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"The coastline of the Gulf of Maine is predominantly rocky and scenic; the only significant coastal developments are located in the Boston, Portsmouth, Portland and Saint John metropolitan areas. "
This sentence seems strange to me. I have no statistics, but I'd think the New England coast between Cape Cod and probably Portland is one of the more populated parts of any coast in at least America. Granted, we're supposed to have a world view, but compared to, say, the Southeastern US coast or the Pacific Northwest at least, this seems misleading. However, considering Northern Maine and Canada, and my own Hub-of-the-Universe world view, I figured I'd ask for input.
Thanks, CSZero 23:47, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
This article is the only major source of information that suggests the Bay of Fundy is part of the Gulf of Maine and this is also the only piece of information that comes up in a Google search about the subject, for these reasons it has the potential to create a "truth" that is not factual as it can be referenced by many young and/or inexperienced researchers and journalists who have been brainwashed since children to believe their country(America) "runs the world". Other sources of information including other wikipedia articles, ocean charts, and other encyclopedia articles substantiate my claims and refer to the Gulf of Maine and Bay of Fundy as either: 1-separate entities; 2-Bay of Fundy draining into Gulf of Maine; 3-Bay of Fundy draining into Atlantic Ocean; 4-
https://www.britannica.com/place/Bay-of-Fundy
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/article/bay-of-fundy-new-brunswick-nova-scotia
https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Bay_of_Fundy
https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/bay-of-fundy-and-gulf-of-maine
https://www.charts.gc.ca/documents/publications/atlas/P241_Atlas_BayOfFundy.pdf
This wiki article and Ken Gallagher's edits contradict multiple sources of information and he refuses to produce a singular piece of information to substantiate his claims that he is right, but he continues to revert my edits without substantiation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stntjnky ( talk • contribs) 13:47, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
3O Response: @
Stntjnky and
Ken Gallager: I'm not sure how widely known the Gulf of Maine is. I'm not surprised that some of the encyclopedia articles on the Bay of Fundy (above) don't mention it – that may suggest it isn't notable for inclusion in the
Bay of Fundy article, but doesn't necessarily mean it's untrue. The Canadian Encyclopedia article mentions "the Gulf of Maine and the Bay of Fundy" as though they are separate and distinct. However, I came across
this report from
Fisheries and Oceans Canada which states: Frequently described as a “sea within a sea”, the Gulf of Maine area includes the Bay of Fundy, the Northeast Channel and Georges Bank.
I feel that's a pretty good source. If there are other sources which explicitly contradict this, then the article can say that it is disputed. But based on this cursory examination of sources, I think it's fine for this article to say that the Bay of Fundy is part of the Gulf of Maine.
To address some of the original poster's other points, I believe that the Gulf of Maine was named centuries before Maine became a US state, and the Gulf of Maine isn't American anyway, so there's really no problem there. As an illustrative example, James Bay is part of Hudson Bay and a sea of the Arctic Ocean, and it also drains into Hudson Bay which drains into the Arctic Ocean; these statements may sound contradictory but they aren't. This is a non-binding third opinion, but I hope it helps! – Reidgreg ( talk) 00:14, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
I have added additional content relating to the ecology of the area and some structural changes. Please reach out with any questions. Massy719 ( talk) 18:22, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
See statements in the above section. User:Stntjnky has removed from the article information regarding the Canadian extent of the Gulf of Maine, claiming that any statistics for Canada only apply to the Bay of Fundy and not the Gulf of Maine as a whole. -- Ken Gallager ( talk) 13:41, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
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"The coastline of the Gulf of Maine is predominantly rocky and scenic; the only significant coastal developments are located in the Boston, Portsmouth, Portland and Saint John metropolitan areas. "
This sentence seems strange to me. I have no statistics, but I'd think the New England coast between Cape Cod and probably Portland is one of the more populated parts of any coast in at least America. Granted, we're supposed to have a world view, but compared to, say, the Southeastern US coast or the Pacific Northwest at least, this seems misleading. However, considering Northern Maine and Canada, and my own Hub-of-the-Universe world view, I figured I'd ask for input.
Thanks, CSZero 23:47, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
This article is the only major source of information that suggests the Bay of Fundy is part of the Gulf of Maine and this is also the only piece of information that comes up in a Google search about the subject, for these reasons it has the potential to create a "truth" that is not factual as it can be referenced by many young and/or inexperienced researchers and journalists who have been brainwashed since children to believe their country(America) "runs the world". Other sources of information including other wikipedia articles, ocean charts, and other encyclopedia articles substantiate my claims and refer to the Gulf of Maine and Bay of Fundy as either: 1-separate entities; 2-Bay of Fundy draining into Gulf of Maine; 3-Bay of Fundy draining into Atlantic Ocean; 4-
https://www.britannica.com/place/Bay-of-Fundy
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/article/bay-of-fundy-new-brunswick-nova-scotia
https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Bay_of_Fundy
https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/bay-of-fundy-and-gulf-of-maine
https://www.charts.gc.ca/documents/publications/atlas/P241_Atlas_BayOfFundy.pdf
This wiki article and Ken Gallagher's edits contradict multiple sources of information and he refuses to produce a singular piece of information to substantiate his claims that he is right, but he continues to revert my edits without substantiation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stntjnky ( talk • contribs) 13:47, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
3O Response: @
Stntjnky and
Ken Gallager: I'm not sure how widely known the Gulf of Maine is. I'm not surprised that some of the encyclopedia articles on the Bay of Fundy (above) don't mention it – that may suggest it isn't notable for inclusion in the
Bay of Fundy article, but doesn't necessarily mean it's untrue. The Canadian Encyclopedia article mentions "the Gulf of Maine and the Bay of Fundy" as though they are separate and distinct. However, I came across
this report from
Fisheries and Oceans Canada which states: Frequently described as a “sea within a sea”, the Gulf of Maine area includes the Bay of Fundy, the Northeast Channel and Georges Bank.
I feel that's a pretty good source. If there are other sources which explicitly contradict this, then the article can say that it is disputed. But based on this cursory examination of sources, I think it's fine for this article to say that the Bay of Fundy is part of the Gulf of Maine.
To address some of the original poster's other points, I believe that the Gulf of Maine was named centuries before Maine became a US state, and the Gulf of Maine isn't American anyway, so there's really no problem there. As an illustrative example, James Bay is part of Hudson Bay and a sea of the Arctic Ocean, and it also drains into Hudson Bay which drains into the Arctic Ocean; these statements may sound contradictory but they aren't. This is a non-binding third opinion, but I hope it helps! – Reidgreg ( talk) 00:14, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
I have added additional content relating to the ecology of the area and some structural changes. Please reach out with any questions. Massy719 ( talk) 18:22, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
See statements in the above section. User:Stntjnky has removed from the article information regarding the Canadian extent of the Gulf of Maine, claiming that any statistics for Canada only apply to the Bay of Fundy and not the Gulf of Maine as a whole. -- Ken Gallager ( talk) 13:41, 12 October 2021 (UTC)