put in content here in both the table and body regarding wisconsin's knife laws. Therefore I propose that this article be renamed to either Weapon laws in Wisconsin or Gun and knife laws in Wisconsin Gaijin42 ( talk) 17:06, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
MudwaterI thought about the columns thing, but in the case of Wisconsin, the only row that it is actually needed for is concealed carry. Everything else is all/none. That seems like a lot of additional complexity and wasted space for very little gain. In both Wisconsin, and in the other states, there are several rows where the columns don't make any sense at all (castle, constitution, preemption, magazine, the knife ones, etc) Gaijin42 ( talk) 02:38, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
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With the recent news I was poking around regarding the minimum age to carry in WI. Here (and on many law blogs and publications) a minimum age of 18 is cited to open carry - but folks either cite to inapplicable law, or don't cite at all, to this proposition. The citation here points to an old website with links to some statutes, none of which support the proposition. Does anyone have any statutory language or caselaw that would clarify this point? Outside of court opinions or statutory language, many people agreeing on the state of the law is irrelevant to the actual state of the law. I haven't been able to find anything myself. This language should be removed unless properly cited. Jacotto ( talk) 22:07, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
I looked into this too. I could not find Current* case law that specifies age... as well as differentiate between open carry of a rifle vs handgun. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:100E:BE16:167F:C8F2:A4C7:132A:FE1 ( talk) 01:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
Okay, I looked into the current case law and it seems very specific re: 18 years of age. Younger than 18 is only allowed for gun practice or hunting. I can find NOTHING that substantiates this sentence "Open carry of loaded handguns and long guns and knives is permitted without a license for adults over 18, or for minors 16 or older when carrying a long gun that doesn't violate WS 941.28” — it appears to be factually wrong. These are the relevant laws: Possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18., Restrictions on hunting and use of firearms by persons under 16 years of age.… not making any changes, however I cannot find law that substantiates this claim. -- FeloneousCat ( talk) 23:55, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
The legislative text says: "Exceptions. Sections 941.25 and 941.26 shall not prohibit or interfere with ... the possession of a machine gun other than one adapted to use pistol cartridges for a purpose manifestly not aggressive or offensive."
To me, this particular clause is confusing, and would seem to infer that prohibitions on machine guns do NOT apply to any machine gun that is NOT both adapted to pistol caliber (versus originally chambered) AND for a purpose not aggressive or offensive, which is pretty bizarre: one would think you would specifically allow non-aggressive/offensive arms, and that pistol caliber machine guns would be less "dangerous", regardless of any other legal argument around the right to possess machine guns in general. But without a better source than the statute (a court case, perhaps?) I don't see how the summary can be considered accurate. There is a brief related to US v Carmel, written by a magistrate judge, which specifically mentions this segment of WI law being "widdershins", a "verbal morass", and "patently ridiculous", but ultimately irrelevant to federal charges faced by Carmel. Tbessler ( talk) 20:59, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
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With the passage of AB142, I think we should put in content here in both the table and body regarding wisconsin's knife laws. Therefore I propose that this article be renamed to either Weapon laws in Wisconsin or Gun and knife laws in Wisconsin Gaijin42 ( talk) 17:06, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
MudwaterI thought about the columns thing, but in the case of Wisconsin, the only row that it is actually needed for is concealed carry. Everything else is all/none. That seems like a lot of additional complexity and wasted space for very little gain. In both Wisconsin, and in the other states, there are several rows where the columns don't make any sense at all (castle, constitution, preemption, magazine, the knife ones, etc) Gaijin42 ( talk) 02:38, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 01:07, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
With the recent news I was poking around regarding the minimum age to carry in WI. Here (and on many law blogs and publications) a minimum age of 18 is cited to open carry - but folks either cite to inapplicable law, or don't cite at all, to this proposition. The citation here points to an old website with links to some statutes, none of which support the proposition. Does anyone have any statutory language or caselaw that would clarify this point? Outside of court opinions or statutory language, many people agreeing on the state of the law is irrelevant to the actual state of the law. I haven't been able to find anything myself. This language should be removed unless properly cited. Jacotto ( talk) 22:07, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
I looked into this too. I could not find Current* case law that specifies age... as well as differentiate between open carry of a rifle vs handgun. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:100E:BE16:167F:C8F2:A4C7:132A:FE1 ( talk) 01:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
Okay, I looked into the current case law and it seems very specific re: 18 years of age. Younger than 18 is only allowed for gun practice or hunting. I can find NOTHING that substantiates this sentence "Open carry of loaded handguns and long guns and knives is permitted without a license for adults over 18, or for minors 16 or older when carrying a long gun that doesn't violate WS 941.28” — it appears to be factually wrong. These are the relevant laws: Possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18., Restrictions on hunting and use of firearms by persons under 16 years of age.… not making any changes, however I cannot find law that substantiates this claim. -- FeloneousCat ( talk) 23:55, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
The legislative text says: "Exceptions. Sections 941.25 and 941.26 shall not prohibit or interfere with ... the possession of a machine gun other than one adapted to use pistol cartridges for a purpose manifestly not aggressive or offensive."
To me, this particular clause is confusing, and would seem to infer that prohibitions on machine guns do NOT apply to any machine gun that is NOT both adapted to pistol caliber (versus originally chambered) AND for a purpose not aggressive or offensive, which is pretty bizarre: one would think you would specifically allow non-aggressive/offensive arms, and that pistol caliber machine guns would be less "dangerous", regardless of any other legal argument around the right to possess machine guns in general. But without a better source than the statute (a court case, perhaps?) I don't see how the summary can be considered accurate. There is a brief related to US v Carmel, written by a magistrate judge, which specifically mentions this segment of WI law being "widdershins", a "verbal morass", and "patently ridiculous", but ultimately irrelevant to federal charges faced by Carmel. Tbessler ( talk) 20:59, 18 September 2023 (UTC)