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documented truth:
Fawzi al-kutub was a bomb maker who helped the arabs in 47-48. He learned his skills as an ss officer with the germans , there is so much revisionism by palestinian sympathizers to demonize israeli jews and their supporters once has to wonder is this projection. this could be a whole new area of study.
Wow! Wonderful addition, Alberuni! BTW, where did you get this list? If it is from another source we can reach over the web, it should be an "External Link". If it is a book or journal, it should be listed as a "Reference".-- iFaqeer 18:37, Sep 22, 2004 (UTC)
Shouldn't the material about Shaikh Al-Husayni be removed and just replaced with a link to Amin al-Husayni?-- iFaqeer 19:11, Sep 22, 2004 (UTC)
Fatwa 2nd and third paragraphs: Contrary to what is believed by many non-Muslims, and even by the majority of Muslims, a fatwa is not binding on all persons professing the Muslim faith. The only ones who are obliged to obey any specific fatwa are the mufti who issued it and his followers.
The Sheikh of Al-Azhar University in Cairo, Muhammad Sayid Tantawy, who is the leading religious authority in the Sunni Muslim establishment in Egypt, said the following about Fatwas issued by himself or the entire Al-Azhar University:
"Fatwas issued by Al-Azhar are not binding; individuals are free to accept them or not. It is the right of Muslims in France who object to the bill (banning the veil) to bring it up to the legislative and judicial authorities. If the judiciary decides in favor of the government because the country is secular, they would be considered to be Muslim individuals acting under compelling circumstances." [1] -- The Brain 16:10, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
What is the point of the point of the referral to Amin al-Husayni at the top? It's not as if the term "Grand Mufti" somehow may specifically mean Amin al-Husayni; Grand Mufti can mean any hundreds of Grand Muftis and Amin al-Husayni is by no means the most famous Grand Mufti ever, so no-one would type in "Grand Mufti" intending to find an article about Amin al-Husayni in particular. And by putting the example of this Grand Mufti in particular and describing his supposed Nazi collaboration as the first sentence in the article seems to me to be maligning the respected institution of the Grand Mufti. I therefore see the link as irrelevant, pointless and of malicious intent, and as such have removed it. It's like putting a link to Reverend Al Sharpton or Reverend Wesley Swift at the top of the reverend article, which is outright ridiculous! Tanzeel 22:52, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
point he is the most famous "grand Mufti" known by the term "grand Mufti" more than any other Mufti.
Kim, This is a disambiguation link. The term "grand Mufti" in many places refer sepcifically tio Amin Huseni. See above google link. Zeq 07:54, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
I have created the disambiguation page and it is gone, no record of it ever created. Zeq 17:33, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Kim, I don't understand what you are looking for. Do you want "a guide to write an encyclopedia article about the Mufti" ? There is no such link or publication we should use our best judgment and policy. The most applicaable policy is WP:Dis.
The method we do disambiguation is list at the top of the page. The disambiguation helps people find the correct article. What you have done does not help them, in fact you used your admin toolds to hide the article from people who punch in the search words "grand Mufti" and want to find abou the most famous mufti of them all. He is know all over the world under the title "grand Mufti" (this is btw, the main title on him in Hebrew wikipedia but that beside the point)
So why do you want to hide the article and why aren't you following the disambiguation policy ? Zeq 17:42, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
PS here are two google searches that would help you understand why most refernces to grand Mufti are to a specific person:
Best, Zeq 17:47, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
This page is mostly about the title. List of people carrying that title (most are minor non notable figures) so the proper name for ths article is about the title of grand Mufti. This would make the disambigaution needed again. Zeq 19:32, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
maybe we shoud seprate this page into two: 1 article about people who hold this title and a more important article about the title - we can cross ref them to each other. Zeq 19:59, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
UFC mufti roxane, definately a prank —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.118.55.106 ( talk) 08:13, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
The list of Grand Muftis is clearly incomplete. I've a list of signatories of a Common Word which includes quite a few other Grand Muftis (and most without a Wikipedia entry). Gebruiker:Dedalus 12:53, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
documented truth:
Fawzi al-kutub was a bomb maker who helped the arabs in 47-48. He learned his skills as an ss officer with the germans , there is so much revisionism by palestinian sympathizers to demonize israeli jews and their supporters once has to wonder is this projection. this could be a whole new area of study.
Wow! Wonderful addition, Alberuni! BTW, where did you get this list? If it is from another source we can reach over the web, it should be an "External Link". If it is a book or journal, it should be listed as a "Reference".-- iFaqeer 18:37, Sep 22, 2004 (UTC)
Shouldn't the material about Shaikh Al-Husayni be removed and just replaced with a link to Amin al-Husayni?-- iFaqeer 19:11, Sep 22, 2004 (UTC)
Fatwa 2nd and third paragraphs: Contrary to what is believed by many non-Muslims, and even by the majority of Muslims, a fatwa is not binding on all persons professing the Muslim faith. The only ones who are obliged to obey any specific fatwa are the mufti who issued it and his followers.
The Sheikh of Al-Azhar University in Cairo, Muhammad Sayid Tantawy, who is the leading religious authority in the Sunni Muslim establishment in Egypt, said the following about Fatwas issued by himself or the entire Al-Azhar University:
"Fatwas issued by Al-Azhar are not binding; individuals are free to accept them or not. It is the right of Muslims in France who object to the bill (banning the veil) to bring it up to the legislative and judicial authorities. If the judiciary decides in favor of the government because the country is secular, they would be considered to be Muslim individuals acting under compelling circumstances." [1] -- The Brain 16:10, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
What is the point of the point of the referral to Amin al-Husayni at the top? It's not as if the term "Grand Mufti" somehow may specifically mean Amin al-Husayni; Grand Mufti can mean any hundreds of Grand Muftis and Amin al-Husayni is by no means the most famous Grand Mufti ever, so no-one would type in "Grand Mufti" intending to find an article about Amin al-Husayni in particular. And by putting the example of this Grand Mufti in particular and describing his supposed Nazi collaboration as the first sentence in the article seems to me to be maligning the respected institution of the Grand Mufti. I therefore see the link as irrelevant, pointless and of malicious intent, and as such have removed it. It's like putting a link to Reverend Al Sharpton or Reverend Wesley Swift at the top of the reverend article, which is outright ridiculous! Tanzeel 22:52, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
point he is the most famous "grand Mufti" known by the term "grand Mufti" more than any other Mufti.
Kim, This is a disambiguation link. The term "grand Mufti" in many places refer sepcifically tio Amin Huseni. See above google link. Zeq 07:54, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
I have created the disambiguation page and it is gone, no record of it ever created. Zeq 17:33, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Kim, I don't understand what you are looking for. Do you want "a guide to write an encyclopedia article about the Mufti" ? There is no such link or publication we should use our best judgment and policy. The most applicaable policy is WP:Dis.
The method we do disambiguation is list at the top of the page. The disambiguation helps people find the correct article. What you have done does not help them, in fact you used your admin toolds to hide the article from people who punch in the search words "grand Mufti" and want to find abou the most famous mufti of them all. He is know all over the world under the title "grand Mufti" (this is btw, the main title on him in Hebrew wikipedia but that beside the point)
So why do you want to hide the article and why aren't you following the disambiguation policy ? Zeq 17:42, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
PS here are two google searches that would help you understand why most refernces to grand Mufti are to a specific person:
Best, Zeq 17:47, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
This page is mostly about the title. List of people carrying that title (most are minor non notable figures) so the proper name for ths article is about the title of grand Mufti. This would make the disambigaution needed again. Zeq 19:32, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
maybe we shoud seprate this page into two: 1 article about people who hold this title and a more important article about the title - we can cross ref them to each other. Zeq 19:59, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
UFC mufti roxane, definately a prank —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.118.55.106 ( talk) 08:13, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
The list of Grand Muftis is clearly incomplete. I've a list of signatories of a Common Word which includes quite a few other Grand Muftis (and most without a Wikipedia entry). Gebruiker:Dedalus 12:53, 12 October 2007 (UTC)