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Bram Stoker quoted from Burger’s “Lenore” in the first chapter of Dracula. The line in question is “die Todten reiten schnell”. In my version of Dracula this is on page 8. I have not edited wikipedia before so someone who knows how should include this in the article. 24.205.93.12 ( talk) 23:50, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm sure an interesting explanation of this could be devised Baron Munchausen-style (probably having something to do with giving birth in a balloon traversing the International Dateline), but, alas, that might not be a reliable source. I noticed the discrepancy in the sources because the German Wikipedia has the 1747 date [1] and the English Wikipedia has the 1748 date.
I added the short lists of sources on both sides below, but then found this (for slightly extended quote, see this) (Little, William Alfred, Gottfried August Bürger, Twayne Publishers, 1974, ISBN 9780805721850, retrieved November 27, 2008) in Google Books. Apparently, there's a longstanding controversy about Burger's date of birth (from page 13): [...] the year of his birth was for generations the subject of debate: was it on December 31, 1747 or January 1, 1748 that Burger was born in the village of Molmerswende in the precinct of Falkenstein and the bishopric of Halberstadt? Burger and his family always celebrated his birthday [...] And there the exerpt on Google Books ends, quite dramatically.
Sources found on the Web are divided, but more recent scholarly works seem to favor '47:
So which is it? This generations-long debate is probably worth mentioning in the article, since there are so many sources on each side. Reconsideration ( talk) 03:35, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Another source I found in addition to the above says January: The Poets and Poetry of Europe. I think that if the gravestone said January 1, then that was most likely when his family celebrated it (in regards to the end of that google books preview). The story makes sense, he was most likely really born in the waning hours of December 31 but always celebrated it has January 1. I'd say just source both birthdates in the article, or perhaps give a small section regarding this controversy in the article so people are aware of it. -- Banime ( talk) 14:01, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
It's a delightful little detail that rounds out the portrayal of Bürger and his father. A short paragraph explaining the conflicting birth dates would not be out of order.-- Goodmorningworld ( talk) 16:11, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
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Bram Stoker quoted from Burger’s “Lenore” in the first chapter of Dracula. The line in question is “die Todten reiten schnell”. In my version of Dracula this is on page 8. I have not edited wikipedia before so someone who knows how should include this in the article. 24.205.93.12 ( talk) 23:50, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm sure an interesting explanation of this could be devised Baron Munchausen-style (probably having something to do with giving birth in a balloon traversing the International Dateline), but, alas, that might not be a reliable source. I noticed the discrepancy in the sources because the German Wikipedia has the 1747 date [1] and the English Wikipedia has the 1748 date.
I added the short lists of sources on both sides below, but then found this (for slightly extended quote, see this) (Little, William Alfred, Gottfried August Bürger, Twayne Publishers, 1974, ISBN 9780805721850, retrieved November 27, 2008) in Google Books. Apparently, there's a longstanding controversy about Burger's date of birth (from page 13): [...] the year of his birth was for generations the subject of debate: was it on December 31, 1747 or January 1, 1748 that Burger was born in the village of Molmerswende in the precinct of Falkenstein and the bishopric of Halberstadt? Burger and his family always celebrated his birthday [...] And there the exerpt on Google Books ends, quite dramatically.
Sources found on the Web are divided, but more recent scholarly works seem to favor '47:
So which is it? This generations-long debate is probably worth mentioning in the article, since there are so many sources on each side. Reconsideration ( talk) 03:35, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Another source I found in addition to the above says January: The Poets and Poetry of Europe. I think that if the gravestone said January 1, then that was most likely when his family celebrated it (in regards to the end of that google books preview). The story makes sense, he was most likely really born in the waning hours of December 31 but always celebrated it has January 1. I'd say just source both birthdates in the article, or perhaps give a small section regarding this controversy in the article so people are aware of it. -- Banime ( talk) 14:01, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
It's a delightful little detail that rounds out the portrayal of Bürger and his father. A short paragraph explaining the conflicting birth dates would not be out of order.-- Goodmorningworld ( talk) 16:11, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
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