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From the text on 9/29/11 In late 1928, the Public Works Administration began clearing the reservoir zone of trees and other plants. The PWA did not exist until 1933.
Randy Golden ( talk) 10:33, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
The Woody Guthrie quote should probably be trans-wikied to Wikiquote. Icelight July 7, 2005 18:57 (UTC)
In addition to Woody Guthrie, Bob Dylan mentioned the Grand Coulee Dam in "Idiot Wind," a well-known song of his. Not sure if this, combined with Guthrie's songs, merits a "trivia/references in popular culture" section.
I just reverted a long series of edits. I recognize that they represent a great deal of work, and that there's probably a lot of value in there; much of it should probably be restored.
But the main flag for me was that the 3rd edit in the article removed a full citation to a newspaper article, and replaced it with a link citation to a privately-maintained web site. This is a significant problem, see the policy on verifiability and the guideline on reliable sources for a fuller explanation. - Pete ( talk) 16:59, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I just changed the source for the 3rd edit back to what it had been, plus made a few other changes to promote verifiability as much as possible. No harm intended. Djrdavid ( talk) 21:32, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I understand the need to be impartial in articles, but as currently, it's as if there were no politics involved in creating Grand Coulee dam at all. I am going to take a whack at the background section, and see if I can add more information and still be fair. (I also noticed that the first paragraph of the background section is identical to the first para of the History section of the Columbia Basic Project ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_Basin_Project). I will try to cite early and often, and use my edit summaries. I'm still new at this, so feel free to give advice. <g> Sherrold ( talk) 21:02, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
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what is the origin of the name Grand Coulee?
The Expansion section says that the dam is more than a mile long. The introduction says that the dam is almost (meaning "less than") a mile long. This ought to be reconciled. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.25.123 ( talk) 06:29, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
The Grand Coulee Dam is 500 feet wide at the base while the Great pyramid is 756 ft by 756 ft along one side of its base. It is also not true that all of other pyramids would fit within its base as the Pyramid of Khafre is 706 ft by 706 ft. The Pyramids are only worth mentioning for volume comparisons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.118.248 ( talk) 01:11, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
My grandfather worked on building the dam during the depression, lived in a tent with a gasoline powered washing machine and lit by an attached electrical generator. According to my grandmother a physician would issue amphetamines (benzadrine?) when workers arrived and again at lunch to make them work harder. She claimed this lead to a nervous breakdown. I have not yet been able to find a published source for the drugging of workers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.67.35.35 ( talk) 16:19, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
I have been working on this article with the goal of getting it to peer review than FA status here in the future. If anyone would like to help, feel free. I am going to add more information but wanted to open a discussion here for anyone interested. If anything, this can be a to-do list. Some areas currently needing expansion are:
There are a lot pictures already but some resources are here at BOR, here and here at LOC. All literary resources I have are linked in the bibliography/references already. The article is looking good IMO and needs some work but is getting there. Any help would be appreciated.-- NortyNort (Holla) 09:41, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
A minor point: The term "Grand Coulee Plateau" is not one I had heard before. It is not listed in the USGS's GNIS database. I'd be more inclined to use a term like Columbia Plateau or Columbia Basin, even though the irrigated region is but a small portion of either (and the term "basin" has multiple meanings). But instead of trying to change it, I thought I'd ask here first. Are there sources that use of the term "Grand Coulee Plateau"? I also find the shorter "Coulee plateau" usage odd, as in ...proposal to irrigate the Coulee plateau... It sounds odd not just because the coulee and the plateau are opposites in a way--the coulee being a gap in the plateau--but also because the plateau immediately around the coulee was never irrigated nor, as far as I know, ever intended to be irrigated by the dam--rather the plateau lands to the south of the south end of Grand Coulee, yes? Anyway, I'll try to look over the article more carefully for places to improve things. Pfly ( talk) 03:40, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
I wonder if you all might be interested in an article about the dam in DGER Information Circular 86. Also has maps and diagrams. - J. Johnson (JJ) ( talk) 23:16, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
The article is in Category:Woody Guthrie, but as far as I can see there's no mention of the Woody Guthrie song in the article. As much as Wikipedia discourages "in popular culture" sections, I'd think that the song would be sufficiently noteworthy to merit a mention, perhaps in the context of the planned and abandoned PR film discussed at Woodie Guthrie#Pacific Northwest. I'm sure that many people outside the Pacific Northwest know of this dam primarily via Guthrie's music; his absence from this article seems a glaring omission. — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 04:41, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
In the opening sentence, I changed "U.S." to "United States", as "U.S." goes against WP:MOS. However, "in the United States state of Washington" doesn't seem to read very well. Would simply, "in the state of Washington" be acceptable? Joefromrandb ( talk) 18:10, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
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From the text on 9/29/11 In late 1928, the Public Works Administration began clearing the reservoir zone of trees and other plants. The PWA did not exist until 1933.
Randy Golden ( talk) 10:33, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
The Woody Guthrie quote should probably be trans-wikied to Wikiquote. Icelight July 7, 2005 18:57 (UTC)
In addition to Woody Guthrie, Bob Dylan mentioned the Grand Coulee Dam in "Idiot Wind," a well-known song of his. Not sure if this, combined with Guthrie's songs, merits a "trivia/references in popular culture" section.
I just reverted a long series of edits. I recognize that they represent a great deal of work, and that there's probably a lot of value in there; much of it should probably be restored.
But the main flag for me was that the 3rd edit in the article removed a full citation to a newspaper article, and replaced it with a link citation to a privately-maintained web site. This is a significant problem, see the policy on verifiability and the guideline on reliable sources for a fuller explanation. - Pete ( talk) 16:59, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I just changed the source for the 3rd edit back to what it had been, plus made a few other changes to promote verifiability as much as possible. No harm intended. Djrdavid ( talk) 21:32, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I understand the need to be impartial in articles, but as currently, it's as if there were no politics involved in creating Grand Coulee dam at all. I am going to take a whack at the background section, and see if I can add more information and still be fair. (I also noticed that the first paragraph of the background section is identical to the first para of the History section of the Columbia Basic Project ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_Basin_Project). I will try to cite early and often, and use my edit summaries. I'm still new at this, so feel free to give advice. <g> Sherrold ( talk) 21:02, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
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what is the origin of the name Grand Coulee?
The Expansion section says that the dam is more than a mile long. The introduction says that the dam is almost (meaning "less than") a mile long. This ought to be reconciled. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.25.123 ( talk) 06:29, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
The Grand Coulee Dam is 500 feet wide at the base while the Great pyramid is 756 ft by 756 ft along one side of its base. It is also not true that all of other pyramids would fit within its base as the Pyramid of Khafre is 706 ft by 706 ft. The Pyramids are only worth mentioning for volume comparisons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.118.248 ( talk) 01:11, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
My grandfather worked on building the dam during the depression, lived in a tent with a gasoline powered washing machine and lit by an attached electrical generator. According to my grandmother a physician would issue amphetamines (benzadrine?) when workers arrived and again at lunch to make them work harder. She claimed this lead to a nervous breakdown. I have not yet been able to find a published source for the drugging of workers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.67.35.35 ( talk) 16:19, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
I have been working on this article with the goal of getting it to peer review than FA status here in the future. If anyone would like to help, feel free. I am going to add more information but wanted to open a discussion here for anyone interested. If anything, this can be a to-do list. Some areas currently needing expansion are:
There are a lot pictures already but some resources are here at BOR, here and here at LOC. All literary resources I have are linked in the bibliography/references already. The article is looking good IMO and needs some work but is getting there. Any help would be appreciated.-- NortyNort (Holla) 09:41, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
A minor point: The term "Grand Coulee Plateau" is not one I had heard before. It is not listed in the USGS's GNIS database. I'd be more inclined to use a term like Columbia Plateau or Columbia Basin, even though the irrigated region is but a small portion of either (and the term "basin" has multiple meanings). But instead of trying to change it, I thought I'd ask here first. Are there sources that use of the term "Grand Coulee Plateau"? I also find the shorter "Coulee plateau" usage odd, as in ...proposal to irrigate the Coulee plateau... It sounds odd not just because the coulee and the plateau are opposites in a way--the coulee being a gap in the plateau--but also because the plateau immediately around the coulee was never irrigated nor, as far as I know, ever intended to be irrigated by the dam--rather the plateau lands to the south of the south end of Grand Coulee, yes? Anyway, I'll try to look over the article more carefully for places to improve things. Pfly ( talk) 03:40, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
I wonder if you all might be interested in an article about the dam in DGER Information Circular 86. Also has maps and diagrams. - J. Johnson (JJ) ( talk) 23:16, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
The article is in Category:Woody Guthrie, but as far as I can see there's no mention of the Woody Guthrie song in the article. As much as Wikipedia discourages "in popular culture" sections, I'd think that the song would be sufficiently noteworthy to merit a mention, perhaps in the context of the planned and abandoned PR film discussed at Woodie Guthrie#Pacific Northwest. I'm sure that many people outside the Pacific Northwest know of this dam primarily via Guthrie's music; his absence from this article seems a glaring omission. — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 04:41, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
In the opening sentence, I changed "U.S." to "United States", as "U.S." goes against WP:MOS. However, "in the United States state of Washington" doesn't seem to read very well. Would simply, "in the state of Washington" be acceptable? Joefromrandb ( talk) 18:10, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
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