While the biographies of living persons policy does not apply directly to the subject of this article, it may contain material that relates to living persons, such as friends and family of persons no longer living, or living persons involved in the subject matter. Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons must be removed immediately. If such material is re-inserted repeatedly, or if there are other concerns related to this policy, please see this noticeboard. |
This article is rated Stub-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Yes, I know that Old Gold Mountain did, at times, reference other places, however Wikipedia's leading sentences usually indicate both primary contemporary and historical usage. Labeling the phrase to mean North America's West Coast is very misleading, this is exclusively historical and uncommon. The only contemporary (and most common usage) is exclusively referring to San Francisco. No Chinese, especially Mainland or Taiwanese, would ever say "我要去舊金山" and think that means, Los Angeles or Vancouver. Especially because of the size, density and population of Chinese in Chinatown and the San Francisco Bay Area, basically the hub of Chinese in the West, it only makes sense. Yes, other places had nicknames as well, but they're not in official use today (for example 新金山 for Australia, however its not longer used or known because the population wasn't as big as San Francisco's). Old Gold Mountain for San Francisco is still used commonly at airports, official documents, dictionaries and common speech. Saying it means North America's West Coast is misleading. Perhaps it was occasionally used historically, however Wikipedia is ambiguous, it doesn't refer to currently used phrases in past-tense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:644:301:155D:51B4:8E44:966F:A5DF ( talk) 16:54, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
And someone change that title with the subtext: "Chinese name for Western North America." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:644:301:155D:51B4:8E44:966F:A5DF ( talk) 17:16, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
This article states that 舊金山 (Old Gold Mountain) is used to refer to all of California, but it actually specifically refers to San Francisco. I've never heard anyone call California 舊金山 except maybe in a historical sense. I don't have anything to cite, except if you go to the Taipei Taoyuan International Airport (aka Chiang Kai-Shek International Airport) website [1] and look at the To or From cities, the fifth from the bottom is 舊金山 and the flights listed are for San Francisco. I guess before I edit I'd rather have a better citation than that. Nothingedifying 05:08, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
It does not refer to Vancouver or British Columbia. Maybe historically, but not in current usage, or in current documents nor hanzi-pinyin dictionaries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:644:301:155D:51B4:8E44:966F:A5DF ( talk) 17:18, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
Shouldn't "Mountain" in the title be lowercase? It is not a name for a place anymore but rather an expression. -- Voidvector ( talk) 05:35, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
I know there's a Wikipedia guideline mandating the use of Mandarin forms of Chinese names, esp. in titles like that for Taishan. But Taishan - Toishan as I know it from Vancouver's history - is in China; Gold Mountain was not and in North American accounts of its usage it's always "Gumshan" or "Gum shan", which I gather is the Cantonese version; and it's a given that the bulk of gold rush-era Chinese were Cantonese-speaking (not sure about those from Taiwan, though....); Obviously it was me who put Gumshan and Gum shan in the lead, but I must say I was a bit stunned to see it was omitted. Was this ever a common term in Mandarin?. In any case, it's about the pioneer-era Chinese experience in North America and should reflect the language used by those pioneers; as noted "Gum shan" is how this term is most commonly rendered in English; I'm at a loss to understand why it was considered not important enough to include..... Skookum1 ( talk) 15:43, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Why is this project listed in the Biography project?? Aristophanes68 ( talk) 22:29, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Gold Mountain (Chinese name for part of North America). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 19:45, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
While the biographies of living persons policy does not apply directly to the subject of this article, it may contain material that relates to living persons, such as friends and family of persons no longer living, or living persons involved in the subject matter. Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons must be removed immediately. If such material is re-inserted repeatedly, or if there are other concerns related to this policy, please see this noticeboard. |
This article is rated Stub-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Yes, I know that Old Gold Mountain did, at times, reference other places, however Wikipedia's leading sentences usually indicate both primary contemporary and historical usage. Labeling the phrase to mean North America's West Coast is very misleading, this is exclusively historical and uncommon. The only contemporary (and most common usage) is exclusively referring to San Francisco. No Chinese, especially Mainland or Taiwanese, would ever say "我要去舊金山" and think that means, Los Angeles or Vancouver. Especially because of the size, density and population of Chinese in Chinatown and the San Francisco Bay Area, basically the hub of Chinese in the West, it only makes sense. Yes, other places had nicknames as well, but they're not in official use today (for example 新金山 for Australia, however its not longer used or known because the population wasn't as big as San Francisco's). Old Gold Mountain for San Francisco is still used commonly at airports, official documents, dictionaries and common speech. Saying it means North America's West Coast is misleading. Perhaps it was occasionally used historically, however Wikipedia is ambiguous, it doesn't refer to currently used phrases in past-tense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:644:301:155D:51B4:8E44:966F:A5DF ( talk) 16:54, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
And someone change that title with the subtext: "Chinese name for Western North America." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:644:301:155D:51B4:8E44:966F:A5DF ( talk) 17:16, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
This article states that 舊金山 (Old Gold Mountain) is used to refer to all of California, but it actually specifically refers to San Francisco. I've never heard anyone call California 舊金山 except maybe in a historical sense. I don't have anything to cite, except if you go to the Taipei Taoyuan International Airport (aka Chiang Kai-Shek International Airport) website [1] and look at the To or From cities, the fifth from the bottom is 舊金山 and the flights listed are for San Francisco. I guess before I edit I'd rather have a better citation than that. Nothingedifying 05:08, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
It does not refer to Vancouver or British Columbia. Maybe historically, but not in current usage, or in current documents nor hanzi-pinyin dictionaries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:644:301:155D:51B4:8E44:966F:A5DF ( talk) 17:18, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
Shouldn't "Mountain" in the title be lowercase? It is not a name for a place anymore but rather an expression. -- Voidvector ( talk) 05:35, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
I know there's a Wikipedia guideline mandating the use of Mandarin forms of Chinese names, esp. in titles like that for Taishan. But Taishan - Toishan as I know it from Vancouver's history - is in China; Gold Mountain was not and in North American accounts of its usage it's always "Gumshan" or "Gum shan", which I gather is the Cantonese version; and it's a given that the bulk of gold rush-era Chinese were Cantonese-speaking (not sure about those from Taiwan, though....); Obviously it was me who put Gumshan and Gum shan in the lead, but I must say I was a bit stunned to see it was omitted. Was this ever a common term in Mandarin?. In any case, it's about the pioneer-era Chinese experience in North America and should reflect the language used by those pioneers; as noted "Gum shan" is how this term is most commonly rendered in English; I'm at a loss to understand why it was considered not important enough to include..... Skookum1 ( talk) 15:43, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Why is this project listed in the Biography project?? Aristophanes68 ( talk) 22:29, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Gold Mountain (Chinese name for part of North America). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 19:45, 2 January 2018 (UTC)