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Currently - "On 15 May 1971, Banks was involved in a notorious incident with George Best who, while playing against England for Northern Ireland, flicked the ball out of Banks's hands and headed it into the net.[125] The move was audacious, but was disallowed by the referee, who judged it to be dangerous play."
The goal was disallowed for the reason stated by the referee, but Banks had thrown the ball into the air with his hands to then kick it down field. Best famously kicked the ball whilst it was still in the air for that very short amount of time (he notably didn't actually kick the ball out of Bank's hands). The ball went bouncing high towards the goal and both players chased after it, Best heading it in.
Video of the incident - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D8IW_3_6D8 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.16.72.221 ( talk) 19:54, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
One source says December 20 was his birthday. Is this just rubbish/a typo?
one of his most famous stories tells of how he casually said "See you Alf!" to his England boss after one get-together ended, only for Ramsey to reply "Will you?" - Didn't Geoff Hurst say that?
Was he born in Tamworth. All the other things I've found say Sheffield. http://uk.encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_781528516/Banks_Gordon.html
Caps and goal figures in the article likely contain European cup/Domestic cup data in addition to Domestic League data (this is very certain based on this user's previous edits containing similar information [1]. Please correct this issue and leave a note here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alfmaster#Footballers.27_European_goals, to warn this person about putting improper information on Wikipedia. -- Palffy 21:12, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Chesterfield FC historian adds - to the best of my knowledge his dob is 20th December, and he was born in Sheffield.
Can somebody please explain (and rewrite) what a "5-4-3 record" is, please. Guinness ( talk) 13:00, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Excuse the accuser but wouldn't it make more sense to display clean sheets for a goalkeeper beside the appearances in the information box.After all they are not outfield players. To the uninitiated to see 0 goals beside people like Gordon banks would cause an inaccurate impression of his impact as a footballer. Debarpan18 ( talk) 18:40, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
I went to Telford for the Chelsea friendly on 6th May 1980. At the time Geoff Hurst was manager of Chelsea and Gordon Banks was manager of Telford United. I have no idea how long he was manager other than that he was defintely manager at the time. It was a big thing to see these two heroes of 66 shaking hands before the match.
I have googled it and found this: > England football legend Gordon Banks has revealed his sacking as manager of Telford United in 1980 was the reason why he did not manage again. The 1966 World Cup winner was boss at Telford from January 1979 to September 1980, but was sacked after just a season and a half. "They were good days for me, I thought I'd done a good job," Banks, now 73, told BBC Radio Shropshire. "They asked me to get them out of relegation, which I did do." He added: "Unfortunately we lost in a cup match, to a team lower down in the division away from home, and they gave me the big boot, which I was disappointed about." > Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_conf/8940802.stm
I won't update the main page, someone else can decide how to do that and where to insert this information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.217.237.195 ( talk) 23:44, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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Images check out. I took the liberty of categorising the new image on Commons. Miyagawa ( talk) 21:26, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
There are quiet a few duplicate links, I lost count somewhere around forty. User:Ucucha/duplinks is a good tool for spotting them.
Having a read through now and there's one recurring element which could be copyedited - where you've said "for a £xx fee" could just be "for £xx".
Lead: "He made one of the game's great saves" - I don't doubt it, but it needs to attributed to someone's opinion in order to avoid being considered original research.
Chesterfield: Might be worth not piping Tinsley, so that it reads Tinsley, South Yorkshire. Once that's done, there wouldn't be a need to mention that Catcliffe is also in South Yorkshire as it'll be presumed.
How much later did Banks' brother die? You say later, but was it shortly after or was he injured in a manner which caused his death years later? Best to clarify.
Regarding his debut for Millspaugh, was Banks at the match as a spectator? Just wondering how he was brought into the team. Might also be worthwhile saying that he continued to play for Millspaugh after being dropped by Rawmarsh (at least that's what I'm presuming happened).
"However the reserve team were placed in..." - I do this myself, there isn't a need for the However.
Link Royal Signals, and Busby Babes to Busby Babes rather than Matt Busby.
Who was surprised by the transfer to Leicester?
Leicester City: "who had already ran away with the First Division title with ease and style", a bit encyclopaedic - needs to just be something like "who had already won the First Division title". If you want to express how easy they won it, then you might want to say how many points they won it by - stats are bound to be at the RSSSF or the Football League websites.
"but then turned on the style with a 8–1 demolition" - just needs to be 8-1 defeat per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch.
Stoke City: As with the comment about the lead, the best saves point needs to be attributed to someone. Even if it's just the saves that Banks himself considers to be his best.
References: Ref #1 needs an access date and a creation date (well, update date).
What makes #66 a reliable source.
That seems to be it, they're all mostly just copyediting tweaks and so I'll put this on hold for seven days and then will review progress. Miyagawa ( talk) 12:26, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
I really can't recommend User:Ucucha/duplinks to add the Highlight duplicate links tool so that you can see these. Miyagawa ( talk) 14:08, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi
EchetusXe & thanks for your useful edit reasons. From personal experience I've learnt to accept unexceptional routine statements like the above from a
WP:BLP's own website -as I've found they can argue fairly persuasively that they are world authorities on themselves :) Even with eyesight problems, I would have expected GB to get the first line right. Whilst we may need to say that sources differ I think that's unlikely as I expect someone senior to Banks made a mistake & it got copied.
For comparison, I edited HMS Montagu some time ago having read
her story in the Ilfracombe museum. She ran aground off Lundy and two RN officers went to a nearby lighthouse and ordered the keeper to send a message that they had run aground off Hartland point! He was having none of it & the ensuing argument ended suddenly when he said "I know what bloody light I'm keeping" I expect this will be similar. I don't know if
Keith D has any additional Yorkshire knowledge. Regards
JRPG (
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23:57, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
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Gordan Banks died on 15th February 2019 following a 3 year battle with kidney cancer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.224.0.42 ( talk) 09:56, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
The 'Career statistics' section is rather underwhelming (as noted above several years ago). Goals scored by Banks (zero in every instance) are not exactly informative; surely it's the goals that he conceded that is the crucial statistic here? JezGrove ( talk) 10:17, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
This was something added to his honours section in 2012 seemingly without a source. Does anyone have any proof or source to show that this actually happened? I’ve looked everywhere and have failed to find proof of it whenever I’ve tried. The closest I’ve seen is him being the highest ranked goalkeeper in the Ballon d’Or twice (not even six) and don’t think a FIFA Goalkeeper of the Year award even existed for the years mentioned. I haven’t removed it as I could be wrong but yeah, does anyone have any proof that this is actually true and if so then add the source. 82.29.133.248 ( talk) 10:48, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
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Currently - "On 15 May 1971, Banks was involved in a notorious incident with George Best who, while playing against England for Northern Ireland, flicked the ball out of Banks's hands and headed it into the net.[125] The move was audacious, but was disallowed by the referee, who judged it to be dangerous play."
The goal was disallowed for the reason stated by the referee, but Banks had thrown the ball into the air with his hands to then kick it down field. Best famously kicked the ball whilst it was still in the air for that very short amount of time (he notably didn't actually kick the ball out of Bank's hands). The ball went bouncing high towards the goal and both players chased after it, Best heading it in.
Video of the incident - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D8IW_3_6D8 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.16.72.221 ( talk) 19:54, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
One source says December 20 was his birthday. Is this just rubbish/a typo?
one of his most famous stories tells of how he casually said "See you Alf!" to his England boss after one get-together ended, only for Ramsey to reply "Will you?" - Didn't Geoff Hurst say that?
Was he born in Tamworth. All the other things I've found say Sheffield. http://uk.encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_781528516/Banks_Gordon.html
Caps and goal figures in the article likely contain European cup/Domestic cup data in addition to Domestic League data (this is very certain based on this user's previous edits containing similar information [1]. Please correct this issue and leave a note here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alfmaster#Footballers.27_European_goals, to warn this person about putting improper information on Wikipedia. -- Palffy 21:12, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Chesterfield FC historian adds - to the best of my knowledge his dob is 20th December, and he was born in Sheffield.
Can somebody please explain (and rewrite) what a "5-4-3 record" is, please. Guinness ( talk) 13:00, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Excuse the accuser but wouldn't it make more sense to display clean sheets for a goalkeeper beside the appearances in the information box.After all they are not outfield players. To the uninitiated to see 0 goals beside people like Gordon banks would cause an inaccurate impression of his impact as a footballer. Debarpan18 ( talk) 18:40, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
I went to Telford for the Chelsea friendly on 6th May 1980. At the time Geoff Hurst was manager of Chelsea and Gordon Banks was manager of Telford United. I have no idea how long he was manager other than that he was defintely manager at the time. It was a big thing to see these two heroes of 66 shaking hands before the match.
I have googled it and found this: > England football legend Gordon Banks has revealed his sacking as manager of Telford United in 1980 was the reason why he did not manage again. The 1966 World Cup winner was boss at Telford from January 1979 to September 1980, but was sacked after just a season and a half. "They were good days for me, I thought I'd done a good job," Banks, now 73, told BBC Radio Shropshire. "They asked me to get them out of relegation, which I did do." He added: "Unfortunately we lost in a cup match, to a team lower down in the division away from home, and they gave me the big boot, which I was disappointed about." > Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_conf/8940802.stm
I won't update the main page, someone else can decide how to do that and where to insert this information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.217.237.195 ( talk) 23:44, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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I'll grab this one now for a review this evening. Miyagawa ( talk) 12:36, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Images check out. I took the liberty of categorising the new image on Commons. Miyagawa ( talk) 21:26, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
There are quiet a few duplicate links, I lost count somewhere around forty. User:Ucucha/duplinks is a good tool for spotting them.
Having a read through now and there's one recurring element which could be copyedited - where you've said "for a £xx fee" could just be "for £xx".
Lead: "He made one of the game's great saves" - I don't doubt it, but it needs to attributed to someone's opinion in order to avoid being considered original research.
Chesterfield: Might be worth not piping Tinsley, so that it reads Tinsley, South Yorkshire. Once that's done, there wouldn't be a need to mention that Catcliffe is also in South Yorkshire as it'll be presumed.
How much later did Banks' brother die? You say later, but was it shortly after or was he injured in a manner which caused his death years later? Best to clarify.
Regarding his debut for Millspaugh, was Banks at the match as a spectator? Just wondering how he was brought into the team. Might also be worthwhile saying that he continued to play for Millspaugh after being dropped by Rawmarsh (at least that's what I'm presuming happened).
"However the reserve team were placed in..." - I do this myself, there isn't a need for the However.
Link Royal Signals, and Busby Babes to Busby Babes rather than Matt Busby.
Who was surprised by the transfer to Leicester?
Leicester City: "who had already ran away with the First Division title with ease and style", a bit encyclopaedic - needs to just be something like "who had already won the First Division title". If you want to express how easy they won it, then you might want to say how many points they won it by - stats are bound to be at the RSSSF or the Football League websites.
"but then turned on the style with a 8–1 demolition" - just needs to be 8-1 defeat per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch.
Stoke City: As with the comment about the lead, the best saves point needs to be attributed to someone. Even if it's just the saves that Banks himself considers to be his best.
References: Ref #1 needs an access date and a creation date (well, update date).
What makes #66 a reliable source.
That seems to be it, they're all mostly just copyediting tweaks and so I'll put this on hold for seven days and then will review progress. Miyagawa ( talk) 12:26, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
I really can't recommend User:Ucucha/duplinks to add the Highlight duplicate links tool so that you can see these. Miyagawa ( talk) 14:08, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi
EchetusXe & thanks for your useful edit reasons. From personal experience I've learnt to accept unexceptional routine statements like the above from a
WP:BLP's own website -as I've found they can argue fairly persuasively that they are world authorities on themselves :) Even with eyesight problems, I would have expected GB to get the first line right. Whilst we may need to say that sources differ I think that's unlikely as I expect someone senior to Banks made a mistake & it got copied.
For comparison, I edited HMS Montagu some time ago having read
her story in the Ilfracombe museum. She ran aground off Lundy and two RN officers went to a nearby lighthouse and ordered the keeper to send a message that they had run aground off Hartland point! He was having none of it & the ensuing argument ended suddenly when he said "I know what bloody light I'm keeping" I expect this will be similar. I don't know if
Keith D has any additional Yorkshire knowledge. Regards
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Gordan Banks died on 15th February 2019 following a 3 year battle with kidney cancer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.224.0.42 ( talk) 09:56, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
The 'Career statistics' section is rather underwhelming (as noted above several years ago). Goals scored by Banks (zero in every instance) are not exactly informative; surely it's the goals that he conceded that is the crucial statistic here? JezGrove ( talk) 10:17, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
This was something added to his honours section in 2012 seemingly without a source. Does anyone have any proof or source to show that this actually happened? I’ve looked everywhere and have failed to find proof of it whenever I’ve tried. The closest I’ve seen is him being the highest ranked goalkeeper in the Ballon d’Or twice (not even six) and don’t think a FIFA Goalkeeper of the Year award even existed for the years mentioned. I haven’t removed it as I could be wrong but yeah, does anyone have any proof that this is actually true and if so then add the source. 82.29.133.248 ( talk) 10:48, 30 May 2023 (UTC)