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• Sbmeirow • Talk • 18:43, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
What is it that needs to be cleaned up on this page? LegCircus 02:44, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
I just added Andy Cabic to the famous residents section and noticed that it seemed cluttered. What about alphabetical order, and maybe organizing the section into parts that order people according to what they're famous for (i.e. Famous Musicians, Famous Sports Professionals, Famous Authors, etc.). Also, what's with the Chris Daughtry entry? They way I read it it seemed that he should be listed in the McLeansville or Oak ridge famous residents sections or, assuming Oak Ridge counts as a part of Greensboro, do we edit his entry to say he's from Greensboro? 65sense 15:17, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
It there any information on the future Triad Tower? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.54.213.68 ( talk • contribs) 22:46, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
I removed the grasshoppers logo on the page, as it was blocking the content.-- Jnelson09 00:30, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
The description of the Greensboro ambush, massacre, shootout, is a bit lacking. It's an extremely contestable point though. And the Klan, who caravaned into the anti-klan protest, got out of their cars and shot many of the protesters are not "counter-protesters." they did not counter protest - they got out of their cars and starting shooting. they had no interest in protesting. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.154.65.5 ( talk • contribs) 06:02, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
How is the name pronounced? Can someone add an IPA transcription? 86.136.94.95 01:32, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Why is Greensboro's nickname "Gate City"? Is it a gateway to the Carolinas? Do the houses have many gates? It's just silly to have a nickname without an explanation behind it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.161.226.112 ( talk • contribs) 15:34, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Around the "Education" section of this article we get into a mass of external links, some of which have their own page. Any idea what to do? AMP'd 00:18, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
I think some IP address vandalized this page...unless we didn't need Greensboro's history. If this was legit please revert my edit. AMP'd 20:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
This page is very long to have no references at all—ideally every WIkipedia article will have references. I changed the Sister Cities link someone added into a reference, and added a Refs section. It'd be great if other editors could substantiate some of the great information in the article. — johndburger 02:32, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Although I may have simply been brought up in a quaker-biased community, I would think that this article would include more emphasis on the Quaker roots of Greensboro, since the Guilford woods were the beginning of the underground railroad near one of the Quaker meeting houses, and there are many other quaker meetings in the are for an area far from Pennsylvania. -- 65.188.149.173 04:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
I am curious, for those folks living here, are there employment opportunities and if so, are they more for blue collar or white collar? Seeing as it is a university town I would imagine things are looking good, but I just wonder, please. 24.165.20.220 23:17, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi - I just reverted an edit due to some provocative wording, about neighborhoods having won their fight by routing flights over other neighborhoods). While I agree that the article on Greensboro is out of balance, I suggest to attempt to represent either sides rather than letting onself down to the daily local political rant. Anyway - just a suggestion, I won't be opposing further edits here. Thanks, Jens Koeplinger 02:10, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
It doesn't mention Lake Jeanette as a neighborhood. Is this not big enough to be considered? I'm moving there and am curious. Speaking of which, is it Lake Jeanette or Lake Janette? - Mike Payne 09:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
The text refers to the influence of the "popularity of the automobile," then a moment later to "streetcar suburbs." Streetcars are not automobiles, and development along streetcar lines looks very different from automobile-driven development. So which is it here? Or are these two sentences actually talking about different parts of the city? - 66.37.81.26 05:18, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
I recently reverted a change that added the text "It (Greensboro) is also the 3rd largest city in North Carolina" because it was repetitive. I'm pretty sure that size refers to population, and the text was added right above a statement that said "Greensboro is the third most populous city in North Carolina". Can we figure out how large Greensboro is in terms of area and compare it to other cities to remove confusion? - AMP'd 20:33, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
I edited the caption under the picture of Blandwood Mansion specifically because the Mansion is mentioned, but no connection is made between that and the photo of the mansion itself. So I am going to change it back, do not change it. -- 68.155.245.251 00:59, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
I changed Kelly Wigglesworth to Kelly Wiglesworth (both are the same page) because the spelling of the page that the link directs to is the second. There is no reason to correct the spelling to have two G's. - AMP'd 16:06, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
I removed the section about Greensboro's unique park oriented neighborhoods. Park neighborhoods are not unique to Greensboro (see Myers Park in Charlotte, Cameron Park in Raleigh, Roland Park in Baltimore...etc) nor do all these neighborhoods include the work park in their name (Starmount Forest, Lake Daniel). Most west Greensboro neighborhoods have parks within their bounds, but so do a great number in High Point, Winston-Salem, Durham, etc. It was a popular suburban template for most communities built on rolling terrain in the early twentieth century. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.13.201.23 ( talk) 19:07, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Much of the arts section reads like a brochure:
I can just delete the unencyclopedic bits if no one else gets to this. — johndburger 01:54, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be some dispute over Greensboro's MSA population. On it's wiki page, I've the number change from 689,000 to 1.7million to 704,000 and then back to 689,000 in a span of one week.At the same time, High-Point's metro has remained at 1.7million. I realize that their is an difference between a MSA and a CSA. I'm just wondering why the triad area can just be considered and MSA instead of a CSA. Greensboro, High Point and Winston-Salem pretty much has the same metro area. Is it because the area between the cities are not urbanized enough? —Preceding unsigned comment added by East89 ( talk • contribs) 21:33, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Greensboro is the 3rd largest city in north carolina.Home to 223,891 residents.Its the best place to relax.July is the hottest time of the year, when Janurary is the coldest time of the year with the temperture of 43 degrees farenhieght.Greensboro is the 40th most fun state, so why wouldn"t you want to go there.Plus thats 40 out of 262 cities in the United States of America.Just picture that 262 cities in the United States of America when Greensboro is number 40,thats a big differance.So when you go to Greensboro, North Carolina think about this and be thankful that god gave us Greensboro, North Carolina.
By, Sidnie LaMotte, age 9 Plainfield Illinois —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.15.148.216 ( talk) 23:40, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Greensboro, North Carolina's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
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Hi. I'm going through all the US Cities (as per List of United States cities by population) in an effort to provide some uniformity in structure. Anyone have an issue with me restructuring this article as per Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline. I won't be changing any content, merely the order. Occasionally, I will also move a picture just to clean up spacing issues. I've already gone through the top 20 or so on the above list, if you'd like to see how they turned out. Thoughts? Onel5969 ( talk) 19:52, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
While the IPs are reverting, the fact is, that section really isn't needed and is more WP:NOTNEWS than encyclopedia, so I think leaving it deleted is best for the encyclopedia. Dennis - 2¢ 03:00, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
I started this list because the list here was ridiculously large and it starts to look like petty bragging. There is more material under that section that is unsourced and due to get deleted, or just minor. The article simply has too much fluffy content. Greensboro is an interesting town with a rich history, we don't need the fluff here. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 00:21, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
Greensboro 101 ( http://www.greensboro101.com) is being removed from the Media section as not being notable. I think the notable requirement applies to stand alone entries, so the bar should be lower for simple inclusion in this section. Nonetheless, Greensboro 101 is notable. It has its roots as a pioneer in the citizen journalism movement and was noticed by The Wall Street Journal, The LA Times, the Annengurg J School, and Jay Rosen among others. It continues to honor its roots by featuring writing and media from bloggers, citizens, independent institutions and organizations alongside content from "traditional" local media. It has been in constant operation since 2005, longer that some of the other media listed in this section. It is on track to have an annualized 1 million human page views, via half a million visits from an estimated 60,000 human individuals (bots and search engines not included.) It is alternative and independent media devoted to giving attention to matters of local importance without prejudice for or allegiance to any single source.
The "not notable" justification came with no explanation. I have offered an explanation for why it is notable. Unfamiliarity should not cloud judgement here. Please restore it and its link. It is appropriate and important. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.76.138.132 ( talk) 23:20, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Am I understanding your concern correctly that including Greensboro101.com may give undue weight to Greensboro, NC?
Consideration of "Due Weight" is to maintain neutrality of point of view "which means representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without bias, all of the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic." When looking at the other content in the section in which Greensboro101.com belongs, it is doubtful we are even dealing with "point of view" here as evidenced by the absurdity of the concern that including Greensboro101.com in a list of local media would give "undue weight" to Greensboro, NC. The Media section is merely descriptive lists. It's not point of view. Nonetheless, for the sake of discussion, let's consider this standard and its requirement for representing views "without bias" and "as far as possible": removing Greensboro101.com is not meeting those goals. Removal is contrary to those goals. Removal is biased and limiting.
Also, suggesting that this addition could be challenged because it is not "supported by a citation from an independent, reliable source," is to ignore the nature of this entire Media section -- an intentional introduction, yet again, of bias. Look at the newspaper entries in the same section Those newspapers and their descriptions are listed without citation. So let's be fair and unbiased as the guideline cited by Onel5969 requires of us. If lists of local media can include entries without citation simply because those entities exist as local media, it is unfair and biased to impose citation criteria on one media entity that is not required of the others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.76.138.132 ( talk) 13:12, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Fair enough. And I take your point about IP editors. As I'm becoming more involved, I can see the value of using a screen name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.76.138.132 ( talk) 15:50, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
I'm unsure why any half-rational listing of Greensboro, North Carolina-area media would omit Greensboro101.com. As a longtime local blogger (since 1998), journalist (since 1987) and commentator, when I want to know what the geographic area's online community thinks about a subject, I go there first. As noted by other commenters, the site has been a longtime anchor in the area's citizen-journalism movement -- a movement observed and reported upon by national media outlets beginning more than a decade ago. And also as noted by other commenters, removing Greensboro101.com from the list seems to run contrary to the list's own criteria. Lexalexander ( talk) 16:15, 6 November 2015 (UTC)lexalexander (Lex Alexander)
Greensboro 101 absolutely belongs on any meaningful list of local media. The site aggregates and curates local news and commentary, and has been a relevant part of the GSO media scene for many years. -- Edward Cone, longtime journalist, blogger, and former News & Record columnist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.229.52.169 ( talk) 16:34, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Greensboro 101 is central to the online news scene in Greensboro, NC. I've been a journalist and blogger in the area since 2002 and Greensboro 101 has been an important part of the media scene for at least a decade. It's become increasingly important as newspapers have scaled back coverage and is a central place for people to learn about what's happening in the community. I'm currently the editor of YES! Weekly in Greensboro and fully support Greensboro 101 being included in this Wikipedia article. - Jeff Sykes, Editor, YES! Weekly — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.71.8.31 ( talk) 16:48, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Triad City Beat also should be included in the list. They are an alternative newspaper that circulates in the area about 6,000 copies each week. They have been in publication for almost two years now and are members of the Association of Alternative News Media. Not sure if they are in the NC Press association or not. They definitely qualify as a newspaper. Jeff Sykes, Editor, YES! Weekly — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.71.8.31 ( talk) 16:53, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
I am the editor of Triad City Beat, a 2-year-old altweekly in covering the NC Piedmont Triad region. I've been involved in the alternative press since 1994, and my staff and I have won both sate and national awards. One correction to Sykes: We have never made fewer than 10,000 copies a week. Can't understand why anyone would try to keep us off this list. I'll also vouch for Greensboro101, which has been aggregating Greensboro news for more than a decade. Just a few weeks ago they broke a pretty big story, too. — Brian Clarey, editor in chief, Triad City Beat. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.75.234.185 ( talk) 19:58, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Also: The Hamburger Square Post has been gone for years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.75.234.185 ( talk) 20:11, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
So where are we on Triad City Beat, Dennis? We're already listed on the Association of Alternative Newsmedia site — accepted for membership in July. — Brian Clarey — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.75.234.185 ( talk) 19:06, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
I keep removing this link, well twice, and someone else has, because we aren't a depository of every business or website that is related to Greensboro. The IP that keeps adding it needs to read WP:BURDEN and WP:BRD. Adding it back without finding a consensus to do so on this talk page will be seen as spamming, and appropriate action will be taken. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 21:21, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Please do not make this personal by trying to impugn people's motives. Let's stick to the facts. Which are these, the removal of Greensboro101.com from the list of local media on the Greensboro, NC page and subsequent "justifications" have been conducted capriciously with ignorance of facts, reckless misrepresentations, unfounded assumptions, misunderstanding of WP guidelines, bias and constantly shifting criteria. This is not my opinion, but fact, as I'll document now.
There a couple of ways to build consensus. I can issue a call to arms and try to round up an overwhelming force to overcome these three editors, or I can appeal to their sense of fair play, reason and common sense. So, to these editors: When your understanding has been demonstrated to be misinformed, when you have cited guidelines that don't apply or worse, contradict your judgements, when you find yourselves having to grasp for new justification when your originals have been rationally refuted, when you find yourself trying to marginalize a contributor by impugning his motives, it's time to change your mind. I invite you to do so. People should not have to expend this much time and effort to make such a small, albeit worthwhile, addition to Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.76.138.132 ( talk) 14:53, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
This whole thing is starting to seem really petty. I have been part of the media landscape in Greensboro/High Point/Winston-Salem for 15 years. I've been getting info from Greensboro101 for 10 of those years. It seems to me that Wikipedia's mission is to accurately reflect how people in the city get their information, and not these little pissing matches. — Brian Clarey — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.75.234.185 ( talk) 19:08, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
I've just removed it for reasons explained in my edit summary. Graham 87 13:48, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
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What is it that needs to be cleaned up on this page? LegCircus 02:44, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
I just added Andy Cabic to the famous residents section and noticed that it seemed cluttered. What about alphabetical order, and maybe organizing the section into parts that order people according to what they're famous for (i.e. Famous Musicians, Famous Sports Professionals, Famous Authors, etc.). Also, what's with the Chris Daughtry entry? They way I read it it seemed that he should be listed in the McLeansville or Oak ridge famous residents sections or, assuming Oak Ridge counts as a part of Greensboro, do we edit his entry to say he's from Greensboro? 65sense 15:17, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
It there any information on the future Triad Tower? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.54.213.68 ( talk • contribs) 22:46, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
I removed the grasshoppers logo on the page, as it was blocking the content.-- Jnelson09 00:30, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
The description of the Greensboro ambush, massacre, shootout, is a bit lacking. It's an extremely contestable point though. And the Klan, who caravaned into the anti-klan protest, got out of their cars and shot many of the protesters are not "counter-protesters." they did not counter protest - they got out of their cars and starting shooting. they had no interest in protesting. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.154.65.5 ( talk • contribs) 06:02, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
How is the name pronounced? Can someone add an IPA transcription? 86.136.94.95 01:32, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Why is Greensboro's nickname "Gate City"? Is it a gateway to the Carolinas? Do the houses have many gates? It's just silly to have a nickname without an explanation behind it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.161.226.112 ( talk • contribs) 15:34, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Around the "Education" section of this article we get into a mass of external links, some of which have their own page. Any idea what to do? AMP'd 00:18, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
I think some IP address vandalized this page...unless we didn't need Greensboro's history. If this was legit please revert my edit. AMP'd 20:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
This page is very long to have no references at all—ideally every WIkipedia article will have references. I changed the Sister Cities link someone added into a reference, and added a Refs section. It'd be great if other editors could substantiate some of the great information in the article. — johndburger 02:32, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Although I may have simply been brought up in a quaker-biased community, I would think that this article would include more emphasis on the Quaker roots of Greensboro, since the Guilford woods were the beginning of the underground railroad near one of the Quaker meeting houses, and there are many other quaker meetings in the are for an area far from Pennsylvania. -- 65.188.149.173 04:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
I am curious, for those folks living here, are there employment opportunities and if so, are they more for blue collar or white collar? Seeing as it is a university town I would imagine things are looking good, but I just wonder, please. 24.165.20.220 23:17, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi - I just reverted an edit due to some provocative wording, about neighborhoods having won their fight by routing flights over other neighborhoods). While I agree that the article on Greensboro is out of balance, I suggest to attempt to represent either sides rather than letting onself down to the daily local political rant. Anyway - just a suggestion, I won't be opposing further edits here. Thanks, Jens Koeplinger 02:10, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
It doesn't mention Lake Jeanette as a neighborhood. Is this not big enough to be considered? I'm moving there and am curious. Speaking of which, is it Lake Jeanette or Lake Janette? - Mike Payne 09:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
The text refers to the influence of the "popularity of the automobile," then a moment later to "streetcar suburbs." Streetcars are not automobiles, and development along streetcar lines looks very different from automobile-driven development. So which is it here? Or are these two sentences actually talking about different parts of the city? - 66.37.81.26 05:18, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
I recently reverted a change that added the text "It (Greensboro) is also the 3rd largest city in North Carolina" because it was repetitive. I'm pretty sure that size refers to population, and the text was added right above a statement that said "Greensboro is the third most populous city in North Carolina". Can we figure out how large Greensboro is in terms of area and compare it to other cities to remove confusion? - AMP'd 20:33, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
I edited the caption under the picture of Blandwood Mansion specifically because the Mansion is mentioned, but no connection is made between that and the photo of the mansion itself. So I am going to change it back, do not change it. -- 68.155.245.251 00:59, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
I changed Kelly Wigglesworth to Kelly Wiglesworth (both are the same page) because the spelling of the page that the link directs to is the second. There is no reason to correct the spelling to have two G's. - AMP'd 16:06, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
I removed the section about Greensboro's unique park oriented neighborhoods. Park neighborhoods are not unique to Greensboro (see Myers Park in Charlotte, Cameron Park in Raleigh, Roland Park in Baltimore...etc) nor do all these neighborhoods include the work park in their name (Starmount Forest, Lake Daniel). Most west Greensboro neighborhoods have parks within their bounds, but so do a great number in High Point, Winston-Salem, Durham, etc. It was a popular suburban template for most communities built on rolling terrain in the early twentieth century. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.13.201.23 ( talk) 19:07, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Much of the arts section reads like a brochure:
I can just delete the unencyclopedic bits if no one else gets to this. — johndburger 01:54, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be some dispute over Greensboro's MSA population. On it's wiki page, I've the number change from 689,000 to 1.7million to 704,000 and then back to 689,000 in a span of one week.At the same time, High-Point's metro has remained at 1.7million. I realize that their is an difference between a MSA and a CSA. I'm just wondering why the triad area can just be considered and MSA instead of a CSA. Greensboro, High Point and Winston-Salem pretty much has the same metro area. Is it because the area between the cities are not urbanized enough? —Preceding unsigned comment added by East89 ( talk • contribs) 21:33, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Greensboro is the 3rd largest city in north carolina.Home to 223,891 residents.Its the best place to relax.July is the hottest time of the year, when Janurary is the coldest time of the year with the temperture of 43 degrees farenhieght.Greensboro is the 40th most fun state, so why wouldn"t you want to go there.Plus thats 40 out of 262 cities in the United States of America.Just picture that 262 cities in the United States of America when Greensboro is number 40,thats a big differance.So when you go to Greensboro, North Carolina think about this and be thankful that god gave us Greensboro, North Carolina.
By, Sidnie LaMotte, age 9 Plainfield Illinois —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.15.148.216 ( talk) 23:40, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Greensboro, North Carolina's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "PopEstBigCities":
Reference named "PopEstCBSA":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 08:40, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
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Hi. I'm going through all the US Cities (as per List of United States cities by population) in an effort to provide some uniformity in structure. Anyone have an issue with me restructuring this article as per Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline. I won't be changing any content, merely the order. Occasionally, I will also move a picture just to clean up spacing issues. I've already gone through the top 20 or so on the above list, if you'd like to see how they turned out. Thoughts? Onel5969 ( talk) 19:52, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
While the IPs are reverting, the fact is, that section really isn't needed and is more WP:NOTNEWS than encyclopedia, so I think leaving it deleted is best for the encyclopedia. Dennis - 2¢ 03:00, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
I started this list because the list here was ridiculously large and it starts to look like petty bragging. There is more material under that section that is unsourced and due to get deleted, or just minor. The article simply has too much fluffy content. Greensboro is an interesting town with a rich history, we don't need the fluff here. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 00:21, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
Greensboro 101 ( http://www.greensboro101.com) is being removed from the Media section as not being notable. I think the notable requirement applies to stand alone entries, so the bar should be lower for simple inclusion in this section. Nonetheless, Greensboro 101 is notable. It has its roots as a pioneer in the citizen journalism movement and was noticed by The Wall Street Journal, The LA Times, the Annengurg J School, and Jay Rosen among others. It continues to honor its roots by featuring writing and media from bloggers, citizens, independent institutions and organizations alongside content from "traditional" local media. It has been in constant operation since 2005, longer that some of the other media listed in this section. It is on track to have an annualized 1 million human page views, via half a million visits from an estimated 60,000 human individuals (bots and search engines not included.) It is alternative and independent media devoted to giving attention to matters of local importance without prejudice for or allegiance to any single source.
The "not notable" justification came with no explanation. I have offered an explanation for why it is notable. Unfamiliarity should not cloud judgement here. Please restore it and its link. It is appropriate and important. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.76.138.132 ( talk) 23:20, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Am I understanding your concern correctly that including Greensboro101.com may give undue weight to Greensboro, NC?
Consideration of "Due Weight" is to maintain neutrality of point of view "which means representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without bias, all of the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic." When looking at the other content in the section in which Greensboro101.com belongs, it is doubtful we are even dealing with "point of view" here as evidenced by the absurdity of the concern that including Greensboro101.com in a list of local media would give "undue weight" to Greensboro, NC. The Media section is merely descriptive lists. It's not point of view. Nonetheless, for the sake of discussion, let's consider this standard and its requirement for representing views "without bias" and "as far as possible": removing Greensboro101.com is not meeting those goals. Removal is contrary to those goals. Removal is biased and limiting.
Also, suggesting that this addition could be challenged because it is not "supported by a citation from an independent, reliable source," is to ignore the nature of this entire Media section -- an intentional introduction, yet again, of bias. Look at the newspaper entries in the same section Those newspapers and their descriptions are listed without citation. So let's be fair and unbiased as the guideline cited by Onel5969 requires of us. If lists of local media can include entries without citation simply because those entities exist as local media, it is unfair and biased to impose citation criteria on one media entity that is not required of the others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.76.138.132 ( talk) 13:12, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Fair enough. And I take your point about IP editors. As I'm becoming more involved, I can see the value of using a screen name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.76.138.132 ( talk) 15:50, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
I'm unsure why any half-rational listing of Greensboro, North Carolina-area media would omit Greensboro101.com. As a longtime local blogger (since 1998), journalist (since 1987) and commentator, when I want to know what the geographic area's online community thinks about a subject, I go there first. As noted by other commenters, the site has been a longtime anchor in the area's citizen-journalism movement -- a movement observed and reported upon by national media outlets beginning more than a decade ago. And also as noted by other commenters, removing Greensboro101.com from the list seems to run contrary to the list's own criteria. Lexalexander ( talk) 16:15, 6 November 2015 (UTC)lexalexander (Lex Alexander)
Greensboro 101 absolutely belongs on any meaningful list of local media. The site aggregates and curates local news and commentary, and has been a relevant part of the GSO media scene for many years. -- Edward Cone, longtime journalist, blogger, and former News & Record columnist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.229.52.169 ( talk) 16:34, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Greensboro 101 is central to the online news scene in Greensboro, NC. I've been a journalist and blogger in the area since 2002 and Greensboro 101 has been an important part of the media scene for at least a decade. It's become increasingly important as newspapers have scaled back coverage and is a central place for people to learn about what's happening in the community. I'm currently the editor of YES! Weekly in Greensboro and fully support Greensboro 101 being included in this Wikipedia article. - Jeff Sykes, Editor, YES! Weekly — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.71.8.31 ( talk) 16:48, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Triad City Beat also should be included in the list. They are an alternative newspaper that circulates in the area about 6,000 copies each week. They have been in publication for almost two years now and are members of the Association of Alternative News Media. Not sure if they are in the NC Press association or not. They definitely qualify as a newspaper. Jeff Sykes, Editor, YES! Weekly — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.71.8.31 ( talk) 16:53, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
I am the editor of Triad City Beat, a 2-year-old altweekly in covering the NC Piedmont Triad region. I've been involved in the alternative press since 1994, and my staff and I have won both sate and national awards. One correction to Sykes: We have never made fewer than 10,000 copies a week. Can't understand why anyone would try to keep us off this list. I'll also vouch for Greensboro101, which has been aggregating Greensboro news for more than a decade. Just a few weeks ago they broke a pretty big story, too. — Brian Clarey, editor in chief, Triad City Beat. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.75.234.185 ( talk) 19:58, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Also: The Hamburger Square Post has been gone for years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.75.234.185 ( talk) 20:11, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
So where are we on Triad City Beat, Dennis? We're already listed on the Association of Alternative Newsmedia site — accepted for membership in July. — Brian Clarey — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.75.234.185 ( talk) 19:06, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
I keep removing this link, well twice, and someone else has, because we aren't a depository of every business or website that is related to Greensboro. The IP that keeps adding it needs to read WP:BURDEN and WP:BRD. Adding it back without finding a consensus to do so on this talk page will be seen as spamming, and appropriate action will be taken. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 21:21, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Please do not make this personal by trying to impugn people's motives. Let's stick to the facts. Which are these, the removal of Greensboro101.com from the list of local media on the Greensboro, NC page and subsequent "justifications" have been conducted capriciously with ignorance of facts, reckless misrepresentations, unfounded assumptions, misunderstanding of WP guidelines, bias and constantly shifting criteria. This is not my opinion, but fact, as I'll document now.
There a couple of ways to build consensus. I can issue a call to arms and try to round up an overwhelming force to overcome these three editors, or I can appeal to their sense of fair play, reason and common sense. So, to these editors: When your understanding has been demonstrated to be misinformed, when you have cited guidelines that don't apply or worse, contradict your judgements, when you find yourselves having to grasp for new justification when your originals have been rationally refuted, when you find yourself trying to marginalize a contributor by impugning his motives, it's time to change your mind. I invite you to do so. People should not have to expend this much time and effort to make such a small, albeit worthwhile, addition to Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.76.138.132 ( talk) 14:53, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
This whole thing is starting to seem really petty. I have been part of the media landscape in Greensboro/High Point/Winston-Salem for 15 years. I've been getting info from Greensboro101 for 10 of those years. It seems to me that Wikipedia's mission is to accurately reflect how people in the city get their information, and not these little pissing matches. — Brian Clarey — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.75.234.185 ( talk) 19:08, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
I've just removed it for reasons explained in my edit summary. Graham 87 13:48, 4 July 2020 (UTC)