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Huh... Am I the only one who things the article should mention the route of the train? --
79.211.215.168 (
talk) 11:21, 28 September 2008 (UTC)reply
Riding the rails
Can somebody explain "granger"? The dab page the link goes to is no help at all, because it doesn't even mention a railway term...
TREKphilerany time you're ready, Uhura 19:22, 15 August 2011 (UTC)reply
From the article:
The Golden State route had the disadvantage of having a weak connecting and somewhat over-extended granger line (the Rock Island) serving farmland shippers, combined with the prosperous (and dominant) Southern Pacific who also had the Overland Route from San Francisco to Chicago as almost direct competition.
by which is meant the Rock Island line, a nickname for the
Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific Railroad. The Rock Island term is explained in the first sentence of this article. A definition for
granger can be found on wiktionary, meaning a member of a
Grange (or
the Grange), in turn, meaning rural or agricultural. Is that sufficient? It might be noted that both the Rock Island route and the
Overland Route went through rural areas between Chicago and California, but the sentence implies that the Overland Route had service to larger cities and trains were able to travel faster upon it, since they would not have to contend with short segments of heavily switched single track and interference with agricultural crop freight trains upon them.
Pedro Xing (
talk) 05:58, 21 December 2012 (UTC)reply
Cleanup
I had tagged the article for extensive cleanup. Here's why:
The article contains too much information (highest points of other rail lines, roster facts, rail line histories, etc)
Too many short paragraphs, less generalization
Non-constructive listing of the train's length in terms of time and distance, the train's consist, and schedule
Minor details such as the fonts, pro/con details, other railroads' "brands" (like the passenger car series of ATSF and NYC)
I have removed these tags, since they're ten years old. Feel free to reapply any that you still feel are relevant (with updated reasoning),
User:Ctempire.
CapnZapp (
talk) 13:30, 19 August 2023 (UTC)reply
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U.S. state of California on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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This article is within the scope of WikiProject Trains, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to
rail transport on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can visit the
project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the
discussion. See also:
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Trains Portal.TrainsWikipedia:WikiProject TrainsTemplate:WikiProject Trainsrail transport articles
Huh... Am I the only one who things the article should mention the route of the train? --
79.211.215.168 (
talk) 11:21, 28 September 2008 (UTC)reply
Riding the rails
Can somebody explain "granger"? The dab page the link goes to is no help at all, because it doesn't even mention a railway term...
TREKphilerany time you're ready, Uhura 19:22, 15 August 2011 (UTC)reply
From the article:
The Golden State route had the disadvantage of having a weak connecting and somewhat over-extended granger line (the Rock Island) serving farmland shippers, combined with the prosperous (and dominant) Southern Pacific who also had the Overland Route from San Francisco to Chicago as almost direct competition.
by which is meant the Rock Island line, a nickname for the
Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific Railroad. The Rock Island term is explained in the first sentence of this article. A definition for
granger can be found on wiktionary, meaning a member of a
Grange (or
the Grange), in turn, meaning rural or agricultural. Is that sufficient? It might be noted that both the Rock Island route and the
Overland Route went through rural areas between Chicago and California, but the sentence implies that the Overland Route had service to larger cities and trains were able to travel faster upon it, since they would not have to contend with short segments of heavily switched single track and interference with agricultural crop freight trains upon them.
Pedro Xing (
talk) 05:58, 21 December 2012 (UTC)reply
Cleanup
I had tagged the article for extensive cleanup. Here's why:
The article contains too much information (highest points of other rail lines, roster facts, rail line histories, etc)
Too many short paragraphs, less generalization
Non-constructive listing of the train's length in terms of time and distance, the train's consist, and schedule
Minor details such as the fonts, pro/con details, other railroads' "brands" (like the passenger car series of ATSF and NYC)
I have removed these tags, since they're ten years old. Feel free to reapply any that you still feel are relevant (with updated reasoning),
User:Ctempire.
CapnZapp (
talk) 13:30, 19 August 2023 (UTC)reply