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I know it's not just me who thinks this is getting a bit trivial now. The whole idea about wikipedia is having no point of view, i.e. not a soapbox. This is why me (and a couple of others) are attempting to preserve the integrity of this resource. This isn't our site, it's everybody's. TomiG 10:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Here from the RfC, tried to do a 3rd party NPOVing on the text (I assume the contentious bit). I'm partly curious why the local dispute is here - most towns (including citizens who are part of disputes) seem to want to keep their dirty laundry out of Wiki. I'm not certain that external links for either side would really be beneficial - this is Wikipedia & that sort of stuff would be more appropriate IMHO on Wikinews. OTOH, if you're gonna have one side, and the other side is a significant minority view, then it deserves it's link as well. Bridesmill 22:52, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Folks, making th elinks look like that & flopping them about looks peurile & does zero to represent Goole as having anything living there that you'd want to visit - more like 'let's stay the heck away from here' - remember the purpose of WP - & that is not to publicize the petty politics of every ville in the world - just what audience are you trying to raise this issue to??? Bridesmill 14:34, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Yes, both sides should be - but the BOLD comment on the one is a bit off-putting, and frankly the 'sucks' website IMHO adds not much - it doe not explain at all what is wrong with the development - I would suggest leaving it off until it is a bit more matured; right now it dfoes not look either like a 'significant minority' view, it looks more like a 2 or 3 pissed off folks view, which is not WP (This may not be so, but the website sure makes it look like that to this colonial). Bridesmill 16:04, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
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I'm assuming it's NoHiding who is putting this on - please put on only links whihc provide a 'value added' - this site does not even really appear to protest the development except in the site name, and only confuses outside visitors like me. If this is a 'widely held' view, please provide substantiation (major newspaper article which describes widespread dissent, for instance) Otherwise, other editors have option of raising issue with administrators. - You can't just change stuff without discussing it, and changes need consensus support and/or substantiation. Bridesmill 00:42, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
The link that you've just removed identifies the site as being in a flood plain. The link identifies the risk through the environment agency, it is there to raise awareness to potential occupiers that they are at risk of being flooded out. I hope that you can accept reponsibility if somebody is put at risk because you have not let them view information that concerns them. If a potential occupier knows the facts they can apply conditions to protect their facility ond their own security.
Why don't you just move on to the next subject, if these issues are addressed in due course there is no reason why the wiki cannot be ammended. It is not a static piece of work Nohiding4u 10:26, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
OK, so now that I've read up a bit more; firstly, protest against this development is undetectable on Google - only some small mention on gatewaygoole (perpelxed that this is not on the protest website - which speaks to its lack of completeness). Secondly, you mention the significance of floodplain - but all of Goole is on a floodplain, so there is zero news in saying this is a floodplain, unless you are protesting all development, in which case this is not a Goole topic but an anti-development topic. Unless you can provide some evidence that this is more than just a few pissed off individuals, I would suggest that this falls into the realm of 'non-notable'. Bridesmill 17:11, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I have removed the following from the lead as it is not sourced. If it can be sourced correctly then return it to the article but not to the lead which is for a summary of the rest of the article.
, which achieved notoriety two years ago for having the highest proportion of drug-related deaths in Britain - 13 times the national average. Although only 2 per cent of the population of the county lives there, the town is home to 12 per cent of the region's heroin users
Keith D 21:16, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
It is now cited via The Observer online newspaper, sorry but the article did happen and it was reported on by our own Goole Times and Courier, I have put the comments back on because sadly people have to be aware that the town is a dangerous place with a very serious drug problem. Keith if you want you can place the comment in a new heading lower down called Concerns for Goole or Goole's Problems or something like that, but it needs to be in there to not mislead people about the town. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.84.100.6 ( talk) 16:51, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I removed this claim. It ought to be fairly self-evident that the statement is untrue, but just to prove it: Iquitos on the Amazon is over 2,000 miles from the sea. Somehow I don't think Goole can beat that! Whether or not it's the furthest inland in Britain is another question: Gloucester and Selby might argue, and I suppose it depends on how you define "furthest inland". Either way, such a statement should not go back in without a solid reference (not a vague term like "is widely recognised to be"). 86.136.251.18 00:31, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi,
In response to the edits regarding the addition of 'Britain/East Coast Premier Port' in the first sentence, I'll open a discussion here. I don't think that
is a particularly brilliant way to start an article. I am also unsure whether the source is particularly reliable. [1]. It seems like a biased point of view to me, and one previous editor has already removed (Britain's Premier Port) citing "unnecessary marketing speak". If notability of Goole's status as a UK port is required, may I suggest:
The above still doesn't feel quite right, but it is an idea for discussion. – MDCollins ( talk) 00:03, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
MDCollins put whatever you feel fit, it is Goole's only claim to fame and should be in the article somewhere. I shall leave it to you to decide where. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kewstu ( talk • contribs) 21:47, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
References
Just tried to embelish the page a little, added some detail and new images. The page could do with some more sources, inparticularly with regards to often contencious subjects such as governance and history. I will try and see to this when I have time. Mtaylor848 ( talk) 19:20, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Could someone please tell me what this actually means? Thanks, MrTranscript ( talk) 21:09, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Due to excessive numbers of external links - most of which fail WP:EXT - I have today implemented the DMOZ solution that has been implemented on other such articles, including Fowey and Tenby, by: (1) Removing all but official and WikiTravel links, (2) adding the link to DMOZ, where you can add your link and get a backlink credit. Rgds, -- Trident13 ( talk) 12:18, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
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It seems odd that the Goole wiki doesn't mention the 1915 German Zeppelin Raid. It's probably the most significant event in Goole's history. I've never edited a wiki page so I thought I'd just bring it up here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.146.196.131 ( talk) 00:24, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-33840606
https://sites.google.com/site/thegooleexperience/goole-at-war — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.191.216.137 ( talk) 16:48, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
You mention a new village called "Goole" created in the 17th century. But you give a date of 1362 for the earliest mention. Valetude ( talk) 11:20, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
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I know it's not just me who thinks this is getting a bit trivial now. The whole idea about wikipedia is having no point of view, i.e. not a soapbox. This is why me (and a couple of others) are attempting to preserve the integrity of this resource. This isn't our site, it's everybody's. TomiG 10:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Here from the RfC, tried to do a 3rd party NPOVing on the text (I assume the contentious bit). I'm partly curious why the local dispute is here - most towns (including citizens who are part of disputes) seem to want to keep their dirty laundry out of Wiki. I'm not certain that external links for either side would really be beneficial - this is Wikipedia & that sort of stuff would be more appropriate IMHO on Wikinews. OTOH, if you're gonna have one side, and the other side is a significant minority view, then it deserves it's link as well. Bridesmill 22:52, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Folks, making th elinks look like that & flopping them about looks peurile & does zero to represent Goole as having anything living there that you'd want to visit - more like 'let's stay the heck away from here' - remember the purpose of WP - & that is not to publicize the petty politics of every ville in the world - just what audience are you trying to raise this issue to??? Bridesmill 14:34, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Yes, both sides should be - but the BOLD comment on the one is a bit off-putting, and frankly the 'sucks' website IMHO adds not much - it doe not explain at all what is wrong with the development - I would suggest leaving it off until it is a bit more matured; right now it dfoes not look either like a 'significant minority' view, it looks more like a 2 or 3 pissed off folks view, which is not WP (This may not be so, but the website sure makes it look like that to this colonial). Bridesmill 16:04, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
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I'm assuming it's NoHiding who is putting this on - please put on only links whihc provide a 'value added' - this site does not even really appear to protest the development except in the site name, and only confuses outside visitors like me. If this is a 'widely held' view, please provide substantiation (major newspaper article which describes widespread dissent, for instance) Otherwise, other editors have option of raising issue with administrators. - You can't just change stuff without discussing it, and changes need consensus support and/or substantiation. Bridesmill 00:42, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
The link that you've just removed identifies the site as being in a flood plain. The link identifies the risk through the environment agency, it is there to raise awareness to potential occupiers that they are at risk of being flooded out. I hope that you can accept reponsibility if somebody is put at risk because you have not let them view information that concerns them. If a potential occupier knows the facts they can apply conditions to protect their facility ond their own security.
Why don't you just move on to the next subject, if these issues are addressed in due course there is no reason why the wiki cannot be ammended. It is not a static piece of work Nohiding4u 10:26, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
OK, so now that I've read up a bit more; firstly, protest against this development is undetectable on Google - only some small mention on gatewaygoole (perpelxed that this is not on the protest website - which speaks to its lack of completeness). Secondly, you mention the significance of floodplain - but all of Goole is on a floodplain, so there is zero news in saying this is a floodplain, unless you are protesting all development, in which case this is not a Goole topic but an anti-development topic. Unless you can provide some evidence that this is more than just a few pissed off individuals, I would suggest that this falls into the realm of 'non-notable'. Bridesmill 17:11, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I have removed the following from the lead as it is not sourced. If it can be sourced correctly then return it to the article but not to the lead which is for a summary of the rest of the article.
, which achieved notoriety two years ago for having the highest proportion of drug-related deaths in Britain - 13 times the national average. Although only 2 per cent of the population of the county lives there, the town is home to 12 per cent of the region's heroin users
Keith D 21:16, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
It is now cited via The Observer online newspaper, sorry but the article did happen and it was reported on by our own Goole Times and Courier, I have put the comments back on because sadly people have to be aware that the town is a dangerous place with a very serious drug problem. Keith if you want you can place the comment in a new heading lower down called Concerns for Goole or Goole's Problems or something like that, but it needs to be in there to not mislead people about the town. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.84.100.6 ( talk) 16:51, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I removed this claim. It ought to be fairly self-evident that the statement is untrue, but just to prove it: Iquitos on the Amazon is over 2,000 miles from the sea. Somehow I don't think Goole can beat that! Whether or not it's the furthest inland in Britain is another question: Gloucester and Selby might argue, and I suppose it depends on how you define "furthest inland". Either way, such a statement should not go back in without a solid reference (not a vague term like "is widely recognised to be"). 86.136.251.18 00:31, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi,
In response to the edits regarding the addition of 'Britain/East Coast Premier Port' in the first sentence, I'll open a discussion here. I don't think that
is a particularly brilliant way to start an article. I am also unsure whether the source is particularly reliable. [1]. It seems like a biased point of view to me, and one previous editor has already removed (Britain's Premier Port) citing "unnecessary marketing speak". If notability of Goole's status as a UK port is required, may I suggest:
The above still doesn't feel quite right, but it is an idea for discussion. – MDCollins ( talk) 00:03, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
MDCollins put whatever you feel fit, it is Goole's only claim to fame and should be in the article somewhere. I shall leave it to you to decide where. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kewstu ( talk • contribs) 21:47, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
References
Just tried to embelish the page a little, added some detail and new images. The page could do with some more sources, inparticularly with regards to often contencious subjects such as governance and history. I will try and see to this when I have time. Mtaylor848 ( talk) 19:20, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Could someone please tell me what this actually means? Thanks, MrTranscript ( talk) 21:09, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Due to excessive numbers of external links - most of which fail WP:EXT - I have today implemented the DMOZ solution that has been implemented on other such articles, including Fowey and Tenby, by: (1) Removing all but official and WikiTravel links, (2) adding the link to DMOZ, where you can add your link and get a backlink credit. Rgds, -- Trident13 ( talk) 12:18, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
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It seems odd that the Goole wiki doesn't mention the 1915 German Zeppelin Raid. It's probably the most significant event in Goole's history. I've never edited a wiki page so I thought I'd just bring it up here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.146.196.131 ( talk) 00:24, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-33840606
https://sites.google.com/site/thegooleexperience/goole-at-war — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.191.216.137 ( talk) 16:48, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
You mention a new village called "Goole" created in the 17th century. But you give a date of 1362 for the earliest mention. Valetude ( talk) 11:20, 10 March 2019 (UTC)