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Generally the rule is not to mention future mission in the infobox. STS-400 is just a potential rescue mission, so this is even a worse idea, I think.
Hektor (
talk) 08:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)reply
nationality
I removed him from "Category:British astronauts". Just having been born on UK territory doesn't make one British when one's parents hold foreign (in this case: US) nationality and none of the people involved were ever naturalized in the UK.
ViennaUK (
talk) 23:27, 14 February 2010 (UTC)reply
Just because he was born in South Ruislip, Middlesex, United Kingdom, doesn't make him British. To qualify, he would have to fit one of the following two categories:
lex soli: By birth in the United Kingdom to a parent who is a British citizen at the time of the birth, or to a parent who is settled in the United Kingdom
lex sanguinis: By descent if one of the parents is a British citizen otherwise than by descent (for example by birth, adoption, registration or naturalisation in the United Kingdom).
Neither is asserted in the NASA bio. He could have been born to tourists or expats temporarily residing in the UK. More info at
British nationality law.
Toddst1 (
talk) 23:30, 19 October 2010 (UTC)reply
I am a little puzzled by this as well. His bio doesn't mention anything about emigration; I'm fairly sure he was born to US parents -
RAF South Ruislip was a major US airbase. I'm going to remove the category/infobox note until we have positive evidence otherwise.
Andrew Gray (
talk) 22:58, 27 February 2013 (UTC)reply
It is puzzling to not have any information about his nationality. We know that he was born close to a US military establishment in Britain and graduated from a school close to a USAF base in Ohio. It's fair to believe that he might have been a US citizen by the time he graduated from the USAF academy, but without more information any statements whatsoever about his nationality and how he obtained it are based on circumstantial evidence and guesswork. All that I can add are two facts from online British public birth records: his mother's name before marriage was Frye, and his older sibling Gary C Johnson was also born in the same part of Britain at some time before the end of 1960.
162.196.161.203 (
talk) 04:11, 17 December 2016 (UTC)reply
The above nationality qualifications are misleading. At the time, British citizenship was acquired by birth in the UK regardless of parental status, but with a diplomatic exception that may or may not apply in this case (cf.
History_of_British_nationality_law#Acquisition_of_Citizenship_of_the_UK_and_Colonies). Note that a British birth certificate from this era would normally be regarded as sufficient proof of citizenship. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
163.1.246.64 (
talk) 11:47, 6 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Updated the article to reflect British nationality with cites.
Whizz40 (
talk) 11:03, 29 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Under References the link to '"Astronauts and the BSA". Fact sheet. Boy Scouts of America. Retrieved 2006-03-20.', is 404. This link, www.scouting.org/FILESTORE/pdf/02-558.pdf, appears to be a good substitute, if someone with better html-mojo than I can put it in place.
204.210.234.27 (
talk) 21:55, 19 February 2012 (UTC) Mikereply
Link in ref has been changed and updated appropriately.--
NavyBlue84 23:16, 19 February 2012 (UTC)reply
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Generally the rule is not to mention future mission in the infobox. STS-400 is just a potential rescue mission, so this is even a worse idea, I think.
Hektor (
talk) 08:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)reply
nationality
I removed him from "Category:British astronauts". Just having been born on UK territory doesn't make one British when one's parents hold foreign (in this case: US) nationality and none of the people involved were ever naturalized in the UK.
ViennaUK (
talk) 23:27, 14 February 2010 (UTC)reply
Just because he was born in South Ruislip, Middlesex, United Kingdom, doesn't make him British. To qualify, he would have to fit one of the following two categories:
lex soli: By birth in the United Kingdom to a parent who is a British citizen at the time of the birth, or to a parent who is settled in the United Kingdom
lex sanguinis: By descent if one of the parents is a British citizen otherwise than by descent (for example by birth, adoption, registration or naturalisation in the United Kingdom).
Neither is asserted in the NASA bio. He could have been born to tourists or expats temporarily residing in the UK. More info at
British nationality law.
Toddst1 (
talk) 23:30, 19 October 2010 (UTC)reply
I am a little puzzled by this as well. His bio doesn't mention anything about emigration; I'm fairly sure he was born to US parents -
RAF South Ruislip was a major US airbase. I'm going to remove the category/infobox note until we have positive evidence otherwise.
Andrew Gray (
talk) 22:58, 27 February 2013 (UTC)reply
It is puzzling to not have any information about his nationality. We know that he was born close to a US military establishment in Britain and graduated from a school close to a USAF base in Ohio. It's fair to believe that he might have been a US citizen by the time he graduated from the USAF academy, but without more information any statements whatsoever about his nationality and how he obtained it are based on circumstantial evidence and guesswork. All that I can add are two facts from online British public birth records: his mother's name before marriage was Frye, and his older sibling Gary C Johnson was also born in the same part of Britain at some time before the end of 1960.
162.196.161.203 (
talk) 04:11, 17 December 2016 (UTC)reply
The above nationality qualifications are misleading. At the time, British citizenship was acquired by birth in the UK regardless of parental status, but with a diplomatic exception that may or may not apply in this case (cf.
History_of_British_nationality_law#Acquisition_of_Citizenship_of_the_UK_and_Colonies). Note that a British birth certificate from this era would normally be regarded as sufficient proof of citizenship. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
163.1.246.64 (
talk) 11:47, 6 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Updated the article to reflect British nationality with cites.
Whizz40 (
talk) 11:03, 29 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Under References the link to '"Astronauts and the BSA". Fact sheet. Boy Scouts of America. Retrieved 2006-03-20.', is 404. This link, www.scouting.org/FILESTORE/pdf/02-558.pdf, appears to be a good substitute, if someone with better html-mojo than I can put it in place.
204.210.234.27 (
talk) 21:55, 19 February 2012 (UTC) Mikereply
Link in ref has been changed and updated appropriately.--
NavyBlue84 23:16, 19 February 2012 (UTC)reply