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✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 01:01, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
I added a picture of the mall to the article's Info Box. It's from Wikimedia Commons, and the rights to use it are good. I chose this one out of a total of 58 currently available, because it shows an entrance to the mall, with the malls name over the entry way. There are not currently any photos of the malls food court on the Wiki Commons. Juneau Mike ( talk) 13:37, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
Could someone add an archive to reference number 3? I can't access it. Trade ( talk) 23:42, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
Is bystander the right word to use here to describe someone who was directly involved in the events? I feel like a bystander is more like someone who was a witness but did not get involved. Additionally, why do we refer to this "bystander" by name in the intro but not the perpetrator? I feel like this affects the neutrality of the article. Landfish7 ( talk) 03:42, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
I noticed the perpetrator was removed from that lead, but the civilian bystander's name was added. Both are non-notable and do not need to be mentioned in the lead. I removed the civilian, but it was reverted with no explanation. Please explain here. (It should stay removed until this is resolved.) Richard-of-Earth ( talk) 20:03, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
@ Richard-of-Earth: I don't think this is necessary -- the name is mentioned multiple times in the article. The perpetrator is a non-notable nobody, who is now dead, and his only claim to fame is attempting to commit mass murder. Where he went to high school doesn't really seem like a major aspect of the event. Does it serve a purpose for readers to be going off about this in the first sentence? jp× g 02:54, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
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✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 01:01, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
I added a picture of the mall to the article's Info Box. It's from Wikimedia Commons, and the rights to use it are good. I chose this one out of a total of 58 currently available, because it shows an entrance to the mall, with the malls name over the entry way. There are not currently any photos of the malls food court on the Wiki Commons. Juneau Mike ( talk) 13:37, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
Could someone add an archive to reference number 3? I can't access it. Trade ( talk) 23:42, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
Is bystander the right word to use here to describe someone who was directly involved in the events? I feel like a bystander is more like someone who was a witness but did not get involved. Additionally, why do we refer to this "bystander" by name in the intro but not the perpetrator? I feel like this affects the neutrality of the article. Landfish7 ( talk) 03:42, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
I noticed the perpetrator was removed from that lead, but the civilian bystander's name was added. Both are non-notable and do not need to be mentioned in the lead. I removed the civilian, but it was reverted with no explanation. Please explain here. (It should stay removed until this is resolved.) Richard-of-Earth ( talk) 20:03, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
@ Richard-of-Earth: I don't think this is necessary -- the name is mentioned multiple times in the article. The perpetrator is a non-notable nobody, who is now dead, and his only claim to fame is attempting to commit mass murder. Where he went to high school doesn't really seem like a major aspect of the event. Does it serve a purpose for readers to be going off about this in the first sentence? jp× g 02:54, 7 December 2022 (UTC)