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"Even so, it is supposed that video cards will soon need their own power supply, and both together will become a new external device.[12]" Who have decided that tomshardware is good source for wikipedia. The whole statement is just wrong. It is not even expected really. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.139.22.134 ( talk) 17:26, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
I thought that the PCI-E slot can provide 75 watts to a video card, and over that a 6 pin is required. The page implies that the socket can supply 150 watts and a power connecter is used for power past this amount. The citation shows that this is false and correct me if i am wrong this needs to be changed in the article. ( Wikipedi 01:43, 23 June 2007 (UTC))
I think it is a mistake to imply that DDR2 is only used on mother boards. Take a look at newegg.com. There are very nearly as many DDR2 video cards for sale as are DDR3. You should mention that DDR2 is most likely in use in far more video cards at this time than is the newer technology DDR3 and DDR4. In fact, judging from the systems I see for sale and the ones aqauntences buy, I suspect most current users have a shared memory architecture that uses system memory. I will guess that half or more of that memory is DDR, not DDR2. Please don't write from the perspective of an enthusiast.
I thought RADEON was a series of graphics cards not a Manufacturer. Am I wrong? It's in that table.-- 203.100.245.224 09:37, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
No the Manufacturer is ATI —Preceding
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21:28, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I am a spanish wikipedist and after being working on the spanish version I have some contributions to this one. Please, be understanding with my poor English and help me to do it correctly. Thank you. Bedwyr 18:10, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't think this is a source worth linking to. Just adding back the link with the summary "readded link" doesn't help resolve the issue. Superm401 - Talk 02:14, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
The link was to a site with information on how to maximize a video card's performance. It sounds perfectly relevant to me. This is the overclocking link that should be added. Dekard 13:27, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
I put graphics card in there (at the very top) in the 'also know as' bit because someone asked me if a graphics card was the same as a video card and I figure its a common mistake. This makes it overall more useful.
I'd just like to point out that this page has quite a few spelling & grammar errors. I don't have time to fix them all, but somebody should look over this if they've got a minute. Cheezmeister 01:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
This article is very poorly written, someone needs to simply redo the entire thing. This writing style does not fit the quality of Wikipedia —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.171.96.192 ( talk) 20:53, 7 March 2007 (UTC).
-- Root Beers ( talk) 08:25, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Just was looking over this article when I found the following paragraph within the opening lines of the article:
Most of the games of Bantilan Entertainment needs 512 MB Video memory to play their games. Geforce video card released their first 1024 MB Video memory to play the new release MMORPG 3D game of Bantilan Entertainment's Spider Fighting that was first released in Flash Format on Newgrounds.
Why on earth is this so important as to be mentioned in these opening lines?
No stuff on graphics libraries (speaking of that, no definition of "Graphics API" at all), no important, 2D techniques like blitting.
Seems to be written by a modern gamer with tunnel vision.
Please help improve. -- Skypher 14:06, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Is this expression wrong? I'm not english native, so, maybe is it anything of "bad taste" to write it on account of being French? Is "reason for existence" the usual? I'd like learn about that. Thank you. Bedwyr 21:41, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
This article needs a hell of a lot of work. When was the first graphics/video card? In the 60s or in 1981? Do games console have video cards or not? Is the XGA a card or loose standard? Really needs to start with a clear definition. Something along the lines of a separate computer system component held on a card, plugging into a bus, which (usually) holds video chipset, RAMDAC (in pre-digital days), video memory. If you skip out the 'card' bit, then any computer system that outputs to a screen has a video component, from way back in the 60s, the early computer consoles of the 70s (PONG!), the Apple I (notable for being the first home computer with a VPU), the VIC20, PET, TRS-80, etc...
Pretty sure that XGA was a 'made-up' term to follow in the path of CGA, EGA, VGA, SVGA. Come to it, I think SVGA was made-up, too. And these cards had a whole bunch of variations is speed, number of colours, amount of RAM etc. Does anyone here even remember ISA? Or when 256 colours was heaps for a PC.
If you want to talk about cards, then you are reduced to systems which use a plug in bus and cards, from early minicomputers through to delights as the Apple II, Amiga 2000, TRS-80 (some models), IBM PC, Mac II, SUN machines, digital VAX, SGi boxen... wow, lot of history.
Regarding the video/graphics terminology issue, I recall on olden days computers used in video editing that a graphics card was usually a card designed for output to a monitor, and a video card was a card used for outputting/processing TV/Video. These days, they are usually used interchangably.
And is 'analogical' really the word that we are looking for?
58.107.79.77 04:47, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Is the link titled "Some graphics techniques" really relevant? It links to some software download, not to information on graphics cards. Danielgrad 05:43, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
I think the analog output connector referred to as SVGA should actually be called d-sub. SVGA is the protocol, not the connector, right?
Computer grpahics cards allow you to watch ducks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.46.108.136 ( talk) 09:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
whats the most amount of memory you can get on a AGP video card? is it 512mb or 1gb or something else? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pauldonald86 ( talk • contribs) 05:09, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure but my pc's graphic card only has 286 MB (only horrible part of the pc) and its only a year old its brand is Intel(R) G33/G31 Express Chipset Gamily. Pyrolord777 ( talk) 00:18, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
No mention of 32-bit O/S memory limitations with shared vs discrete cards. Discrete cards require the size of their dedicated memory out of the maximum addressable 4G area of the 32-bit OS & CPU. Thus a 2G card would cause a 4G system to become a 2G addressable system with 2G addressable to video. 198.176.189.201 ( talk) 17:17, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Added other bus topologies with video cards that fit. Matrox Makes PCI-X video, while VESA, ISA, and MCA are older forgotten about interfaces that had video cards for their bus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Root Beers ( talk • contribs) 08:26, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
There are a lot of extremely out of date things written in this article's introduction section. For instance, "Video cards are not used exclusively in IBM type PCs" IBM type PCs? Are those the devices people used to play vinyl records on? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.101.158.67 ( talk) 09:37, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
It should be something like "Video cards have been used to attach computers to displays since the introduction of displays." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.8.154.119 ( talk) 23:27, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
This article needs a section that clearly states how the average video card functions. 09:33, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
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I've posted a cleanup notice until the 'other types of connections' section of this article is improved. Variations in spelling, capitalization, formatting and belief in what is and isn't a proper type of image have damaged the quality of this article. It shouldn't take long to fix. 24.60.183.239 ( talk) 21:25, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Some dufus pointed out that the broken infobox on the article by replacing the first heading in the article with something like, "THIS INFOBOX = FAIL". I cleaned up the obnoxious edit, but I don't know how to fix infoboxes. 68.95.127.111 ( talk) 18:22, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Were 3D graphic cards influenced by OpenGL of Indigo workstations? According to my humble knowledge they were quite early in using a dedicated processor processing 3D graphics. Is it correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.74.100.134 ( talk) 10:56, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Suggestion: Merge with Graphics Processing Unit? Photographerguy ( talk) 04:21, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I assume there are a number of benefits (and limitations) to having a separate video card over an integrated GPU. I think it would be useful for the article to cover these advantages and disadvantages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.97.133.243 ( talk) 15:06, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Nvidia cards have unlinked shader and core clocks. AMD have linked ones. Since this article only talked about core clock. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.201.119.209 ( talk) 21:51, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Inventor not mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.227.53.176 ( talk) 13:04, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
I looked into this document for information, some of it was helpful.
I was trying to understand the model aircraft "Real Flight" simulator requirement for a 3D Acclerated Video (card) with from 32 MB (usable)to 512 (optimal) MB Dedicated Video Memory.
Most Video Store employees apparently have never heard that a mechanical accessory (a "Dedicated Video Card Memory"-- mechanical device) must be pruchased and inserted into older computers-see photo in this article--to accomodate this flight simulator. The termimology "Video Card" or "3D Acclerated Video" requirement is not understood by some sales personnel.
Salesmen seem to think that modern computers with lots of RAM, ROM, 64 Bit and modern processors do not need a video card. I have not yet found the answer to this question so I won't buy (and they won't sell) until I know.
sewardowen@wi.rr.net —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.133.221.126 ( talk) 19:29, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
In the whole article, there isn't any mention of video cards with two GPU's. This seems like a negligent and glaring omission. Irazmus ( talk) 04:43, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
The maximum length for these kind of card should be mentioned in the Size chapter, because there are already vague informations in it that some cards are longer than 10 inches. For PCi cards the amximum lenght is 312mm/12.283 inches (see Conventional_PCI#Full-size_card) but I assume that it is the same for AGP and PCIe. ISA-cards can be a little longer, but they are of course obsolete. There are examples of PCIe cars with over 12", the most resent probably is the AMD Radeon HD 5970. [3] [4] This card is still available, as you can see e.g. here.-- MrBurns ( talk) 05:08, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
Article should also include section about purpose of numerous pins some graphic cards have on their boards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.93.97.103 ( talk) 05:40, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
I can't find any mention of the distinction between Discrete and Integrated graphics. Shouldn't there be a sentence that explains the difference? Jaredbeck ( talk) 00:54, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
I have included a sentence to address that, and have tried to expand and update the article. It still needs work though. Tetsuo ( talk) 01:37, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
Added a small history section. That's important to explain why there are video cards in the first place, and why they are are connected to the PCs.-- 4throck ( talk) 08:08, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
First choose the best cable as first choice High-Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI), as a second choice Digital Visual Interface (DVI) , as a last option Video Graphics Array (VGA).
After that replace the video card program video monitor for gpu in adjusting size and position of the workspace in configuration to scale without scale after full screen, then check the box to replace the scaling mode set by games and programs. User:R. Portela F. 02:02, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
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"Even so, it is supposed that video cards will soon need their own power supply, and both together will become a new external device.[12]" Who have decided that tomshardware is good source for wikipedia. The whole statement is just wrong. It is not even expected really. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.139.22.134 ( talk) 17:26, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
I thought that the PCI-E slot can provide 75 watts to a video card, and over that a 6 pin is required. The page implies that the socket can supply 150 watts and a power connecter is used for power past this amount. The citation shows that this is false and correct me if i am wrong this needs to be changed in the article. ( Wikipedi 01:43, 23 June 2007 (UTC))
I think it is a mistake to imply that DDR2 is only used on mother boards. Take a look at newegg.com. There are very nearly as many DDR2 video cards for sale as are DDR3. You should mention that DDR2 is most likely in use in far more video cards at this time than is the newer technology DDR3 and DDR4. In fact, judging from the systems I see for sale and the ones aqauntences buy, I suspect most current users have a shared memory architecture that uses system memory. I will guess that half or more of that memory is DDR, not DDR2. Please don't write from the perspective of an enthusiast.
I thought RADEON was a series of graphics cards not a Manufacturer. Am I wrong? It's in that table.-- 203.100.245.224 09:37, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
No the Manufacturer is ATI —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
82.26.123.201 (
talk)
21:28, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I am a spanish wikipedist and after being working on the spanish version I have some contributions to this one. Please, be understanding with my poor English and help me to do it correctly. Thank you. Bedwyr 18:10, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't think this is a source worth linking to. Just adding back the link with the summary "readded link" doesn't help resolve the issue. Superm401 - Talk 02:14, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
The link was to a site with information on how to maximize a video card's performance. It sounds perfectly relevant to me. This is the overclocking link that should be added. Dekard 13:27, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
I put graphics card in there (at the very top) in the 'also know as' bit because someone asked me if a graphics card was the same as a video card and I figure its a common mistake. This makes it overall more useful.
I'd just like to point out that this page has quite a few spelling & grammar errors. I don't have time to fix them all, but somebody should look over this if they've got a minute. Cheezmeister 01:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
This article is very poorly written, someone needs to simply redo the entire thing. This writing style does not fit the quality of Wikipedia —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.171.96.192 ( talk) 20:53, 7 March 2007 (UTC).
-- Root Beers ( talk) 08:25, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Just was looking over this article when I found the following paragraph within the opening lines of the article:
Most of the games of Bantilan Entertainment needs 512 MB Video memory to play their games. Geforce video card released their first 1024 MB Video memory to play the new release MMORPG 3D game of Bantilan Entertainment's Spider Fighting that was first released in Flash Format on Newgrounds.
Why on earth is this so important as to be mentioned in these opening lines?
No stuff on graphics libraries (speaking of that, no definition of "Graphics API" at all), no important, 2D techniques like blitting.
Seems to be written by a modern gamer with tunnel vision.
Please help improve. -- Skypher 14:06, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Is this expression wrong? I'm not english native, so, maybe is it anything of "bad taste" to write it on account of being French? Is "reason for existence" the usual? I'd like learn about that. Thank you. Bedwyr 21:41, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
This article needs a hell of a lot of work. When was the first graphics/video card? In the 60s or in 1981? Do games console have video cards or not? Is the XGA a card or loose standard? Really needs to start with a clear definition. Something along the lines of a separate computer system component held on a card, plugging into a bus, which (usually) holds video chipset, RAMDAC (in pre-digital days), video memory. If you skip out the 'card' bit, then any computer system that outputs to a screen has a video component, from way back in the 60s, the early computer consoles of the 70s (PONG!), the Apple I (notable for being the first home computer with a VPU), the VIC20, PET, TRS-80, etc...
Pretty sure that XGA was a 'made-up' term to follow in the path of CGA, EGA, VGA, SVGA. Come to it, I think SVGA was made-up, too. And these cards had a whole bunch of variations is speed, number of colours, amount of RAM etc. Does anyone here even remember ISA? Or when 256 colours was heaps for a PC.
If you want to talk about cards, then you are reduced to systems which use a plug in bus and cards, from early minicomputers through to delights as the Apple II, Amiga 2000, TRS-80 (some models), IBM PC, Mac II, SUN machines, digital VAX, SGi boxen... wow, lot of history.
Regarding the video/graphics terminology issue, I recall on olden days computers used in video editing that a graphics card was usually a card designed for output to a monitor, and a video card was a card used for outputting/processing TV/Video. These days, they are usually used interchangably.
And is 'analogical' really the word that we are looking for?
58.107.79.77 04:47, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Is the link titled "Some graphics techniques" really relevant? It links to some software download, not to information on graphics cards. Danielgrad 05:43, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
I think the analog output connector referred to as SVGA should actually be called d-sub. SVGA is the protocol, not the connector, right?
Computer grpahics cards allow you to watch ducks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.46.108.136 ( talk) 09:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
whats the most amount of memory you can get on a AGP video card? is it 512mb or 1gb or something else? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pauldonald86 ( talk • contribs) 05:09, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure but my pc's graphic card only has 286 MB (only horrible part of the pc) and its only a year old its brand is Intel(R) G33/G31 Express Chipset Gamily. Pyrolord777 ( talk) 00:18, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
No mention of 32-bit O/S memory limitations with shared vs discrete cards. Discrete cards require the size of their dedicated memory out of the maximum addressable 4G area of the 32-bit OS & CPU. Thus a 2G card would cause a 4G system to become a 2G addressable system with 2G addressable to video. 198.176.189.201 ( talk) 17:17, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Added other bus topologies with video cards that fit. Matrox Makes PCI-X video, while VESA, ISA, and MCA are older forgotten about interfaces that had video cards for their bus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Root Beers ( talk • contribs) 08:26, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
There are a lot of extremely out of date things written in this article's introduction section. For instance, "Video cards are not used exclusively in IBM type PCs" IBM type PCs? Are those the devices people used to play vinyl records on? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.101.158.67 ( talk) 09:37, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
It should be something like "Video cards have been used to attach computers to displays since the introduction of displays." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.8.154.119 ( talk) 23:27, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
This article needs a section that clearly states how the average video card functions. 09:33, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
The image Image:DisplayPort source-side connector pinout.png is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check
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I've posted a cleanup notice until the 'other types of connections' section of this article is improved. Variations in spelling, capitalization, formatting and belief in what is and isn't a proper type of image have damaged the quality of this article. It shouldn't take long to fix. 24.60.183.239 ( talk) 21:25, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Some dufus pointed out that the broken infobox on the article by replacing the first heading in the article with something like, "THIS INFOBOX = FAIL". I cleaned up the obnoxious edit, but I don't know how to fix infoboxes. 68.95.127.111 ( talk) 18:22, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Were 3D graphic cards influenced by OpenGL of Indigo workstations? According to my humble knowledge they were quite early in using a dedicated processor processing 3D graphics. Is it correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.74.100.134 ( talk) 10:56, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Suggestion: Merge with Graphics Processing Unit? Photographerguy ( talk) 04:21, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I assume there are a number of benefits (and limitations) to having a separate video card over an integrated GPU. I think it would be useful for the article to cover these advantages and disadvantages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.97.133.243 ( talk) 15:06, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Nvidia cards have unlinked shader and core clocks. AMD have linked ones. Since this article only talked about core clock. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.201.119.209 ( talk) 21:51, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Inventor not mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.227.53.176 ( talk) 13:04, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
I looked into this document for information, some of it was helpful.
I was trying to understand the model aircraft "Real Flight" simulator requirement for a 3D Acclerated Video (card) with from 32 MB (usable)to 512 (optimal) MB Dedicated Video Memory.
Most Video Store employees apparently have never heard that a mechanical accessory (a "Dedicated Video Card Memory"-- mechanical device) must be pruchased and inserted into older computers-see photo in this article--to accomodate this flight simulator. The termimology "Video Card" or "3D Acclerated Video" requirement is not understood by some sales personnel.
Salesmen seem to think that modern computers with lots of RAM, ROM, 64 Bit and modern processors do not need a video card. I have not yet found the answer to this question so I won't buy (and they won't sell) until I know.
sewardowen@wi.rr.net —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.133.221.126 ( talk) 19:29, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
In the whole article, there isn't any mention of video cards with two GPU's. This seems like a negligent and glaring omission. Irazmus ( talk) 04:43, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
The maximum length for these kind of card should be mentioned in the Size chapter, because there are already vague informations in it that some cards are longer than 10 inches. For PCi cards the amximum lenght is 312mm/12.283 inches (see Conventional_PCI#Full-size_card) but I assume that it is the same for AGP and PCIe. ISA-cards can be a little longer, but they are of course obsolete. There are examples of PCIe cars with over 12", the most resent probably is the AMD Radeon HD 5970. [3] [4] This card is still available, as you can see e.g. here.-- MrBurns ( talk) 05:08, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
Article should also include section about purpose of numerous pins some graphic cards have on their boards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.93.97.103 ( talk) 05:40, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
I can't find any mention of the distinction between Discrete and Integrated graphics. Shouldn't there be a sentence that explains the difference? Jaredbeck ( talk) 00:54, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
I have included a sentence to address that, and have tried to expand and update the article. It still needs work though. Tetsuo ( talk) 01:37, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
Added a small history section. That's important to explain why there are video cards in the first place, and why they are are connected to the PCs.-- 4throck ( talk) 08:08, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
First choose the best cable as first choice High-Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI), as a second choice Digital Visual Interface (DVI) , as a last option Video Graphics Array (VGA).
After that replace the video card program video monitor for gpu in adjusting size and position of the workspace in configuration to scale without scale after full screen, then check the box to replace the scaling mode set by games and programs. User:R. Portela F. 02:02, 7 September 2014 (UTC)