The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I enjoy reviewing your articles and I often have a start because I saw them first at DYK. I look forward to reviewing this one, it may take me a bit.
Lightburst (
talk)
02:52, 1 June 2024 (UTC)reply
The article is quite a chunk - 10k words. I read it through a few time, I think some material my be considered extraneous information, but it is there in your desire to cover everything. But I will carry on with citation checks.
Lightburst (
talk)
15:22, 3 June 2024 (UTC)reply
I had a chance to do another read through and check some of the references. I will list any other issues for your consideration.
Lightburst (
talk)
22:56, 18 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Good work. I was unable to confirms some sources, but I am very familiar with EG's writing and source interpreting skills. AGF is appropriate. The sources I did confirm were spot-on. It is always a pleasure to review EG's work as they are very receptive to improvement suggestions. Overall the article passes our guidelines for a good article and I am happy to pass the GAN.
Lightburst (
talk)
17:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Images
All are properly licensed: three are from the Library of Congress and the other 6 are from users and Flickr. They add interest and are appropriate.
Lightburst (
talk)
03:04, 1 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Grammar and other
"and it has also received accolades and been depicted in numerous media works." might be missing a word before been depicted
In the body we have "also known as Archibald Gracie Mansion" there is already a redirect from that title, so would it make sense to add this to the lead in bold?
"New York City cultural affairs commissioner" Also wondering about capitalization here
I think this might fall under
MOS:JOBTITLES, which recommends lowercasing the job title unless we're specifically talking about the office (e.g. Commissioner Cultural Affairs).
Epicgenius (
talk)
17:51, 2 June 2024 (UTC) Donereply
"interior decorators; and Dianne Pilgrim and David McFadden were employed as the curators." Not sure the word and should appear after the semi
There are multiple things here: a service door and windows. The full sentence is "There are also a service door to the north and windows to the east."
Epicgenius (
talk)
17:51, 2 June 2024 (UTC) I see, it still sounds funny but if you are happy... Donereply
"Wagner ballroom." unsure if ballroom should be capitalized
"New-York Historical Society" I do not think New York should be hyphenated
Funnily, this hyphenation is correct in the N-YHS's case. The hyphen dates from
the 19th century when the city was referred to as "New-York". We no longer use the hyphen when referring to the city, but the organization still uses a hyphen in its own name.
Epicgenius (
talk)
17:51, 2 June 2024 (UTC) Donereply
"interior scenes were actually filmed at Wave Hill" actually may be an unnecessary word
Not sure if the citation should be inside the parenthesis here "mayor invited to the mansion[24])" I see this several times in the article so you intended to do it. I will research to see if this is MOS.
This line may read as conversational "Gracie was so wealthy that, when he lost $1 million in 1807 due to naval blockades, his net worth was hardly affected." what do you think?
"Susan had to change in a closet when official city meetings encroached into the mansion's living space" I know what this means but maybe we should make it clearer?
Would you consider using $ inflation templates? All of the expansions and repairs - especially the large amounts from the annex section - the amounts seem low but with inflation were actually high.
missing context for this line in the Koch use and expansion section? "He decided to live at Gracie Mansion full-time after having dinner there with his family" and "within four years, Koch had gone through four chefs"
For the first sentence, he just decided to live at the mansion after attending a family dinner there. For the second sentence, Koch was notoriously picky about his food, so he fired three chefs in quick succession.
Epicgenius (
talk)
15:20, 3 June 2024 (UTC)reply
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with
the layout style guideline:
B.
Reliable sources are
cited inline. All content that
could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I enjoy reviewing your articles and I often have a start because I saw them first at DYK. I look forward to reviewing this one, it may take me a bit.
Lightburst (
talk)
02:52, 1 June 2024 (UTC)reply
The article is quite a chunk - 10k words. I read it through a few time, I think some material my be considered extraneous information, but it is there in your desire to cover everything. But I will carry on with citation checks.
Lightburst (
talk)
15:22, 3 June 2024 (UTC)reply
I had a chance to do another read through and check some of the references. I will list any other issues for your consideration.
Lightburst (
talk)
22:56, 18 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Good work. I was unable to confirms some sources, but I am very familiar with EG's writing and source interpreting skills. AGF is appropriate. The sources I did confirm were spot-on. It is always a pleasure to review EG's work as they are very receptive to improvement suggestions. Overall the article passes our guidelines for a good article and I am happy to pass the GAN.
Lightburst (
talk)
17:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Images
All are properly licensed: three are from the Library of Congress and the other 6 are from users and Flickr. They add interest and are appropriate.
Lightburst (
talk)
03:04, 1 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Grammar and other
"and it has also received accolades and been depicted in numerous media works." might be missing a word before been depicted
In the body we have "also known as Archibald Gracie Mansion" there is already a redirect from that title, so would it make sense to add this to the lead in bold?
"New York City cultural affairs commissioner" Also wondering about capitalization here
I think this might fall under
MOS:JOBTITLES, which recommends lowercasing the job title unless we're specifically talking about the office (e.g. Commissioner Cultural Affairs).
Epicgenius (
talk)
17:51, 2 June 2024 (UTC) Donereply
"interior decorators; and Dianne Pilgrim and David McFadden were employed as the curators." Not sure the word and should appear after the semi
There are multiple things here: a service door and windows. The full sentence is "There are also a service door to the north and windows to the east."
Epicgenius (
talk)
17:51, 2 June 2024 (UTC) I see, it still sounds funny but if you are happy... Donereply
"Wagner ballroom." unsure if ballroom should be capitalized
"New-York Historical Society" I do not think New York should be hyphenated
Funnily, this hyphenation is correct in the N-YHS's case. The hyphen dates from
the 19th century when the city was referred to as "New-York". We no longer use the hyphen when referring to the city, but the organization still uses a hyphen in its own name.
Epicgenius (
talk)
17:51, 2 June 2024 (UTC) Donereply
"interior scenes were actually filmed at Wave Hill" actually may be an unnecessary word
Not sure if the citation should be inside the parenthesis here "mayor invited to the mansion[24])" I see this several times in the article so you intended to do it. I will research to see if this is MOS.
This line may read as conversational "Gracie was so wealthy that, when he lost $1 million in 1807 due to naval blockades, his net worth was hardly affected." what do you think?
"Susan had to change in a closet when official city meetings encroached into the mansion's living space" I know what this means but maybe we should make it clearer?
Would you consider using $ inflation templates? All of the expansions and repairs - especially the large amounts from the annex section - the amounts seem low but with inflation were actually high.
missing context for this line in the Koch use and expansion section? "He decided to live at Gracie Mansion full-time after having dinner there with his family" and "within four years, Koch had gone through four chefs"
For the first sentence, he just decided to live at the mansion after attending a family dinner there. For the second sentence, Koch was notoriously picky about his food, so he fired three chefs in quick succession.
Epicgenius (
talk)
15:20, 3 June 2024 (UTC)reply
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with
the layout style guideline:
B.
Reliable sources are
cited inline. All content that
could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.