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It would be nice if someone could get hold of one of those Punch cartoons from the period to illustrate this article - I've seen a few in the past that would do the job - does anyone know how one could get hold of one, and what the copywrite status would be? Mammal4 22:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
The Great Stink of 1858 contributes to plot development in Jill Paton Walsh's Thrones, Dominations (1998). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.81.124.61 ( talk) 01:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
@ SchroCat: Do you have a history with Unbuttered Parsnip? I mean, what is this shit? Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 05:41, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Shit other than yours. -- Unbuttered parsnip ( talk) mytime= Fri 13:48, wikitime= 05:48, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
... and one is not even allowed to respond on this talk page --
Unbuttered parsnip, There are a few problems with your edit, which is why it was largely but only partially reverted:
"Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but if helpful for readers, links may be repeated ... at the first occurrence after the lead". The "lead + first use" is common across the majority of articles, I think, and the use here is well within that guideline.
If you wish to discuss this further I am happy to do so, but not if you are just trying to force your preferred version onto the article, regardless of the guidelines provided by the MoS. – SchroCat ( talk) 09:15, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
I made a ... well, what it says. I'm in the middle of an experiment (no problems so far) of making sure that everything in TFA text is reflected in the lead ... if not, then I tweak one or the other. The TFA for this one is Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 23, 2015. Feel free to revert or change what I did, I can always tweak the TFA text instead. - Dank ( push to talk) 13:38, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
SchroChat, I'd appreciate it if you'd be honest enough to simply revert my changes so I get an alert, instead of stealthily reverting them with misleading edit summaries like "tweak"... ;P
Once again I don't understand why you think the extra words are necessary. For example, why is "his actions mean he probably saved more lives than any other Victorian official" better than "His actions probably saved more lives than any other Victorian official"? What is the difference other than extra words? I won't touch the article again, but I urge you and other editors to take another look and ask yourself if the extra words are really helping the reader.
My changes aren't major and the article's obviously in good shape, so nice work. Popcornduff ( talk)
I don't understand this. Two senior editors whom I respect are criticizing me, and all I'm doing is trying to respectfully agree that a certain edit summary would have been more courteous if it had acknowledged it was a reversion.
Maybe I'm missing some history, maybe valuable editors like you have had the book thrown at them in the past for acknowledging they might have done something slightly unwelcoming once and promising to do better in future. Whatever's going on here, I hope SchroCat can find enough humility and AGF someday to reread this discussion and take my and PD's words as sincere, respectful suggestions rather than whining, obnoxious idiocy. Thanks again for the great article. FourViolas ( talk) 12:37, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
"Accusing other editors of owning the article may appear aggressive, and could be perceived as a personal attack". I suggest you take that on board before you needlessly and incorrectly accuse people of such a thing again. When two people turn up to accuse me of dishonesty and then of ownership when I there is none, then I, like most people, are always going to end up being slightly bloody testy in my responses. I did not think the original edit was in the best interets of the article. That's why it went back to the version that a number of people at PR and FAC thought was passable. If I was trying to OWN this, I would have reverted all the edits that were made: I did not, and those edits that improved the article remain in place. - SchroCat ( talk) 14:27, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
"immediately disregarding"someone's good-faith efforts looks possessive as an isolated action, but as long as it's not representative of your typical interactions I'm happy to activate my neck winch and drop the issue, along with PopcornDuff's minor stylistic proposals.
I see an editor keeps changing "bad" to "horrendous". The latter is a flabby word. It is true that it is recorded in the OED as occasionally used from 1661, but "bad" is a strong word and "horrendous" is not. Let us stick to Plain Words. Tim riley talk 21:42, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
This is a great article, many thanks to all the authors and especially SchroCat for a great read. However, when I got to the end and scrolled back up I was surprised to reread the title. The article is about the events surrounding the initial construction of the modern London sewer system, of which the Great Stink was only the catchiest and the last straw. Without opening a formal move discussion, does anyone want to kick around alternative titles, convince me that "Great Stink" is a fair description of the article, or consider spinning the article into "Great Stink" and "History of London sewer construction"? FourViolas ( talk) 16:12, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
I think that John Snow (yes, that was his name) should also be mentioned. He connected the dots, linked poor sanitation to outbreaks of cholera, fought the miasma theory (miasma is mentioned in the article) and convinced medical and other authorities that much better sanitation was a top priority. He is as much a hero as the builder/designer of the sewage system. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.167.123.37 ( talk) 22:04, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
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The page preview for this page appears to have been vandalized, when you hover over links to this page, the following text appears The Great Stink was an event in the Lounge, NUSU in September 2019 during which something crawled up Hannah Finney's arse and died. Not having much experience with editing Wikipedia, I don't know how to edit the page preview or I would fix this myself so would somebody who does know please fix this? 146.113.104.24 ( talk) 17:16, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
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It would be nice if someone could get hold of one of those Punch cartoons from the period to illustrate this article - I've seen a few in the past that would do the job - does anyone know how one could get hold of one, and what the copywrite status would be? Mammal4 22:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
The Great Stink of 1858 contributes to plot development in Jill Paton Walsh's Thrones, Dominations (1998). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.81.124.61 ( talk) 01:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
@ SchroCat: Do you have a history with Unbuttered Parsnip? I mean, what is this shit? Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 05:41, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Shit other than yours. -- Unbuttered parsnip ( talk) mytime= Fri 13:48, wikitime= 05:48, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
... and one is not even allowed to respond on this talk page --
Unbuttered parsnip, There are a few problems with your edit, which is why it was largely but only partially reverted:
"Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but if helpful for readers, links may be repeated ... at the first occurrence after the lead". The "lead + first use" is common across the majority of articles, I think, and the use here is well within that guideline.
If you wish to discuss this further I am happy to do so, but not if you are just trying to force your preferred version onto the article, regardless of the guidelines provided by the MoS. – SchroCat ( talk) 09:15, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
I made a ... well, what it says. I'm in the middle of an experiment (no problems so far) of making sure that everything in TFA text is reflected in the lead ... if not, then I tweak one or the other. The TFA for this one is Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 23, 2015. Feel free to revert or change what I did, I can always tweak the TFA text instead. - Dank ( push to talk) 13:38, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
SchroChat, I'd appreciate it if you'd be honest enough to simply revert my changes so I get an alert, instead of stealthily reverting them with misleading edit summaries like "tweak"... ;P
Once again I don't understand why you think the extra words are necessary. For example, why is "his actions mean he probably saved more lives than any other Victorian official" better than "His actions probably saved more lives than any other Victorian official"? What is the difference other than extra words? I won't touch the article again, but I urge you and other editors to take another look and ask yourself if the extra words are really helping the reader.
My changes aren't major and the article's obviously in good shape, so nice work. Popcornduff ( talk)
I don't understand this. Two senior editors whom I respect are criticizing me, and all I'm doing is trying to respectfully agree that a certain edit summary would have been more courteous if it had acknowledged it was a reversion.
Maybe I'm missing some history, maybe valuable editors like you have had the book thrown at them in the past for acknowledging they might have done something slightly unwelcoming once and promising to do better in future. Whatever's going on here, I hope SchroCat can find enough humility and AGF someday to reread this discussion and take my and PD's words as sincere, respectful suggestions rather than whining, obnoxious idiocy. Thanks again for the great article. FourViolas ( talk) 12:37, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
"Accusing other editors of owning the article may appear aggressive, and could be perceived as a personal attack". I suggest you take that on board before you needlessly and incorrectly accuse people of such a thing again. When two people turn up to accuse me of dishonesty and then of ownership when I there is none, then I, like most people, are always going to end up being slightly bloody testy in my responses. I did not think the original edit was in the best interets of the article. That's why it went back to the version that a number of people at PR and FAC thought was passable. If I was trying to OWN this, I would have reverted all the edits that were made: I did not, and those edits that improved the article remain in place. - SchroCat ( talk) 14:27, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
"immediately disregarding"someone's good-faith efforts looks possessive as an isolated action, but as long as it's not representative of your typical interactions I'm happy to activate my neck winch and drop the issue, along with PopcornDuff's minor stylistic proposals.
I see an editor keeps changing "bad" to "horrendous". The latter is a flabby word. It is true that it is recorded in the OED as occasionally used from 1661, but "bad" is a strong word and "horrendous" is not. Let us stick to Plain Words. Tim riley talk 21:42, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
This is a great article, many thanks to all the authors and especially SchroCat for a great read. However, when I got to the end and scrolled back up I was surprised to reread the title. The article is about the events surrounding the initial construction of the modern London sewer system, of which the Great Stink was only the catchiest and the last straw. Without opening a formal move discussion, does anyone want to kick around alternative titles, convince me that "Great Stink" is a fair description of the article, or consider spinning the article into "Great Stink" and "History of London sewer construction"? FourViolas ( talk) 16:12, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
I think that John Snow (yes, that was his name) should also be mentioned. He connected the dots, linked poor sanitation to outbreaks of cholera, fought the miasma theory (miasma is mentioned in the article) and convinced medical and other authorities that much better sanitation was a top priority. He is as much a hero as the builder/designer of the sewage system. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.167.123.37 ( talk) 22:04, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
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The page preview for this page appears to have been vandalized, when you hover over links to this page, the following text appears The Great Stink was an event in the Lounge, NUSU in September 2019 during which something crawled up Hannah Finney's arse and died. Not having much experience with editing Wikipedia, I don't know how to edit the page preview or I would fix this myself so would somebody who does know please fix this? 146.113.104.24 ( talk) 17:16, 22 September 2019 (UTC)