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"Texians" was the original word for people from Texas, but other people found it hard to pronounce and they changed it to "Texans." I think the change happened when Texas joined the US, and other states could not pronounce the word, but I'm not sure.
Cloudbreath9 (
talk) 23:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)reply
Names of those massacred at Goliad
Is there a list of the men who were captured and killed? A link to it would be helpful even if for some reason the list could not be here. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
98.16.29.209 (
talk) 17:10, 5 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Outline for revamp
My ideas of how to reorganize the article; other input welcome.
Karanacs (
talk) 21:47, 12 June 2015 (UTC)reply
Background
1835 - Santa Anna turned Centralist, revoked the Const of 1824, revolts inside Mexico put down brutally, Texians kicked out the soldiers
1836 -
Santa Anna begins gathering troops for his Army. Tornel Decree.
Matamoros Expedition meant troops under Grant and Johnson. Fannin's role. Texas government functionally shut down. Rumors of Mexican troops on the way ignored.
Tons of people from the US flocking to Texas to fight - no horse in this race
Importance of the coast - supplies, easier to communicate with Mexican interior, etc.
many centralist supporters along the Gulf Coast - San Patricio Irish Catholics, large Tejano population in Refugio and Goliad
Prelude
Houston manages to dissuade most of the Matamoros guys and they join up with Fannin
Grant and Johnson take the rest of their volunteers into Tamaulipas to look for horses
Urrea crosses over on Feb 18; Urrea has convinced the federalists in Matamoros not to support the Texians and double agents tell Grant and Johnson that the revolt is still on
neutralize Matamoros Expedition
Battle of San Patricio
Battle of Agua Dulce
Refugio
Citizens want to leave - Lewis Ayers begs Fannin for help
Fannin sends King and then Ward to Refugio to help, they are stupid
Battle of Refugio
Coleto
Fannin delays delays delays
Finally tries to leave, poor planning, poor decision making
Caught on a field, battle of Coleto
differing intepretations of surrender terms
marched back to Goliad
Massacre
Other people taken prisoner at Copano and marched to Goliad
Urrea doesn't want to kill them all
Santa Anna orders otherwise
some spared, some escape, everyone else killed
Aftermath
Urrea was the only Mexican general to win; did not want to retreat after San Jacinto
Santa Anna faced a tribunal over the massacre and the Alamo
Tornel decree rescinded when massacre news reached Mexico
huge outpouring of criticism everywhere - convinced more Americans to come fight in Texas
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"Texians" was the original word for people from Texas, but other people found it hard to pronounce and they changed it to "Texans." I think the change happened when Texas joined the US, and other states could not pronounce the word, but I'm not sure.
Cloudbreath9 (
talk) 23:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)reply
Names of those massacred at Goliad
Is there a list of the men who were captured and killed? A link to it would be helpful even if for some reason the list could not be here. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
98.16.29.209 (
talk) 17:10, 5 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Outline for revamp
My ideas of how to reorganize the article; other input welcome.
Karanacs (
talk) 21:47, 12 June 2015 (UTC)reply
Background
1835 - Santa Anna turned Centralist, revoked the Const of 1824, revolts inside Mexico put down brutally, Texians kicked out the soldiers
1836 -
Santa Anna begins gathering troops for his Army. Tornel Decree.
Matamoros Expedition meant troops under Grant and Johnson. Fannin's role. Texas government functionally shut down. Rumors of Mexican troops on the way ignored.
Tons of people from the US flocking to Texas to fight - no horse in this race
Importance of the coast - supplies, easier to communicate with Mexican interior, etc.
many centralist supporters along the Gulf Coast - San Patricio Irish Catholics, large Tejano population in Refugio and Goliad
Prelude
Houston manages to dissuade most of the Matamoros guys and they join up with Fannin
Grant and Johnson take the rest of their volunteers into Tamaulipas to look for horses
Urrea crosses over on Feb 18; Urrea has convinced the federalists in Matamoros not to support the Texians and double agents tell Grant and Johnson that the revolt is still on
neutralize Matamoros Expedition
Battle of San Patricio
Battle of Agua Dulce
Refugio
Citizens want to leave - Lewis Ayers begs Fannin for help
Fannin sends King and then Ward to Refugio to help, they are stupid
Battle of Refugio
Coleto
Fannin delays delays delays
Finally tries to leave, poor planning, poor decision making
Caught on a field, battle of Coleto
differing intepretations of surrender terms
marched back to Goliad
Massacre
Other people taken prisoner at Copano and marched to Goliad
Urrea doesn't want to kill them all
Santa Anna orders otherwise
some spared, some escape, everyone else killed
Aftermath
Urrea was the only Mexican general to win; did not want to retreat after San Jacinto
Santa Anna faced a tribunal over the massacre and the Alamo
Tornel decree rescinded when massacre news reached Mexico
huge outpouring of criticism everywhere - convinced more Americans to come fight in Texas