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This page seems to disagree substantially with the dictionary definition of graupel. Why? Matt Gies 18:39, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
There are in fact three types of precipitation loosely called "graupel"
Carnby 11:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
It kicks like damp sand. That is, if you scuff/kick your shoe through it, it'll leave kindof a spray pattern. Not very scientific, i know, but it graupeled (?) here last winter-- that was the main thing i noticed about it, and when I asked a meteorology student here what on earth that had been, he knew exactly what it was when i described the spray pattern and the tiny ice balls. Cantras ( talk) 17:30, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
The International Cloud Atlas by the World Meteorological Organization distinguishes between small hail and snow pellets, saying that small hail is an intermediate hydrometeor between a snow pellet and a hailstone; i.e. a snow pellet with an ice covering encapsulating it. We must also notice that the term Graupel is not well standardized in English meteorological language: it is used mostly for snow pellets, but in German it may indicate small hail (Frostgraupel), snow pellets (Reifgraupel) and sometimes even snow grains (Schneegriesel). I think Wikipedia should follow international standards (such as those by the WMO) and not national weather services or a single university in Texas.-- Carnby ( talk) 08:54, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
"Not to be confused with Hail or Ice pellets." - Unfortunately it is confused with hail and ice pellets and this such instruction is worthless and insulting. It is not acceptable to reject linguistic traditions because you know everybody else is wrong. The truth here is that there is a collection of common winter precipitation forms that have interchangeable names depending both on english dialect and local use. International standards are the correct basis for formal naming but is not a justification for calling in the Language Police. Please respect Linguistic Diversity. Sir smellybeard ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:56, 10 January 2012 (UTC).
"Graupel is distinct from hail, small hail and ice pellets" Link for "small hail" redirects back to page for graupel, so perhaps not so distinct after all? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.56.80.194 ( talk) 19:37, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Much improved opening paragraph. Well phrased and informative. Sir smellybeard ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:25, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
There is an issue here with the initial summary. It defines "small hail" more than it defines "graupel." Why is there a definition of "small hail" when the lead already establishes the two as different? Why isn't there a definition of graupel?
-- Desire Mercy ( talk) 19:58, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
I noticed that as well. Very circular and confusing, not to mention wrong now that the 2017 International Cloud Atlas states that graupel, small hail, and snow pellets are the same type of precipitation: [3]. I removed the definition of small hail and the incorrect distinctions. Amazing that they stuck around for so many years. 167.131.0.195 ( talk) 17:24, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
I don't think the photo is authentic. Graupel would melt very fast in hands. They even don't stay solid on the ground. -- 2.245.161.247 ( talk) 16:03, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
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I've heard a few people refer to graupel as "sago". Can I add this Cityrailsaints ( talk) 12:30, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Or what is is phrase supposed to mean? "...far below the normal freezing point as long as above the homogeneous nucleation point of water." Idunno271828 ( Talk | contribs) 19:05, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
Conically ablated snow pellets can form when snow pellets fall through a thin wedge of warm air that is above ground level. As with ordinary snow pellets, these tend to fall in shower form, that is to a significant depth. The ones that I saw were about 3/16 to 1/4 inch diameter, with the conical part from near the bottom center to almost the “equator”. It was quite obvious that the conical part was formed by melting because of its glossiness. The accumulation might have been about a half an inch, but it was over a third of a century ago, and I am not very sure about the depth. It could have been more. I was a weather spotter at the time, and I would regularly report anything at all unusual, so I probably reported this. The location was southern McDonough County, Illinois, which is near the juncture of Iowa, Missouri, and Illinois. agb 173.233.167.50 ( talk) 20:31, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
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This page seems to disagree substantially with the dictionary definition of graupel. Why? Matt Gies 18:39, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
There are in fact three types of precipitation loosely called "graupel"
Carnby 11:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
It kicks like damp sand. That is, if you scuff/kick your shoe through it, it'll leave kindof a spray pattern. Not very scientific, i know, but it graupeled (?) here last winter-- that was the main thing i noticed about it, and when I asked a meteorology student here what on earth that had been, he knew exactly what it was when i described the spray pattern and the tiny ice balls. Cantras ( talk) 17:30, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
The International Cloud Atlas by the World Meteorological Organization distinguishes between small hail and snow pellets, saying that small hail is an intermediate hydrometeor between a snow pellet and a hailstone; i.e. a snow pellet with an ice covering encapsulating it. We must also notice that the term Graupel is not well standardized in English meteorological language: it is used mostly for snow pellets, but in German it may indicate small hail (Frostgraupel), snow pellets (Reifgraupel) and sometimes even snow grains (Schneegriesel). I think Wikipedia should follow international standards (such as those by the WMO) and not national weather services or a single university in Texas.-- Carnby ( talk) 08:54, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
"Not to be confused with Hail or Ice pellets." - Unfortunately it is confused with hail and ice pellets and this such instruction is worthless and insulting. It is not acceptable to reject linguistic traditions because you know everybody else is wrong. The truth here is that there is a collection of common winter precipitation forms that have interchangeable names depending both on english dialect and local use. International standards are the correct basis for formal naming but is not a justification for calling in the Language Police. Please respect Linguistic Diversity. Sir smellybeard ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:56, 10 January 2012 (UTC).
"Graupel is distinct from hail, small hail and ice pellets" Link for "small hail" redirects back to page for graupel, so perhaps not so distinct after all? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.56.80.194 ( talk) 19:37, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Much improved opening paragraph. Well phrased and informative. Sir smellybeard ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:25, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
There is an issue here with the initial summary. It defines "small hail" more than it defines "graupel." Why is there a definition of "small hail" when the lead already establishes the two as different? Why isn't there a definition of graupel?
-- Desire Mercy ( talk) 19:58, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
I noticed that as well. Very circular and confusing, not to mention wrong now that the 2017 International Cloud Atlas states that graupel, small hail, and snow pellets are the same type of precipitation: [3]. I removed the definition of small hail and the incorrect distinctions. Amazing that they stuck around for so many years. 167.131.0.195 ( talk) 17:24, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
I don't think the photo is authentic. Graupel would melt very fast in hands. They even don't stay solid on the ground. -- 2.245.161.247 ( talk) 16:03, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
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I've heard a few people refer to graupel as "sago". Can I add this Cityrailsaints ( talk) 12:30, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Or what is is phrase supposed to mean? "...far below the normal freezing point as long as above the homogeneous nucleation point of water." Idunno271828 ( Talk | contribs) 19:05, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
Conically ablated snow pellets can form when snow pellets fall through a thin wedge of warm air that is above ground level. As with ordinary snow pellets, these tend to fall in shower form, that is to a significant depth. The ones that I saw were about 3/16 to 1/4 inch diameter, with the conical part from near the bottom center to almost the “equator”. It was quite obvious that the conical part was formed by melting because of its glossiness. The accumulation might have been about a half an inch, but it was over a third of a century ago, and I am not very sure about the depth. It could have been more. I was a weather spotter at the time, and I would regularly report anything at all unusual, so I probably reported this. The location was southern McDonough County, Illinois, which is near the juncture of Iowa, Missouri, and Illinois. agb 173.233.167.50 ( talk) 20:31, 1 May 2023 (UTC)