"fellow rappers Cam'ron and Consequence" → fellow American rappers Cam'ron and Consequence
Not done writing "fellow rappers" without mentioning a separately nationality after an American rapper implies they are too --
K. Peake09:45, 14 April 2022 (UTC)reply
That would read repetitively and it seems quite obvious that any nationalities would be mentioned if they are not American. --
K. Peake16:55, 14 April 2022 (UTC)reply
"A hip hop track, it contains samples of Otis Redding's version of "It's Too Late". → The hip hop track contains samples of Otis Redding's version of "It's Too Late" (1965).
Not done this would be inconsistent with usage of "the song" in the lead; "a hip hop track" is only written because that's what it says in the body. --
K. Peake09:45, 14 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Remove the image of Jon Brion. Brion's text image is already added to the body of this section and it's more like a "fun fact", than something relevant or vital to the article.
"Record producer and composer Jon Brion" → American record producer and composer Jon Brion
"The pair became connected via their mutual friend Rick Rubin" → The pair became connected via their mutual friend, and American record producer, Rick Rubin
The latter is the last one mentioned, which in this situation is Brion. How can one be confused? On top of that is trying to avoid repetitive vocabularies, "The producer recalled West taking charge of production"...
MarioSoulTruthFan (
talk)
13:18, 14 April 2022 (UTC)reply
"Chuck Willis, the third of which received credit" → shouldn't it be the fourth?
Done
Composition and lyrics
Flawless
Release and reception
Change title to Critical reception
""Gone" was released as the nineteenth track on West's second studio album Late Registration on August 28, 2005, standing as the last track before any bonuses." → remove, not relevant information for the article.
Not done for the above, releases on albums can be written out for sourcing the infobox dates and a bonus is notable. --
K. Peake09:45, 14 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Wouldn't this be confusing, as the song's debut was powered by the viral video that is not relevant until media usage? --
K. Peake16:55, 14 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Maybe a subsection here? If it after the other usage it would make sense. The charts are not other usage or anything like that, henceforth that sentence.
MarioSoulTruthFan (
talk)
19:08, 14 April 2022 (UTC)reply
An idea for the first sentence as the songs' chart entry was due to the viral video → "Following Shifrin's viral YouTube video, counting towards 6.2 million streams..." or something in this vein.
Done
Credits and personnel
Fine
Charts
Fine
References
cokemachineglow → Cokemachineglow
Done
External links
Fine
Overall
Good job providing source that makes this article pass WP:NSongs.
So I have checked everything, I'm just on the fence regarding one last thing. In the lead, "...caused the song to enter charts in the United States, debuting at..." Should United States be removed as the song also entered the French charts around the same time? Its not worth mentioning the SNEP peak. But perhaps remove the United States not to give the wrong idea? Let me know you thoughts.
MarioSoulTruthFan (
talk)
11:13, 15 April 2022 (UTC)reply
That is a valid point; I have reworded the lead to not imply the song only charted in the US while mentioning the region of the charts. --
K. Peake15:31, 15 April 2022 (UTC)reply
"fellow rappers Cam'ron and Consequence" → fellow American rappers Cam'ron and Consequence
Not done writing "fellow rappers" without mentioning a separately nationality after an American rapper implies they are too --
K. Peake09:45, 14 April 2022 (UTC)reply
That would read repetitively and it seems quite obvious that any nationalities would be mentioned if they are not American. --
K. Peake16:55, 14 April 2022 (UTC)reply
"A hip hop track, it contains samples of Otis Redding's version of "It's Too Late". → The hip hop track contains samples of Otis Redding's version of "It's Too Late" (1965).
Not done this would be inconsistent with usage of "the song" in the lead; "a hip hop track" is only written because that's what it says in the body. --
K. Peake09:45, 14 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Remove the image of Jon Brion. Brion's text image is already added to the body of this section and it's more like a "fun fact", than something relevant or vital to the article.
"Record producer and composer Jon Brion" → American record producer and composer Jon Brion
"The pair became connected via their mutual friend Rick Rubin" → The pair became connected via their mutual friend, and American record producer, Rick Rubin
The latter is the last one mentioned, which in this situation is Brion. How can one be confused? On top of that is trying to avoid repetitive vocabularies, "The producer recalled West taking charge of production"...
MarioSoulTruthFan (
talk)
13:18, 14 April 2022 (UTC)reply
"Chuck Willis, the third of which received credit" → shouldn't it be the fourth?
Done
Composition and lyrics
Flawless
Release and reception
Change title to Critical reception
""Gone" was released as the nineteenth track on West's second studio album Late Registration on August 28, 2005, standing as the last track before any bonuses." → remove, not relevant information for the article.
Not done for the above, releases on albums can be written out for sourcing the infobox dates and a bonus is notable. --
K. Peake09:45, 14 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Wouldn't this be confusing, as the song's debut was powered by the viral video that is not relevant until media usage? --
K. Peake16:55, 14 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Maybe a subsection here? If it after the other usage it would make sense. The charts are not other usage or anything like that, henceforth that sentence.
MarioSoulTruthFan (
talk)
19:08, 14 April 2022 (UTC)reply
An idea for the first sentence as the songs' chart entry was due to the viral video → "Following Shifrin's viral YouTube video, counting towards 6.2 million streams..." or something in this vein.
Done
Credits and personnel
Fine
Charts
Fine
References
cokemachineglow → Cokemachineglow
Done
External links
Fine
Overall
Good job providing source that makes this article pass WP:NSongs.
So I have checked everything, I'm just on the fence regarding one last thing. In the lead, "...caused the song to enter charts in the United States, debuting at..." Should United States be removed as the song also entered the French charts around the same time? Its not worth mentioning the SNEP peak. But perhaps remove the United States not to give the wrong idea? Let me know you thoughts.
MarioSoulTruthFan (
talk)
11:13, 15 April 2022 (UTC)reply
That is a valid point; I have reworded the lead to not imply the song only charted in the US while mentioning the region of the charts. --
K. Peake15:31, 15 April 2022 (UTC)reply