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«Բարիքի Արքայություն» Թագավորական Արվեսի Գիտությունը' "Թ9" Թագը, Համամարդկային Գիտակցության Գագաթնակետն է ԳԱԳ !!!!!!!!! GAGIK MATEVOSI MATEVOSYAN ARM EMPIRE ® Джрвеж относится к тем местам, где сюрпризы преподносит не только гений человека, но и природа. Закавказье - один из центров происхождения культурных растений, и в горах вокруг Джрвежа до сих пор встречаются дикорастущие предки культурной пшеницы. Среди густой травы, окаймляющей древние крепостные стены, срываем несколько неприметных колосков - это та самая пшеница-прародительница (Triticum vulgaris), которая дала начало сотням сортов, возделываемых ныне. В этих местах работал академик Н. И. Вавилов, собирая свою знаменитую коллекцию культурных растений, хранящуюся в Институте растениеводства в Санкт-Петербурге.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.193.152.224 ( talk • contribs) 19:38, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
I have removed this image from the page: [1]. The description "Boundaries of the Greater Armenia as referred in 1919 by Armenian nationalists" is both misleading and POV, as well as being off-topic for this article. The map is actually titled "United Armenia" and there is no reference or reasoning given to attribute it to "Armenian nationalists". I doubt the validity of placing such images in what is a disambiguation page, especially since the same image is not in the Greater Armenia (political concept) article it purports to represent. Meowy 01:49, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
The usage of Greater Armenia ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, see talk:Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity) -- 70.24.244.51 ( talk) 07:48, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
There was a discussion (see the above message from... November... 10 years ago!) to keep Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity), also known as Greater Armenia, instead of renaming it to Greater Armenia (see Talk:Kingdom_of_Armenia_(antiquity)#Requested_move_2). Users agreed that Greater Armenia was more common for the irredentist concept and that Kingdom of Armenia should be the main article. And yet today we have two articles for what I understand is the same thing. The other article is quite developed while this one is an unsourced stub with just two references and no infobox. Should we make Greater Armenia a disambiguation page mentioning Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity) (aka the Kingdom of Greater Armenia) and United Armenia ("Greater Armenia" as a political concept)? a455bcd9 (Antoine) ( talk) 08:25, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
also known as Greater Armenia or Great Armenia). Are you talking about that article? a455bcd9 (Antoine) ( talk) 16:03, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
@
NmWTfs85lXusaybq: what are you doing? Why "
A455bcd9 isn't eligible for closing the merge proposal themselves"?
WP:MERGECLOSE: Any user, including the user who first proposed the merge, may close the discussion and move forward with the merge if enough time (normally one week or more) has elapsed and there has been no discussion or if there is unanimous consent to merge.
@
P Aculeius recommended I merge.
And why did you write "which is clear against consensus" when there are 2 opposes (Avrand6 & KhndzorUtogh: who did not dare to answer or provide more details for their non sensical answer) vs 4 supports (P Aculeius, Caeciliusinhorto, Rager7 [changed their mind after discussion] + me)?! a455bcd9 (Antoine) ( talk) 08:45, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
The result of this discussion was do not merge.Non-sense. a455bcd9 (Antoine) ( talk) 08:47, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
@ NmWTfs85lXusaybq: I reverted your edit that you justified "restored for merge proposal". I'll assume good faith from you: you were mistaken and this is unrelated to the merge proposal. These are just improvement of the content of the article (removing unsourced content + content that failed verifiability + expanding sources + c/e to match what the cited RS said). Whatever the final outcome of the above discussion is, this content can stay here.
If you have issues with the content of this article (and not the merge procedure), please discuss here. a455bcd9 (Antoine) ( talk) 12:29, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
An edit has presumed consensus until it is disputed or reverted.( WP:IMPLICITCONSENSUS). So unless you explain here why you dispute the content of my edits, please self-revert. a455bcd9 (Antoine) ( talk) 13:27, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Should we make Greater Armenia a disambiguation page mentioning Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity) (aka the Kingdom of Greater Armenia) and United Armenia ("Greater Armenia" as a political concept)?] or keep as it is). I'm just editing this article. Justify your reasons for content removal or stop your disruption. a455bcd9 (Antoine) ( talk) 14:34, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Greater Armenia (Armenian: Մեծ Հայք, romanized: Mets Hayk) is the name given to the Armenian state that emerged in the Armenian Highlands during the reign of King Artaxias I at the turn of the 2nd century BC. The term was used to refer principally to the fifteen provinces that made up Armenian kingdoms throughout the classical, late antique, and medieval periods by contemporary Armenian and non-Armenian authors alike.It only says the version I added: "is the region made of the 15 provinces of the kingdom of Armenia: Upper Armenia, Fourth Armenia, Aghznik, Turuberan, Mokk, Korjaik, Parskahayk, Vaspurakan, Syunik, Artsakh, Paytakaran, Utik, Gugark, Tayk, and Ayrarat.[2] Greater Armenia was separated from Lesser Armenia (Pok'r Hayk′, Latin: Armenia Minor) by the Euphrates.[2] Lesser Armenia was never part of the Kingdom of Greater Armenia."
Greater Armenia [...] is the name given to the Armenian state that emerged in the Armenian Highlands during the reign of King Artaxias I at the turn of the 2nd century BC. The term was used to refer principally to the fifteen provinces that made up Armenian kingdoms throughout the classical, late antique, and medieval periods by contemporary Armenian and non-Armenian authors alike.
Greater Armenia [...] is the region made of the 15 provinces of the kingdom of Armenia: Upper Armenia, Fourth Armenia, Aghznik, Turuberan, Mokk, Korjaik, Parskahayk, Vaspurakan, Syunik, Artsakh, Paytakaran, Utik, Gugark, Tayk, and Ayrarat.[2] Greater Armenia was separated from Lesser Armenia (Pok'r Hayk′, Latin: Armenia Minor) by the Euphrates.[2] Lesser Armenia was never part of the Kingdom of Greater Armenia.
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redirect that targets the page: • Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity) Because this page is not frequently watched, present and future discussions, edit requests and requested moves should take place at: • Talk:Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity) |
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«Բարիքի Արքայություն» Թագավորական Արվեսի Գիտությունը' "Թ9" Թագը, Համամարդկային Գիտակցության Գագաթնակետն է ԳԱԳ !!!!!!!!! GAGIK MATEVOSI MATEVOSYAN ARM EMPIRE ® Джрвеж относится к тем местам, где сюрпризы преподносит не только гений человека, но и природа. Закавказье - один из центров происхождения культурных растений, и в горах вокруг Джрвежа до сих пор встречаются дикорастущие предки культурной пшеницы. Среди густой травы, окаймляющей древние крепостные стены, срываем несколько неприметных колосков - это та самая пшеница-прародительница (Triticum vulgaris), которая дала начало сотням сортов, возделываемых ныне. В этих местах работал академик Н. И. Вавилов, собирая свою знаменитую коллекцию культурных растений, хранящуюся в Институте растениеводства в Санкт-Петербурге.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.193.152.224 ( talk • contribs) 19:38, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
I have removed this image from the page: [1]. The description "Boundaries of the Greater Armenia as referred in 1919 by Armenian nationalists" is both misleading and POV, as well as being off-topic for this article. The map is actually titled "United Armenia" and there is no reference or reasoning given to attribute it to "Armenian nationalists". I doubt the validity of placing such images in what is a disambiguation page, especially since the same image is not in the Greater Armenia (political concept) article it purports to represent. Meowy 01:49, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
The usage of Greater Armenia ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, see talk:Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity) -- 70.24.244.51 ( talk) 07:48, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
There was a discussion (see the above message from... November... 10 years ago!) to keep Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity), also known as Greater Armenia, instead of renaming it to Greater Armenia (see Talk:Kingdom_of_Armenia_(antiquity)#Requested_move_2). Users agreed that Greater Armenia was more common for the irredentist concept and that Kingdom of Armenia should be the main article. And yet today we have two articles for what I understand is the same thing. The other article is quite developed while this one is an unsourced stub with just two references and no infobox. Should we make Greater Armenia a disambiguation page mentioning Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity) (aka the Kingdom of Greater Armenia) and United Armenia ("Greater Armenia" as a political concept)? a455bcd9 (Antoine) ( talk) 08:25, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
also known as Greater Armenia or Great Armenia). Are you talking about that article? a455bcd9 (Antoine) ( talk) 16:03, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
@
NmWTfs85lXusaybq: what are you doing? Why "
A455bcd9 isn't eligible for closing the merge proposal themselves"?
WP:MERGECLOSE: Any user, including the user who first proposed the merge, may close the discussion and move forward with the merge if enough time (normally one week or more) has elapsed and there has been no discussion or if there is unanimous consent to merge.
@
P Aculeius recommended I merge.
And why did you write "which is clear against consensus" when there are 2 opposes (Avrand6 & KhndzorUtogh: who did not dare to answer or provide more details for their non sensical answer) vs 4 supports (P Aculeius, Caeciliusinhorto, Rager7 [changed their mind after discussion] + me)?! a455bcd9 (Antoine) ( talk) 08:45, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
The result of this discussion was do not merge.Non-sense. a455bcd9 (Antoine) ( talk) 08:47, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
@ NmWTfs85lXusaybq: I reverted your edit that you justified "restored for merge proposal". I'll assume good faith from you: you were mistaken and this is unrelated to the merge proposal. These are just improvement of the content of the article (removing unsourced content + content that failed verifiability + expanding sources + c/e to match what the cited RS said). Whatever the final outcome of the above discussion is, this content can stay here.
If you have issues with the content of this article (and not the merge procedure), please discuss here. a455bcd9 (Antoine) ( talk) 12:29, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
An edit has presumed consensus until it is disputed or reverted.( WP:IMPLICITCONSENSUS). So unless you explain here why you dispute the content of my edits, please self-revert. a455bcd9 (Antoine) ( talk) 13:27, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Should we make Greater Armenia a disambiguation page mentioning Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity) (aka the Kingdom of Greater Armenia) and United Armenia ("Greater Armenia" as a political concept)?] or keep as it is). I'm just editing this article. Justify your reasons for content removal or stop your disruption. a455bcd9 (Antoine) ( talk) 14:34, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Greater Armenia (Armenian: Մեծ Հայք, romanized: Mets Hayk) is the name given to the Armenian state that emerged in the Armenian Highlands during the reign of King Artaxias I at the turn of the 2nd century BC. The term was used to refer principally to the fifteen provinces that made up Armenian kingdoms throughout the classical, late antique, and medieval periods by contemporary Armenian and non-Armenian authors alike.It only says the version I added: "is the region made of the 15 provinces of the kingdom of Armenia: Upper Armenia, Fourth Armenia, Aghznik, Turuberan, Mokk, Korjaik, Parskahayk, Vaspurakan, Syunik, Artsakh, Paytakaran, Utik, Gugark, Tayk, and Ayrarat.[2] Greater Armenia was separated from Lesser Armenia (Pok'r Hayk′, Latin: Armenia Minor) by the Euphrates.[2] Lesser Armenia was never part of the Kingdom of Greater Armenia."
Greater Armenia [...] is the name given to the Armenian state that emerged in the Armenian Highlands during the reign of King Artaxias I at the turn of the 2nd century BC. The term was used to refer principally to the fifteen provinces that made up Armenian kingdoms throughout the classical, late antique, and medieval periods by contemporary Armenian and non-Armenian authors alike.
Greater Armenia [...] is the region made of the 15 provinces of the kingdom of Armenia: Upper Armenia, Fourth Armenia, Aghznik, Turuberan, Mokk, Korjaik, Parskahayk, Vaspurakan, Syunik, Artsakh, Paytakaran, Utik, Gugark, Tayk, and Ayrarat.[2] Greater Armenia was separated from Lesser Armenia (Pok'r Hayk′, Latin: Armenia Minor) by the Euphrates.[2] Lesser Armenia was never part of the Kingdom of Greater Armenia.