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Hey Rarelibra. Why did you revert those recent changes? I guess I didn't know anyone was watching the article but the main change was suggested here on my talk page by User:Al Ameer son. He (?) thinks that the image I removed wasn't that great (he suggested I remove it.) Thus I removed it, but I was then unhappy with the formatting/layout of the article and thus I removed the overpowering Palestine Politics template. -- Abnn 02:11, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
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-- Abnn 17:51, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
I tried incorporating these in the article, but they did not flow well. If someone knows how to incorporate them so they look good, they would be a good alternative or supplement to the current maps. The only advantage of the maps incorporating both West Bank and Gaza is that they show the distance and scale between the two territories. (actually, if they are being shown in accurate scale, showing Israel's borders too would be helpful) -- JWB 22:33, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
So let me get this straight... JWB rearranged the maps back on 7/2/2007 at 17:01 to
then all this nonsense happened with making the images incredibly large for "14 and 15 inch screens", as well as placing them at the bottom of the article, then JWB rearranged the maps back on 7/2/2007 at 19:30 to
so why did we have all this nonsense about the incredibly large sizing and replacement to the bottom of the article in the first place? Next time, please discuss here before attempt such radical edits, Timeshifter. Thank you. Rarelibra 20:47, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Governorates of the Palestinian National Authority
Hi. Try narrowing your browser window to see the problem with putting the image in floating alignment with text and sidebars wrapping around to the right. It doesn't work. They overlap. That is why I moved the images down to the bottom of the page.
And since the images are farther down, there is no reason not to show one of them at a large enough size to be able to read the text on it.
By the way, I cropped your great image so that the horizontal scroll bar does not show up when the image is shown at larger sizes. -- Timeshifter 01:00, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
No compromise was necessary when you stop and consider that maps are ACCESSORIES to the articles. The article, in this case, is about the governorates of the Palestinian National Authority. The maps help give the reader a 'picture' to see things more clear. Don't ever confuse the article for the map - as your statement of "it IS the focus" suggests. Rarelibra 02:32, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
You were the one who started with a condescending approach. Making the image 700px IS too big. It becomes bigger than the article itself. Also, it is not inconsiderate to dial-up users to have thumbnail images - rather, it is in keeping with the layout of the article. Trust me on this one. If you go around making images 700px, there is a 99.99% chance that the same images will be reduced back in size (and I haven't checked your history). I don't wish to argue with you on the semantics of dial-up. Thumbnail images are meant to be clicked on for better detail - if someone is dialing up I'm quite sure they understand this. It is not in the design of an article to make images so large as to perfectly load just for dialup users - in context, imagine the many more broadband users who see this gigantic image that overtakes the entire article. Not good. Rarelibra 20:40, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Well, then - knock yourself out. Rarelibra 20:59, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know if the figures from the Palestinian statistics office includes everybody who lives in the governates, or just those subject to PNA authority, or if they exclude inhabitants that the PNA would consider illegitimate (i.e. Israeli settlers)? This would make a big difference, particularly in the Jerusalem governorate. -- Jfruh ( talk) 17:49, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 ( talk) 11:25, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Governorates of the Palestinian National Authority →
Governorates of Palestine – Per the article, PNA officially became Palestine a few years ago
Sepsis II (
talk)
22:47, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. Jenks24 ( talk) 16:43, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Governorates of Palestine →
Governorates of the State of Palestine – Per official name of the
State of Palestine, and not to confuse the object subject with such multi-valued term as
Palestine. Comment: it's also worth to think how to attract more editors and to add more time for discussion, than it happened during last renaming "
Governorates of the Palestinian National Authority →
Governorates of Palestine". (Attn:
Jenks24,
Neljack,
Soman,
Andrewa +
Shhhhwwww!!,
Khestwol,
WarKosign,
Oncenawhile,
Pluto2012,
DrKiernan,
Elspamo4,
Glen Spearleat mentioned in the
Requested move 5 August 2015 "State of Palestine → Palestine
Palestine → Palestine (region)")
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Hey Rarelibra. Why did you revert those recent changes? I guess I didn't know anyone was watching the article but the main change was suggested here on my talk page by User:Al Ameer son. He (?) thinks that the image I removed wasn't that great (he suggested I remove it.) Thus I removed it, but I was then unhappy with the formatting/layout of the article and thus I removed the overpowering Palestine Politics template. -- Abnn 02:11, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
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-- Abnn 17:51, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
I tried incorporating these in the article, but they did not flow well. If someone knows how to incorporate them so they look good, they would be a good alternative or supplement to the current maps. The only advantage of the maps incorporating both West Bank and Gaza is that they show the distance and scale between the two territories. (actually, if they are being shown in accurate scale, showing Israel's borders too would be helpful) -- JWB 22:33, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
So let me get this straight... JWB rearranged the maps back on 7/2/2007 at 17:01 to
then all this nonsense happened with making the images incredibly large for "14 and 15 inch screens", as well as placing them at the bottom of the article, then JWB rearranged the maps back on 7/2/2007 at 19:30 to
so why did we have all this nonsense about the incredibly large sizing and replacement to the bottom of the article in the first place? Next time, please discuss here before attempt such radical edits, Timeshifter. Thank you. Rarelibra 20:47, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Governorates of the Palestinian National Authority
Hi. Try narrowing your browser window to see the problem with putting the image in floating alignment with text and sidebars wrapping around to the right. It doesn't work. They overlap. That is why I moved the images down to the bottom of the page.
And since the images are farther down, there is no reason not to show one of them at a large enough size to be able to read the text on it.
By the way, I cropped your great image so that the horizontal scroll bar does not show up when the image is shown at larger sizes. -- Timeshifter 01:00, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
No compromise was necessary when you stop and consider that maps are ACCESSORIES to the articles. The article, in this case, is about the governorates of the Palestinian National Authority. The maps help give the reader a 'picture' to see things more clear. Don't ever confuse the article for the map - as your statement of "it IS the focus" suggests. Rarelibra 02:32, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
You were the one who started with a condescending approach. Making the image 700px IS too big. It becomes bigger than the article itself. Also, it is not inconsiderate to dial-up users to have thumbnail images - rather, it is in keeping with the layout of the article. Trust me on this one. If you go around making images 700px, there is a 99.99% chance that the same images will be reduced back in size (and I haven't checked your history). I don't wish to argue with you on the semantics of dial-up. Thumbnail images are meant to be clicked on for better detail - if someone is dialing up I'm quite sure they understand this. It is not in the design of an article to make images so large as to perfectly load just for dialup users - in context, imagine the many more broadband users who see this gigantic image that overtakes the entire article. Not good. Rarelibra 20:40, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Well, then - knock yourself out. Rarelibra 20:59, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know if the figures from the Palestinian statistics office includes everybody who lives in the governates, or just those subject to PNA authority, or if they exclude inhabitants that the PNA would consider illegitimate (i.e. Israeli settlers)? This would make a big difference, particularly in the Jerusalem governorate. -- Jfruh ( talk) 17:49, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 ( talk) 11:25, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Governorates of the Palestinian National Authority →
Governorates of Palestine – Per the article, PNA officially became Palestine a few years ago
Sepsis II (
talk)
22:47, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. Jenks24 ( talk) 16:43, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Governorates of Palestine →
Governorates of the State of Palestine – Per official name of the
State of Palestine, and not to confuse the object subject with such multi-valued term as
Palestine. Comment: it's also worth to think how to attract more editors and to add more time for discussion, than it happened during last renaming "
Governorates of the Palestinian National Authority →
Governorates of Palestine". (Attn:
Jenks24,
Neljack,
Soman,
Andrewa +
Shhhhwwww!!,
Khestwol,
WarKosign,
Oncenawhile,
Pluto2012,
DrKiernan,
Elspamo4,
Glen Spearleat mentioned in the
Requested move 5 August 2015 "State of Palestine → Palestine
Palestine → Palestine (region)")
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We need to find live sources for these tables since the links to geohive doesn't work anymore. ImTheIP ( talk) 12:33, 12 August 2017 (UTC)