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What about the Beck controversy? http://www.theawarenesscenter.org/Janner_Greville.html
Janner was never charged so can be presumed to have been innocent but the fact that accusations were made in court is surely relevant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.117.84 ( talk) 18:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
I attempted to remove a citation to an article from the Daily Mail on the grounds this is a dubious source. As this has been reverted, I have tried to make the best of its inclusion. The documents appears to be quoted from by the journalist in question, so my assumption in the edit summary that he had not read them is false. It is still unclear who wrote them though. The article's author, Guy Adams, himself admits: "Both [documents] have a murky provenance. The 1995 booklet is bylined Dr A Van Helsing, a pseudonym based on the vampire hunter from the novel Dracula. The 1992 one is said to have been produced by ‘concerned Leicester parents’." We have enough good sources to suggest Greville Janner might have questions to answer (in ideal circumstances) to make including this passage unnecessary. Philip Cross ( talk) 18:25, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
I agree Daily Mail is not the best source but Janner or his friends would have the opportunity to challenge innaccuracies and threaten libel proceedings. Even more reliable sources than the Mail use unsourced quotes. The claims in the Mail are consistent with the claims by the Derbyshire Policeman and Janners taking leave of absence from the Lords. The text made clear that these are claims and allegations. Sceptic1954 ( talk) 14:28, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
"Such journalism is commonly associated with tabloid sized newspapers like the National Enquirer, Globe, or The Sun and the former News of the World. Not all newspapers associated with such journalism are in tabloid size; for example, the format of Apple Daily is broadsheet, while the style is tabloid. The terms tabloids, supermarket tabloids, gutter press and rag refer to the journalistic approach of such newspapers rather than their size.[citation needed]"
Just blanket cutting references because they only appear in the daily Mail isn't appropriate Sceptic1954 ( talk) 15:04, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
"In a statement issued after the CPS decision in April 2015, his family said that Janner was innocent.[9]"
Nearly every criminal would hope his or her family would stick up for them. Is this factoid therefore even worth recording? -- John ( talk) 17:10, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
We should remove the "right honourable" tag from this pervert's page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.27.125.124 ( talk) 22:10, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
I have removed an assertion that Janner was accused in 1991 of committing sexual offences "decades before". While this accusation is current, because of the Goddard inquiry, it is a claim which does not seem to gave been made by Frank Beck against Janner back in 1991. Contemporary press reports indicate that Beck's claim concerned an alleged two year affair Janner had with an underage boy named Paul Winston. Philip Cross ( talk) 07:58, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
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What about the Beck controversy? http://www.theawarenesscenter.org/Janner_Greville.html
Janner was never charged so can be presumed to have been innocent but the fact that accusations were made in court is surely relevant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.117.84 ( talk) 18:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
I attempted to remove a citation to an article from the Daily Mail on the grounds this is a dubious source. As this has been reverted, I have tried to make the best of its inclusion. The documents appears to be quoted from by the journalist in question, so my assumption in the edit summary that he had not read them is false. It is still unclear who wrote them though. The article's author, Guy Adams, himself admits: "Both [documents] have a murky provenance. The 1995 booklet is bylined Dr A Van Helsing, a pseudonym based on the vampire hunter from the novel Dracula. The 1992 one is said to have been produced by ‘concerned Leicester parents’." We have enough good sources to suggest Greville Janner might have questions to answer (in ideal circumstances) to make including this passage unnecessary. Philip Cross ( talk) 18:25, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
I agree Daily Mail is not the best source but Janner or his friends would have the opportunity to challenge innaccuracies and threaten libel proceedings. Even more reliable sources than the Mail use unsourced quotes. The claims in the Mail are consistent with the claims by the Derbyshire Policeman and Janners taking leave of absence from the Lords. The text made clear that these are claims and allegations. Sceptic1954 ( talk) 14:28, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
"Such journalism is commonly associated with tabloid sized newspapers like the National Enquirer, Globe, or The Sun and the former News of the World. Not all newspapers associated with such journalism are in tabloid size; for example, the format of Apple Daily is broadsheet, while the style is tabloid. The terms tabloids, supermarket tabloids, gutter press and rag refer to the journalistic approach of such newspapers rather than their size.[citation needed]"
Just blanket cutting references because they only appear in the daily Mail isn't appropriate Sceptic1954 ( talk) 15:04, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
"In a statement issued after the CPS decision in April 2015, his family said that Janner was innocent.[9]"
Nearly every criminal would hope his or her family would stick up for them. Is this factoid therefore even worth recording? -- John ( talk) 17:10, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
We should remove the "right honourable" tag from this pervert's page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.27.125.124 ( talk) 22:10, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
I have removed an assertion that Janner was accused in 1991 of committing sexual offences "decades before". While this accusation is current, because of the Goddard inquiry, it is a claim which does not seem to gave been made by Frank Beck against Janner back in 1991. Contemporary press reports indicate that Beck's claim concerned an alleged two year affair Janner had with an underage boy named Paul Winston. Philip Cross ( talk) 07:58, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
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