A fact from Maria Pavlovna, Grand Duchess of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 10 June 2006. The text of the entry was as follows:
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Comment As I pointed out in another discussion none of the pages at
Category:Russian grand duchesses use a woman's title upon marriage within the article's name. Firstly, because these women are mostly remembered as Russian grand duchesses rather than the wives of lower ranking dukes or princes. Secondly, there are other pages on women who have shared a similar title with these grand duchesses upon marriage. For instance, the subject of this page held the title "Grand Duchess of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach", however,
there were other women who bore the exact same title, and for them we have used their maiden names. So moving this page to the suggested title would violate
WP:TITLECON on multiple levels. Keivan.fTalk21:27, 6 September 2023 (UTC)reply
In that case the nominator has to demonstrate that the person was mostly notable as Grand Duchess of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach rather than a Grand Duchess of Russia. Keivan.fTalk02:47, 15 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Her time as as consort in Germany is longer than her life before marriage and one of the images used in the article is a commemorative medal with the German title prominently above the image of her head, estar's proposal is good too.
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14:47, 15 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Yes, but we should not forget that this is the English Wikipedia. Obviously, German sources would favor the German title but what about English sources or even Russian sources (she was Russian after all)? We have to look those up too before jumping to conclusions. Keivan.fTalk16:21, 15 September 2023 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
A fact from Maria Pavlovna, Grand Duchess of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 10 June 2006. The text of the entry was as follows:
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Comment As I pointed out in another discussion none of the pages at
Category:Russian grand duchesses use a woman's title upon marriage within the article's name. Firstly, because these women are mostly remembered as Russian grand duchesses rather than the wives of lower ranking dukes or princes. Secondly, there are other pages on women who have shared a similar title with these grand duchesses upon marriage. For instance, the subject of this page held the title "Grand Duchess of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach", however,
there were other women who bore the exact same title, and for them we have used their maiden names. So moving this page to the suggested title would violate
WP:TITLECON on multiple levels. Keivan.fTalk21:27, 6 September 2023 (UTC)reply
In that case the nominator has to demonstrate that the person was mostly notable as Grand Duchess of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach rather than a Grand Duchess of Russia. Keivan.fTalk02:47, 15 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Her time as as consort in Germany is longer than her life before marriage and one of the images used in the article is a commemorative medal with the German title prominently above the image of her head, estar's proposal is good too.
Killuminator (
talk)
14:47, 15 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Yes, but we should not forget that this is the English Wikipedia. Obviously, German sources would favor the German title but what about English sources or even Russian sources (she was Russian after all)? We have to look those up too before jumping to conclusions. Keivan.fTalk16:21, 15 September 2023 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.