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I think the statement about the green in the Irish flag being derived from shamrock is untrue. See this link to the FOTW website [1]. There's no mention of it on that site. If no dissenters, I'll remove the statement in a couple of days. Arcturus 20:29, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
The green in the Irish flag represents the mainly Catholic 26 republican counties of Ireland, the orange represents the other 6 mainly Protestant counties in Northern Ireland. Over the years a lot of conflict has occured between the two major religions of the country and so the white represents the anticipated peace. laura murphy (<email removed for your protection>), 18.41, 12 april 2007
Why is jealousy associated with the color green? Drutt 06:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC) Shakespeare -
I see that the main image of this article (the very first one) is that of a mossy-green fountain in Austria.
Now, even though this image shows something green, I think that there could be some other better image to serve as cover image for this article. Here are my suggestions for other images to replace the current one as cover image:
♠ Tom @ s Bat 01:14, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
You know what? I´ve changed my mind... The image of that green fountain looks good; I had thought that there was a "color" infobox for green in general, but as their isn´t one on this article, the imagewould not look very well alone. I´ll investigate a bit on the possibility of an infobox "color" for all of green in general and then I´ll see about its image... ♠ Tom @ s Bat 20:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I see thet the gradient image has been removed... So, no main infobox image at all? ♠ TomasBat 15:57, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
This article is difficult to read. If we want it to be a good article, we will need to organize it more. I'll add some headings and order to it, see how it goes.
Can someone please get rid of that weasel word "considered" that seems to be creeping its way through Wikipedia like a virus ?! Its fine when tiptoeing round a sensitive topic which is legitimately a matter of opinion, but it is becoming plastered (OK, I've now mixed my metaphors) across toomany articles (It's political correctness gone mad, I tell you !!!) (Chris Jones - not signed in)
In my opinion, this article still needs decent sections about green in art and art history, about green in color science, and a descriptive section about green pigments and industrial production of green things (instead of just a list of pigments), and maybe a section about how the green light used in CRTs/LCDs is produced and how green is mixed from cyan and yellow inks in printers. Does anyone know of good sources that might detail the history of the use of green in painting? -- jacobolus (t) 20:56, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't think it's a good idea to give each color name ("kelly green", "islamic green", etc.) its own article; they are unlikely to ever be more than stubs. What we should do instead is make a separate article called something like "Named variations of green", and consolidate them all there, also including "olive green", "bright green", "office green", "hunter green", "emerald green", etc. etc. -- jacobolus (t) 15:59, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
This article covers many different shades of green, not just #00ff00. I'm trying to find a source that will outline the ranges of green on the hex scale, but no luck so far. Anyhow, I think that the infobox should outline ranges, not one specific shade, at least for these main articles. Any idea where this kind of information can be found. Wrad 20:08, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Here is a good ref for this http://www.olympusmicro.com/primer/lightandcolor/humanvisionintro.html . I'm not too confident in my ability to summarize the relevant points, though. Wrad 04:24, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Object-- spring green is at 150 degrees on the HSV color wheel and green is at 120 degrees. They are separate and distinct colors as different as red and orange or as orange and yellow (those colors are also 30 degress from each other). Spring green is a very important color because it is one of the 12 basic colors of the HSV color wheel at 30 degree intervals from each other (the 12 colors are: red, orange, yellow, chartreuse, green, spring green, cyan, azure, blue, violet, magenta, and rose), and therefore spring green should remain in its own article since it is one of the 12 colors and is therefore a color of notable significance in its own right. There are also HSL Color Charts for calculating rough ballpark figures for the hsv (hsl) values for any color. The charts are halfway down the website. There are 12 charts, one for each of the 12 colors: W3C TR CSS3 Color Module, HTML4 color keywords HSL Color Charts: Keraunos 10:01, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Besides, the article on green is so long there is no room for any more colors. Keraunos
Keraunos, just as an aside, could you not mark brand new discussion comments as "minor edits"? Thanks. :) -- jacobolus (t) 10:56, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Green and computing is a well-established relationship in popular culture. Text on old-fashioned computers being a glowing green colour has long been the stereotype in fiction and the media; I guess that idea comes from the early Commodore systems, like the TRS 80's. Anyway, the relationship between the colour and computing is clear to anyone who's seen the Matrix movies, where copious amounts of green were used in a huge number of scenes to remind the viewers how the series was about a virtual computer reality. I'm also pretty sure scenes in movies at night with a character at a computer usually have the room bathed in green. I don't really have the expertise to write about the subject, but if anyone can think of a more accurate and eloquent description of the correlation and could add something to the article, that would be much appreciated. VolatileChemical 00:32, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
How about that! I'm sure I'll have a bit more research to do in the lower sections, but it sure does feel good to have things verified. Wrad ( talk) 22:13, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Why was another infobox added? Last I knew, we seemed to have agreed not to list shades, and were debating the worth of an infobox altogether. Wrad 19:15, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Green | |
---|---|
Spectral coordinates | |
Wavelength | 520–570 nm |
Frequency | ??? THz |
Common connotations | |
sickness, health, growth, hope, nature, youth, Islam, and envy | |
Color coordinates | |
Hex triplet | #008000 |
sRGBB ( r, g, b) | (0, 128, 0) |
HSV ( h, s, v) | (120°, 100%, 50%) |
CIELChuv ( L, C, h) | (46, 72, 128°) |
Source | HTML/CSS [1] |
B: Normalized to [0–255] (byte) |
I added the second info box because the only authoritative source we have for color numbers, the HTML/X11 specs, show green as 008000 and lime as 00FF00; both are important prototypical greens, in my opinion, one for the name and one for the value. I'd be OK doing it some other way, but since I just had reverted someone changing to an unsourced definition, this was intended to forestall such changes. Dicklyon 23:10, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
This is a beautiful piece of work, but it still needs work in one section with respect to the good article criteria.
Popped into a few other articles on various colors - red, black, white, yellow. This article is so very, very well written in comparison. Thank you for the wonderful work! SriMesh | talk 02:47, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
SriMesh | talk 02:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Should something be done with this list? Chlorophyll is mentioned now in the new prose in the minerals section. Quinoline Yellow, a limish yellow, also known as E104 and FD&C Yellow No 10 seems to be baned in many places recently, especially with concerns on the effects of hyperactivity in children. Green S, E142 also seems to be prohibited in many countries apparently for similar reasons as E104. PaleAqua ( talk) 05:40, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Growth needs disambig. Randomblue ( talk) 19:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC) Quinoline Yellow as well Randomblue ( talk) 19:50, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
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I think the statement about the green in the Irish flag being derived from shamrock is untrue. See this link to the FOTW website [1]. There's no mention of it on that site. If no dissenters, I'll remove the statement in a couple of days. Arcturus 20:29, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
The green in the Irish flag represents the mainly Catholic 26 republican counties of Ireland, the orange represents the other 6 mainly Protestant counties in Northern Ireland. Over the years a lot of conflict has occured between the two major religions of the country and so the white represents the anticipated peace. laura murphy (<email removed for your protection>), 18.41, 12 april 2007
Why is jealousy associated with the color green? Drutt 06:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC) Shakespeare -
I see that the main image of this article (the very first one) is that of a mossy-green fountain in Austria.
Now, even though this image shows something green, I think that there could be some other better image to serve as cover image for this article. Here are my suggestions for other images to replace the current one as cover image:
♠ Tom @ s Bat 01:14, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
You know what? I´ve changed my mind... The image of that green fountain looks good; I had thought that there was a "color" infobox for green in general, but as their isn´t one on this article, the imagewould not look very well alone. I´ll investigate a bit on the possibility of an infobox "color" for all of green in general and then I´ll see about its image... ♠ Tom @ s Bat 20:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I see thet the gradient image has been removed... So, no main infobox image at all? ♠ TomasBat 15:57, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
This article is difficult to read. If we want it to be a good article, we will need to organize it more. I'll add some headings and order to it, see how it goes.
Can someone please get rid of that weasel word "considered" that seems to be creeping its way through Wikipedia like a virus ?! Its fine when tiptoeing round a sensitive topic which is legitimately a matter of opinion, but it is becoming plastered (OK, I've now mixed my metaphors) across toomany articles (It's political correctness gone mad, I tell you !!!) (Chris Jones - not signed in)
In my opinion, this article still needs decent sections about green in art and art history, about green in color science, and a descriptive section about green pigments and industrial production of green things (instead of just a list of pigments), and maybe a section about how the green light used in CRTs/LCDs is produced and how green is mixed from cyan and yellow inks in printers. Does anyone know of good sources that might detail the history of the use of green in painting? -- jacobolus (t) 20:56, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't think it's a good idea to give each color name ("kelly green", "islamic green", etc.) its own article; they are unlikely to ever be more than stubs. What we should do instead is make a separate article called something like "Named variations of green", and consolidate them all there, also including "olive green", "bright green", "office green", "hunter green", "emerald green", etc. etc. -- jacobolus (t) 15:59, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
This article covers many different shades of green, not just #00ff00. I'm trying to find a source that will outline the ranges of green on the hex scale, but no luck so far. Anyhow, I think that the infobox should outline ranges, not one specific shade, at least for these main articles. Any idea where this kind of information can be found. Wrad 20:08, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Here is a good ref for this http://www.olympusmicro.com/primer/lightandcolor/humanvisionintro.html . I'm not too confident in my ability to summarize the relevant points, though. Wrad 04:24, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Object-- spring green is at 150 degrees on the HSV color wheel and green is at 120 degrees. They are separate and distinct colors as different as red and orange or as orange and yellow (those colors are also 30 degress from each other). Spring green is a very important color because it is one of the 12 basic colors of the HSV color wheel at 30 degree intervals from each other (the 12 colors are: red, orange, yellow, chartreuse, green, spring green, cyan, azure, blue, violet, magenta, and rose), and therefore spring green should remain in its own article since it is one of the 12 colors and is therefore a color of notable significance in its own right. There are also HSL Color Charts for calculating rough ballpark figures for the hsv (hsl) values for any color. The charts are halfway down the website. There are 12 charts, one for each of the 12 colors: W3C TR CSS3 Color Module, HTML4 color keywords HSL Color Charts: Keraunos 10:01, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Besides, the article on green is so long there is no room for any more colors. Keraunos
Keraunos, just as an aside, could you not mark brand new discussion comments as "minor edits"? Thanks. :) -- jacobolus (t) 10:56, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Green and computing is a well-established relationship in popular culture. Text on old-fashioned computers being a glowing green colour has long been the stereotype in fiction and the media; I guess that idea comes from the early Commodore systems, like the TRS 80's. Anyway, the relationship between the colour and computing is clear to anyone who's seen the Matrix movies, where copious amounts of green were used in a huge number of scenes to remind the viewers how the series was about a virtual computer reality. I'm also pretty sure scenes in movies at night with a character at a computer usually have the room bathed in green. I don't really have the expertise to write about the subject, but if anyone can think of a more accurate and eloquent description of the correlation and could add something to the article, that would be much appreciated. VolatileChemical 00:32, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
How about that! I'm sure I'll have a bit more research to do in the lower sections, but it sure does feel good to have things verified. Wrad ( talk) 22:13, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Why was another infobox added? Last I knew, we seemed to have agreed not to list shades, and were debating the worth of an infobox altogether. Wrad 19:15, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Green | |
---|---|
Spectral coordinates | |
Wavelength | 520–570 nm |
Frequency | ??? THz |
Common connotations | |
sickness, health, growth, hope, nature, youth, Islam, and envy | |
Color coordinates | |
Hex triplet | #008000 |
sRGBB ( r, g, b) | (0, 128, 0) |
HSV ( h, s, v) | (120°, 100%, 50%) |
CIELChuv ( L, C, h) | (46, 72, 128°) |
Source | HTML/CSS [1] |
B: Normalized to [0–255] (byte) |
I added the second info box because the only authoritative source we have for color numbers, the HTML/X11 specs, show green as 008000 and lime as 00FF00; both are important prototypical greens, in my opinion, one for the name and one for the value. I'd be OK doing it some other way, but since I just had reverted someone changing to an unsourced definition, this was intended to forestall such changes. Dicklyon 23:10, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
This is a beautiful piece of work, but it still needs work in one section with respect to the good article criteria.
Popped into a few other articles on various colors - red, black, white, yellow. This article is so very, very well written in comparison. Thank you for the wonderful work! SriMesh | talk 02:47, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
SriMesh | talk 02:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Should something be done with this list? Chlorophyll is mentioned now in the new prose in the minerals section. Quinoline Yellow, a limish yellow, also known as E104 and FD&C Yellow No 10 seems to be baned in many places recently, especially with concerns on the effects of hyperactivity in children. Green S, E142 also seems to be prohibited in many countries apparently for similar reasons as E104. PaleAqua ( talk) 05:40, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Growth needs disambig. Randomblue ( talk) 19:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC) Quinoline Yellow as well Randomblue ( talk) 19:50, 10 December 2007 (UTC)